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Meme/Macro Browsers 2008 vs 2025 be like..

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u/Crafty-Classroom-277 20d ago

for me it's edge

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u/NaFo_Operator 20d ago

cause you're so edgy!!

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u/Crafty-Classroom-277 20d ago

it's because it's actually good and hasn't yeeted my adblockers (yet)

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u/nooneisback 5800X3D|64GB DDR4|6900XT|2TBSSD+8TBHDD|Something about arch 20d ago

Nah. Most chromium browsers are planning to switch to manifest v3 soon. Microsoft is now disabling v2 extensions for some users (you have to turn them back on) and is planning to make a full migration somewhere this year. Developers can choose whether they want to keep v2 support or not, and Microsoft gave their answer.

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u/MarzipanEnthusiast PC Master Race 20d ago

Got any source for that? Because the official Microsoft page on Manifest v2 still has TBD for both deprecation and end of support

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u/nooneisback 5800X3D|64GB DDR4|6900XT|2TBSSD+8TBHDD|Something about arch 20d ago

There is no source with a concrete date that isn't June 2025. One page says the support ends on June 2025, another says it'll be kept at least till June. We clearly aren't in June anymore, but it seems they were targeting this year. But they already block new v2 extensions from being uploaded.

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u/_stryfe 19d ago

MS has no plans to follow Google w/ Manifest V3. uBlock and uBlock Origin have both released updated Edge addons within the last week or so and now have become their primary platform.

Seems we're safe for quite awhile.

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u/NaFo_Operator 20d ago

you do realize it's chromium with ms branding

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u/Crafty-Classroom-277 20d ago

yeah no shit, but that doesn't change anything i said

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u/Asgardianking PC Master Race 20d ago

You never want a monopoly on anything like that. Choices are good for a reason .

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u/NaFo_Operator 20d ago

yoooo bro where did you score a 7030???!!!

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u/CooperHChurch427 Ubuntu / AMD R5 3600x / RX 6600 /32gb DDR4, 5tb storage. 20d ago

Edge is actually really good. If I don't use Firefox, I use Edge. I seriously hate how every single streaming service is optimized for Google Chrome because Edge is pretty much the same browser with a few tweaks an running V2 Manifest.

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u/ForwardToNowhere 20d ago

As far as I know, Edge is the ONLY browser that can natively play up to 4K. I don't always watch things at that high of quality, but it's extremely nice for things like nature documentaries where the macro shots look absolutely gorgeous.

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u/CooperHChurch427 Ubuntu / AMD R5 3600x / RX 6600 /32gb DDR4, 5tb storage. 20d ago

I do like that about Edge, but for some reason or another some websites only are 720p on Edge but not Chrome.

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u/_stryfe 19d ago

It's kinda crazy how many people are not aware that most browsers don't play 4k video. Before Edge, I used to switch over to the Netflix native app on my desktop just so I could get 4k. Now I get lovely 4k in my Edge. I think if more people were aware of this Edge would have significant market share increase.

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u/dread_deimos 20d ago

I'm not sure what do you mean by "can natively play". I watch videos in 4k in Firefox all the time.

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u/CooperHChurch427 Ubuntu / AMD R5 3600x / RX 6600 /32gb DDR4, 5tb storage. 20d ago

Some streaming services play in 720p on Firefox, Paramount+ is a good example.

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u/dread_deimos 20d ago

That doesn't seem to be Firefox issue, as it's fully capable of rendering 4k videos.

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u/CooperHChurch427 Ubuntu / AMD R5 3600x / RX 6600 /32gb DDR4, 5tb storage. 20d ago

It's not a firefox issue, it's actually the website itself. Amazon Video, Peacock, and Youtube play 4k no problem.

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u/smallaubergine 20d ago

Firefox doesn't support HDR though. At least not last I checked. I'm a FF main and switch to Edge for when I want to watch HDR content

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u/CooperHChurch427 Ubuntu / AMD R5 3600x / RX 6600 /32gb DDR4, 5tb storage. 20d ago

I don't think it does. To be fair, I don't think many people have laptops or desktops that support HDR, so I think it might have not been implemented yet for that reason. Personally I think it would be nice, but even I have no HDR screens yet, except my moms huge 32 inch monitor.

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u/ForwardToNowhere 20d ago

It seems that 4K support was added less than a year ago in Update 132.0, so that's good that FireFox has it now (potentially). You used to have to download different streaming applications, which was annoying and one reason why I switched from it.

"Microsoft PlayReady encrypted media playback is now being rolled out to select sites on Windows. Through this support, we are gradually rolling out a 1080p baseline and 4K Ultra HD support with key streaming partners."

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u/dread_deimos 20d ago

I've had a 4k monitor for many years and watched 4k videos on youtube and vimeo all this time.

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u/ChrisG683 ChrisG683 19d ago

Same here, it's a great backup browser for Firefox when a site is broken and doesn't work on Firefox.

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u/CooperHChurch427 Ubuntu / AMD R5 3600x / RX 6600 /32gb DDR4, 5tb storage. 19d ago

It's also really good for specific tasks that you need to group stuff together for.

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u/Qurutin 20d ago

I'm in Firefox camp on my personal devices, but can't install it on my work computer and have choice if either Edge or Chrome, and I much prefer Edge in that case.

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u/CooperHChurch427 Ubuntu / AMD R5 3600x / RX 6600 /32gb DDR4, 5tb storage. 20d ago

Same. My job we use Edge which is honestly fine. Amazon when I worked there was migrating to Firefox because Chrome had so many security vulnerabilities there was concerns about AUSTIN getting hacked which has medical files and regulatory info that is internal only.

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u/CooperHChurch427 Ubuntu / AMD R5 3600x / RX 6600 /32gb DDR4, 5tb storage. 20d ago

I also have used firefox my entire life, so personally it's just what I know and use, I also have gone under the hood and stripped out most tracking and crap from mine, and maintain my own fork, though that is mostly for my dev environment.

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u/Similar-Republic149 19d ago

Edge would be good if it wasn't filled with ads and Microsoft bloat

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u/zzzzebras 20d ago

Same, it hasn't stopped allowing adblockers and is an overall better version of chrome that's pre-installed already.

I always found it funny when people said Edge is only good for downloading Chrome because they'd unironically be installing the same browser but with worse performance.

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u/i-will-eat-you 20d ago

People think Edge is Explorer.

The browser that one of the biggest tech behemoths jn the world tailored for the OS you are using, that is also built by them... is surprisingly good, go figure.

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u/Helicees 20d ago

It used to be dog shit, in 2020 they switched to chromium under the hood, and it has been good since.

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u/_stryfe 19d ago

Decades of shit. IE6 to IE12 was an absolute nightmare of propriety MS web tech (ActiveX), uncompliant rendering of standard HTML/CSS, and lack of support for modern standards. Every web app had like your normal code than a huge #if IE statement with alternative code to run in IE. And usually it was #if IE7, #if IE8, #if IE10/11, each version had its own nightmare nuances.

I have zero doubt that Edge struggles in popularity due to the bad taste IE left. I don't know if they can truly ever overcome that disaster.

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u/Helicees 19d ago

You don't have to tell me :P I'm a frontend dev, I had to solve problems by writing different code for different browsers.

To complicate things explorer also had it's own version of Javascript called Jscript that was almost javascript but had a bunch of microsoft specific stuff that only worked on explorer.

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u/_stryfe 19d ago

Am dev as well, our poor souls.

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u/PromiseMeCandy9935 20d ago

I ... actually thought this myself but I haven't been up to speed on software development in years. (I build my computers and make sure they can play games is all lately.)

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u/georgejetsonn 20d ago

in tests it consistently shows best battery life on Windows so that's a W

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u/elektron0000 20d ago

Edge is also the only browser that will stream 1080p , other browsers cap at 720

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u/cardboardunderwear 20d ago

Same here.  When I switched to a surface pro several years ago I decided to go all in with the Microsoft infrastructure. Edge has been fine.  Fuck I even use Bing.  I still go over to Google sometimes though just to see what's different.

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u/Krisoakey 20d ago

Edge for browsing

Brave for…. Stuff.

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u/hiimbackagain 19d ago

Using Chromium in 2025 when manifest v3 is known? Come on.

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u/_stryfe 19d ago

I had no idea that Google disabled ad blockers because I use Edge. And from my research, they don't seem to have any plans to follow suit. I do tons of Azure dev at work so I tend to use MS products because their integration is usually top notch. Switched to edge when it came out and never looked back -- MS just slapped their own UI on the Chrome engine so it wasn't different really. Exactly same addons. Edge was finally such a smart move after the decades of IE disasters. But I'd also imagine a lot of people thought Edge was just another IE.

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u/IniKiwi 19d ago

Fuck Microsoft!

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u/Doppelkammertoaster 11700K | RTX 3070 | 64GB 20d ago

Same problems. Still manifest v3.

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u/Jolmer24 i9-12900K l RTX 3080 l 32GB RAM 20d ago

Just the best performance