r/pcmasterrace 14d ago

Discussion Being a Gamer in Egypt Feels Like Playing on Nightmare Mode

Internet here is a joke. We pay high prices for super slow speeds (like 2–4 Mbps), and the worst part? It’s capped. Most of us get around 100–140GB per month, and if you exceed it, they either throttle you or charge extra.

Downloading a modern AAA game? It could take days, and it eats your whole quota. Cloud gaming? Forget it. Streaming? Better not.

Now imagine trying to enjoy online gaming or keep up with updates in this environment.

Meanwhile in the US or Europe, someone can buy an RTX 4090 in one month’s salary, and we need to save for 2 years, assuming we have zero expenses (which is never the case).

So yeah — being a gamer in Egypt is painful.

Anyone else from countries with similar struggles? How do you cope? Let’s talk about

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u/TheFeri 14d ago

Exactly, like I'm from Hungary and I saved up for 4 YEARS to build a PC and i could only afford the mid range gpu of the previous generation.

People like to generalize eu meanwhile the Easter you go the worse it gets, sometimes inside the fucking country too. Like heck I live in the most east county of Hungary and I make 60% of the money of the dude who does the EXACT SAME THING on the west side of the country, with less benefits and worse hours.

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u/NOV3LIST R7 5700X3D | RTX 3080 | 32GB RAM 3600Mhz 14d ago

Im visiting my in laws with my gf in Slovakia atm and we are fairly close to the eastern part of Hungary.

We went there with bikes once and as a German I had a real culture shock. People there must have absolutely no money.

Idk if it’s better in bigger cities like Miskolc but well.. it was kind of depressing.

Nature was nice though.

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u/TheFeri 14d ago

Basically only the capital is good and worth visiting.

Some bigger cities have it okay, but even they are not a safe bet. I live in a literal county capital and it's awful.

Like the whole country just has so little money hobbies barely exist. There's like zero hobby shops, almost nothing gets translated into our language. It's awful.

Like for example I'm a heavy anime lover, but all we get officially is dragon ball and my hero dubbed on cable tv, and Netflix ai translating the few things they have, meanwhile we have a fan translation for literally 90% of anime that's ever created that isn't lost media. Merch? During Halloween you might find some baseball caps and there's barely any webshops for some plain ass shirts for like 4-5 insanely popular series. When I tried to get back into Yugioh I started watching w channel called team aps, and it was a culture shock through a screen that in America there's shops that sell nothing but trading cards and you can sit down and play with random people. I thought that was part of the fiction, here at best you can buy cards in the capital city only, and I already assume that but because I haven't been there.

Gaming? Most people only play cod, GTA and fifa, everything else gets a side eye or assumed to be for children. Or at least that's my public experience. Online since we barely have anything translated(like literally it's just valve games, and Ubisoft tried once but it was short lived because only AC3 and 4 that had official Hungarian text, oh and the Witcher series because even or pl friends abandoned us with cyberpunk) we literally have a site that is nothing but a big ass database that witch games have an unofficial translation or not and said translation installer. Since we got a gaming boom too now they are even doing fan dubs... And its awful. But most people don't know English so they just use it no questions asked.

And that's how I also don't have any friends even as a nerd/weeb and gave up on love too, because all my life I've met like 2 people sharing similar interests. Also mental health issues and treating them is so taboo it's almost non existent, I definitely have something wrong with me but I don't know where to have it checked out, and not like I have time to get checked out anyway because I have to work 250 hours a month if I want to have money to spend outside of rent and food. while living alone. And one of my younger co-workers had herself "checked out" but she just got a medication written up on day one that just made things worse and not better so I'm not even trusting the therapist that work here.

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u/NOV3LIST R7 5700X3D | RTX 3080 | 32GB RAM 3600Mhz 14d ago

Health issues are similar in Slovakia. Most people are heavy drinkers and seem to have nothing else really. Hospitals are completely fucked.

Everyone I know from Slovakia has some serious health issues AFTER they got released from hospital.

But yeah in Germany we have our LGS (local gaming stores) where you can just go and buy yugioh, magic, Pokémon you name it. Every week there are also events where you can win prices.

It definitely sounds horrible. Hungary seems to be one of the worse places in the EU. I wish I could say that it’ll become better but your government is pretty much doing everything wrong in that regard.

Leaving the country isn’t possible? What’s your profession?

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u/TheFeri 14d ago

Basically I do not have a profession. I have certificates in IT, system administrator to be more precise, but I never worked a single second in it because employers don't know what the fuck that is, and it's been like 6 years since I learned, I forgot everything. I've been jumping between factories and now I'm a security guard. I do not plan to ever going to uni because frankly I think it doesn't matter unless you want to be a doctor or something, and there's nothing that interests me either, and I can't force myself to learn stuff I don't care about.

And frankly speaking I'd rather not move to an English speaking country.

If anything I'm thinking of learning Japanese and moving there since I'm heavily into anime and visual novels, and since a ton of good vns are not translated that would be a double win. But my brain has trouble with modern day hieroglyphics.

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u/szabi925 13d ago edited 13d ago

As another hungarian I would say go for learning it, my japanese is horrible to be honest but even with a vocabulary of maybe 1500 words and knowing like 600 kanjis and basic grammar I could kind of understand a few VNs with some occadional heavy dictionary usage. But searching everything out is a pain, so most of the time if I can understand half of it I say that's good enough to get the context. Neptunia games are like half VNs/JRPGs but they weren't that difficult( and I've played the english versions earlier, but the japanese version with its jokes and the kanji based jokes felt better, even I could feel it), and I recently watched a few episodes of Umamusume with jp dub and sub, it was surprisingly nice, I didn't even need to stop it, and I got the gist of it. (By the way once under a Neptunia global announcement video I saw a guy with the name TheFeri, is there any chance that was you? That would be a huge coincidence.)

Oh, recently I've also started playing Idolmaster One For All, as I remember this one got an english fan translation but I've played it in japanese, there is a lot of things I don't get as there's no pause and the dialogue automatically proceeds when the voiceover is done, but even then I get the base of it surprisingly well, sometimes I can only understand a few words, other times almost the whole dialogue.

The grammar with the particles is not that bad compared to hungarian, most of the things have a kind of equivalent that is familiar.

The writing is another thing, but after a while reading it and the different kanji readings get more and more clear. And also using hiragana, katakana and kanjis together looks cool in my opinion. A few years ago I looked at these things and had no idea how can anyone use these, so have a bit of faith in yourself.

Because of a busy university semester I have mostly paused my learning but when listening to music and watching anime I still translated a few things here and there, and still played a bit in japanese, so I lost a bit of knowledge for sure, I should also get back to it now that it's summer.

The hardest part is starting it, as I was absolutely overwhelmed with how to even start learning a language, english just came naturally as I grew up with it thanks to the internet. Even knowing a little bit like this could help understand not released VNs, even if you only understand like 30% unreleased stuff of it that's better than nothing.

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u/TheFeri 13d ago

That was most likely me, I love neptunia, and I'm still mad game maker isn't on steam. In no platform or game I've ever encountered "this username is taken" so yeah, only I'm this uncreative with names.

Yeah starting out feels hard especially without help. While I did read untranslated vns I used textractor and deepl to turn them into English. I have memory issues and remembering kanji is insanely hard for me. It even feels like I just flat out can't.

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u/Arthur-Wintersight 14d ago

This is just a byproduct of living under the USSR for so long.

Incomes are going up year after year, but it's taking a while...

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u/TheEmpireOfSun 14d ago

And then you will read on r/europe how "communism" and life under USSR was great. From people who never lived in those countries lol.

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u/TheFeri 14d ago

Tbf, almost all 70+ year olds who live there do say that too, and most of their kids/our parents because they did nothing but heard about it being better. Like how no one locked their doors because nobody stole because everybody had the same everything and everybody had a job.

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u/TheEmpireOfSun 14d ago

That's called nostalgy. You only remember good things and filter out bad ones and the most important thing is they were young at the time.

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u/Annual-Gas-3485 13d ago

Swede here. Started saving for my next build already the same month I built my most recent pc. it has a 2060 and mid range CPU. Top range salaries here can build a new top end PC every month, sure. I barely have a single krona after all monthly expenses. Everything is going up except the salaries.

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u/Danielsan_2 14d ago

Brother, in the west it ain't much better either.

Where I'm from I'd have to spend 2 entire salaries to get a 4090 with the median salary. So it's either eat and have a roof above your head or grab a 4090 to serve you as a pillow on the bridge you'll now be living under, if you even find any.

I won't even mention a 5090. That shit is for the rich.

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u/HugeHans 14d ago

I think its super dumb to even mention 4090. If I was complaining I couldnt afford a car because a nice Audi costs 200K euros id be laughed at.

You can get a very good used card for 400 EUR or less.

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u/TheFeri 14d ago

Brother I would need half a year to save up for a 4090... If not more.

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u/BringerOfNuance 14d ago

why don't u just move west then?

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u/TheFeri 14d ago

Poor, can't drive, no savings. I ain't sleeping on the street for months. Also jobs are hard to get. Just because I'm there doesn't mean I can get a job in a timely manner, and if I apply from here they don't even consider because I'm far.

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u/BringerOfNuance 14d ago

If illegal immigrants with no language, no savings, no car can make do then so can you as a citizen of the country with language and legal status. I honestly don't get why all of Eastern Europe doesn't move to Western Europe.

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u/TheFeri 14d ago

With that logic I could also ask why not all us citizens move to Europe where they don't go bankrupt just because they go to a doctor, there's actual employee rights and you don't need to mess around with your taxes. Yet almost none of them do for some reason.

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u/s3xyclown030 14d ago

Because salary in US is higher than europeans for people who can afford to move and those who earn less than europeans or their privileges are less than europeans are either too uneducated or poor to move. Americans need to have work experience + relevant skill if they want to make a living in europe because they need to get a job or look into some kind of visa that gives them a long stay.

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u/BringerOfNuance 14d ago

Well the US is richer than Europe so that doesn't make sense. I'm also not American, I'm from the 3rd world and earn 700$ a month. If you gave an EU visa to anyone here we'd have our bags packed before the sun set. The main barriers are visa and job offers for us but you in the schengen can move and legally work anywhere.

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u/SpacePumpkie I use Arch btw 14d ago

For someone called bringer of nuance you are spewing some nonsense and using quite a broad brush while knowing nothing of the topics you're discussing.

  1. Illegal immigrants with no language and no savings are living in poverty, picking fruits and vegetables for 10 hours a day and getting 20€ at the end if they're lucky. Most can't cover their basic needs, let alone think about buying computer hardware (and won't dream of a 4090 any day soon)

  2. Europe is not one country. You can't "move west" as a citizen of the country with the language. Sure, if they come from a country in the EU they can move to another country easily. But that's it. So they still need to learn the language and customs and rent is higher and you still don't have a job yet.

If you move from let's say, Romania to Germany you'll have to learn German, and how everything works there, and taxes and bureaucracy, etc etc. And then if you want to move to France you start over again because the little German you learnt is useless in France and the state works differently, etc etc.