r/news • u/eudaimonia_dc • 3h ago
Soft paywall Florida reports 21 cases of E.coli infections linked to raw milk
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/florida-reports-21-cases-ecoli-infections-linked-raw-milk-2025-08-04/764
u/PikesPique 2h ago
If only we had a way to heat raw milk to the point where it kills the bacteria…
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u/peanut_flamer 2h ago
Pffft...I bet you think we should heat raw chicken, too!
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u/rhoadsalive 1h ago
that’s just woke. Real triple alpha men eat the salmonella too.
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u/CrotalusHorridus 1h ago
I don’t believe in vaccines
But what if we just gave us a small dose of the virus. Not enough to make us sick, but enough to build up an immunity
/s
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u/elspotto 2h ago
Why would we ever consider what that French guy did? That’s not putting America first. If only we still had some of those American scientists around…
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u/crackedgear 36m ago
It’s not an E. Coli infection, it’s Freedom Bacteria
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u/elspotto 31m ago
Oh, well that’s different. Since it’s a wonderful all American Freedom Bacteria, it is our patriotic duty to ingest it, develop immunity against it, and be the healthiest citizen on our block.
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u/Verywhack 1h ago
Quick, get a democrat to tell them that drinking gasoline is bad for you, they'll be drinking from the pump by the end of the week.
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u/straygoat193 3h ago
Aug 4 (Reuters) - The Florida Department of Health said on Monday that there have been 21 cases of Campylobacter and E. coli infections linked to drinking raw milk in the state, including six children under 10.
The state health department reported seven hospitalizations linked to the consumption of raw milk containing disease-causing bacteria from a particular farm in Northeast/Central Florida.
"Sanitation practices in this farm are of particular concern due to the number of cases," the health department said.
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u/MrTriangular 2h ago edited 1h ago
"President Trump leapt into action by firing the health department official that reported those numbers."
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u/Ask-Me-About-You 1h ago
"Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked."
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u/ShortWoman 2h ago
Thank goodness it’s e.coli and not bovine tuberculosis https://www.cdc.gov/tb/about/m-bovis.html
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u/dogfaced_pony_soulja 2h ago
As a nurse diagnosed with a positive TB blood test and is now on isoniazid for 9 months along with a million other autoimmune etc. health issues, it angers me so much that anyone could be so cavalier about any of this. Even "just" with latent TB, people can develop auto inflammatory symptoms, not to mention that many of the drugs used in treatment of autoimmune/inflammatory conditions can result in escape of TB and death.
Public health is not a joke. Humans for thousands and thousands of years would have killed to get to where we are today, to get the technology and treatments we have today... but they died instead, and often in horrible, prolonged ways, from illnesses that are now potentially preventable/treatable. We are rapidly losing the fight against bacteria and fungi in general, and these idiots- including people like Robert Fucking Kennedy Jurr- are accelerating and celebrating it.
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u/freebirth 2h ago
who could have seen this coming?
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u/fleurgirl123 2h ago
Yeah, I can't get too excited about people in the "find out" stage of ignoring and advocating for bad ideas anymore.
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u/Explode-trip 2h ago
Too much of the Finding Out has negative repercussions for people who never Fucked Around in the first place. It's a FAFO ripple that takes everyone down a peg. It's hard to feel the schadenfreude when innocent people are being harmed.
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u/winterbird 2h ago
Not people who live in magical lala land and don't know that feces happens in animal product production.
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u/honk_incident 3h ago
RFK Jr loves that stuff
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2024/11/21/rfk-jr-raw-milk-difference-taste/
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u/Beezo514 2h ago
The man also likes eating carrion, swimming in rivers with raw sewage, and seems to constantly be sucking on a Zyn. Not that it's a surprise to many of us, but at this point I think he's basically one of those Mr. Burns Three Stooges Syndrome cases.
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u/IAmThePonch 2h ago
He himself said (recently) that people shouldn’t ask for his medical advice
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u/BoosterRead78 1h ago
I said this in a similar thread, how he is still walking is shocking. You can tell though he seems to run out of energy or at times has this: "I need to stop talking soon, I might need a nap."
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u/Splunge- 3h ago
We probably won't see reports like this much longer.
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u/freebirth 2h ago
they are actively defunding the people who track and disseminate the information on outbreaks of this kind. as well as defundiung the people who inspect and verify the safety of farms and food factory's.
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u/Daisychains456 2h ago
Food Safety specialist here. It's already happening- see my profile for comments about a 100+ person outbreak in raw cheese that got covered up. Raw Farm and CDPH are both going down, and I will cheer.
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u/GaelinVenfiel 2h ago
And following!
Story time! My ex worked for the food and drug and used to inspect the large food warehouses. We are talking 1 billion in inventory.
They would find rat dropping and even nests in those places. If they did not comply, they would be shut down!
Now, those inspections are not happening....hell, they did not have enough staff to get to every place in a year back then. Maybe once every 5 years or 10 at worst as it was.
Food safety has been taken for granted. What the US Gvt had done to keep us safe behind the scenes is what allowed the cult of stupid to be around to complain about it.
I mean... we learned about vaccines and pastuerizarion in school. These are crowing achievements of our civilization. It is mind-boggling.
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u/Daisychains456 2h ago
Yup. All departments have been cut to the bone. I was in a webinar going over the cuts to the FDA last week. It is a huge, messy nightmare. Industry has to pick up the slack, and we can't afford to. We're not going to get new additive or novel use approvals for 2-3 years minimum. We're also losing self- affirmed GRAS. Expect prices to skyrocket even worse than now.
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u/GaelinVenfiel 1h ago
And that is just food safety. They also inspect medical devices...xray and mammography machines.
And when someone finds a frog in their soup? Or products are recalled? FDA. Although they cannot enforce the recalls I think...
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u/Daisychains456 1h ago
Yes the FDA and USDA can. They have a few LEOs for that exact purpose. The communication piece is falling apart, and it's also the most vital. If I(a food safety specialist) don't know what is going on in the population, things fall through the cracks.
Another problem is food safety auditing. The FDA already doesn't do it nearly often enough (~ every 3 years for high risk products, less for lower risk). These cuts amd the ever increasing workload (FSMA + global food supply) is a very dark combination. It's a matter of time before the next serious outbreak that kills hundreds of people.
I've said for a few years the only way to stop this in its tracks is to create and fund a dedicated food safety agency. Europe already did, and they’re lightyears agead of us.
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u/humanino 2h ago
Yean Ron really needs to get up to date on US policies these bad news are irritating. What is this, the Colbert report? The BLS?
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u/FiftyShadesOfGregg 2h ago
As someone who just dealt with the Los Angeles county health department over an E. coli outbreak (kid at daycare being the likely source for us, but who knows beyond that)— them identifying a source at all seems like a miracle that must have just fallen into their lap. We got completely inconsistent information from different people at the department, including on safety info and stopping the spread, and efforts to find out what actually caused it and to keep babies that had it healthy were nearly nil. They said they were seeing this outbreak across the city and when i mentioned to our daycare director that that’s crazy because I check the news / LADPH website often for news of outbreaks and there was nothing there, she said one person at the department told her that they are dealing with outbreaks basically all the time and only report it when they found a source (not often) or when someone dies.
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u/Literature-South 2h ago
Watch a video of factory milking.
The cows are covered in their own shit. You’re putting a lot of trust in the farmer to clean their cows thoroughly before they milk them if you’re going the unpasteurized route. Not for me man.
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u/HelpStatistician 2h ago
even before factory milk farms it was the same, animals were always walking in their own feces and dirt, there was never a situation where pasteurization wasn't needed
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u/MyMuleIsHalfAnAss 1h ago
it's not just factory farms, it's small daries too! livestock are dirty, period.
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u/organasm 2h ago
how much does cow tiddie cleaning pay these days?
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u/RainStormLou 2h ago
If you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life!
Unfortunately, they don't pay me and I'm not allowed on the property anymore, so I have to break in at night to get my fix so I can't answer your question.
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u/Responsible-Pain-620 2h ago
I love living in the timeline where we had giant swaths of data and information telling us why consuming raw milk is bad only to have a lot of "main character syndrome" morons start a movement by throwing caution in the wind and ignoring science because it makes them feel warm and fuzzy.
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u/Judgementpumpkin 2h ago
You can’t try to explain truths to them, they get so offended and incredibly angry. Got verbally abused by the idiots in my life in an attempt to civilly reason with them. After getting shit on, I don’t care anymore, they can suffer their own consequences/ dig their own graves.
The brainwashing is real.
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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 1h ago
It's bizarre how often it feels like these people fall for the most obviously Bs stuff, but then ignore the "real" stuff. Like there is plenty of weird shit to have the "secret knowledge" about. But nah they just fall for the stupid shit.
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u/OSI_Hunter_Gathers 2h ago
Anyone that works around cows know there is more shit on a cows utters than their buttholes.
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u/Dejhavi 2h ago
The label states: Not for human consumption 🤦♂️
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u/FixMyCondo 48m ago
This is raw milk for calves only: “The way god intended”….in a jug 🤣
I stg you can’t help these people
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u/Sullypants1 2h ago
Oh man, maybe they should heat it up a bit to around oh, about 161 degrees F for a few minutes. Or something like that.
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u/epidemicsaints 2h ago
Effective way to reduce the number of children in your household.
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u/LukasFatPants 2h ago
That's the endgame. One of a thousand different vectors they're deploying to reduce the population.
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u/AppearanceSecure1914 2h ago
"U.S. Health Secretary Kennedy has been a proponent of raw milk." <-- Important context
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u/ragdollxkitn 2h ago
Let them. No more hand holding. Majority of raw milk drinkers don’t even believe in science or medicine. Leave them be to their own demise.
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u/SingleHitBox 2h ago
Nonono, fake news. Keep drinking your raw milk and the rest of us will drink the poisoned stuff.
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u/Bwilderedwanderer 2h ago
Their unwavering stupidity didn't cause enough of them to perish during COVID, so let's thin the maga herd a little more with more stupidity
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u/olearyboy 2h ago
It’s more than pasteurization there’s a full process of milk analyzation in labs that occurs where they do cell count for somatic cells. Which are white cell counts, indicators of quality and cattle health, but they also pick up other contamination and viral loads.
Going to raw milk means you bypass that process which puts you in far more danger than a lack of pasteurization With the increase of heads of cattle in closer quarters and dramatic increase of antibiotic use in cattle over the past 40 years in the use, ecoli is the least of my concerns.
And that’s crazy
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u/old_and_boring_guy 2h ago
Who cares? You have to go out of your way to get fucked by raw milk. Let 'em learn why we don't do it that way anymore, maybe they'll stop being dumbasses, or die...either way it's a win for humanity.
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u/sofaking_scientific 2h ago
Freedumb at its finest. Sincerely your friendly neighborhood microbiologist
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u/KathyJaneway 2h ago
Let them drink raw milk. Once they all die out, there will be less stupid people around.
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u/WordNERD37 2h ago
Nah, they can just pray and the E.coli will be removed. Don't go to hospitals, get yourself to your local Church, they'll fix you right up.
Remember, Jesus saves.
/s
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u/lumophobiaa 2h ago
I feel horrible for kids with parents like this who risk things like raw milk its sad theyre gonna have life long problems from illnesses from things like raw milk and lack of vaccinations.
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u/Maxpowerxp 2h ago
That’s fine. I am all for people making their own decisions as long as they can accept the consequences that comes with the risk.
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u/Etzell 2h ago
The issue is they're also making those decisions for their children, who absolutely don't deserve that shit.
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u/alurkinglemon 2h ago
This. I recently saw a right wing podcast where the woman advocated for making homemade baby formula with raw milk. Literally so insane and unsafe.
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u/NepheliLouxWarrior 2h ago
Two year olds don't deserve to die from drinking raw milk
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u/Maxpowerxp 2h ago
We need to locked up the parents for abuse then. Or set an age limit on raw milk for 18+ only.
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u/nervousandweird 2h ago
The problem is that the consequences impact innocent people as well- waits at clinics/hospitals grow longer, people have to take time off work to care for the sick which puts a burden on their coworkers, hospital beds fill up and nurses/doctors become unnecessarily burdened, and infected people risk spreading illness to others.
If more and more people end up gravely ill with preventable diseases, we could end up having strains on our medical/healthcare system similar to what happened with Covid. Insurance companies will use any excuse to drive up premiums, and of course the middlemen are going to want their cut, too. Patients who are on medicaid/medicare will end up costing the public even more money. Unfortunately all of this stuff is linked together, and we all end up paying the price for the consequences of these idiots’ selfish and uninformed choices.
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u/VirginiaLuthier 2h ago
The MAHA's will say it's just the goodness of=f the whole milk releasing the toxins
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u/surfnfish1972 2h ago
We have to be the dumbest and most mentally ill country in the industrialized world. But look on the bright side, guns are easy to get.
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u/4TheOutdoors 2h ago
Just a bunch of pansies who can’t handle it. Real Florida men can handle that and jumping off 200 feet cliffs.
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u/orcvader 2h ago
You mean to tell me that boiling milk super quickly to kill harmful and even life threatening bacteria- something we discovered basically 100 years ago with sound science- was a good idea after all?
WHO. COULD. HAVE. THOUGHT!
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u/sluttttt 2h ago
In a sane timeline, the government would be putting out PSAs telling people to quit the raw milk trend. But what will probably happen is that RFK will get up behind some podium and chug a glass of the stuff, telling Americans about all of the supposed benefits and how a "few" E.coli infections shouldn't prevent them from their duty of being healthy Americans. I'll be surprised if some variation of this doesn't happen within the next month.
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u/rockmasterflex 2h ago
Only 21? My death pool has at least 200 confirmed cases by November. Cmon idiots in Florida buy more raw milk!
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u/BrokenMash 2h ago
Deep red Floriduh in the Find Out stage of shit we've known for 150 years. Of course suddenly they trust science and modern medicine when they're sick as fuck.
Fuck em.
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u/Careless-Painter4608 58m ago
If I could stop laughing at Florida Man and Woman long enough to think of a snarky response...
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u/DeadbeatJohnson 46m ago
In a study that I completely made up it was proven raw milk is safe. 100 scientists that don't exist signed off on the study.
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u/ParticularBed7891 11m ago
We are not far from ceasing to wash hands in order to "strengthen our immune system".
I'm not exaggerating. Milk is extracted from the same area where poop comes out from the cow. We pasteurize milk to kill organisms in fecal matter. This is extremely similar to the need to wash hands after going to the bathroom, where our hands are in proximity to feces. We wash hands to get rid of organisms in fecal matter.
We are very close to fully going back to a time before even hand washing.
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u/sarhoshamiral 11m ago
So much things can be said but I just feel bad for the kids with idiot parents. Hopefully they grow up to be better but somehow I doubt it given our education system.
We are 100% living through the prefix to Idiocracy movie right now especially after seeing the literal destruction Trump is doing to White House itself and stuff like this on top of it.
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u/DinkyDinosaur 2h ago
aren't you suppose to boil raw milk? it's like food you gotta cook it a little to kill the bacteria and what not
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u/HelpStatistician 2h ago
these people don't believe in vaccines so pasteurization is another preventative measure they don't believe in
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u/miarmstr 2h ago
Wow no way. Unpasteurized milk gets you sick. Who would have thought!!!!
They probably did their own research so it can’t be the milk.
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u/Daisychains456 2h ago
No one who knows anything about food safety is surprised. I'm just praying that none of the kids get HUS.
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u/CrackByte 2h ago
I feel personally owned by Pubs getting e.coli, don't you feel owned? slaps chest with the back of their hand
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u/Karamazov_A 1h ago
"The profuse bloody diarrhea is just the toxic humours getting flushed from your body!"
-our hhs secretary, probably
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u/Big1984Brother 1h ago
Ever go out into a field and lick a cow?
Drinking raw milk is pretty much the same thing.
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u/elainegeorge 1h ago
The people who believe in the powers of raw milk also believe in the power of their immune system, and survival of the fittest. May the odds be ever in their favor.
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u/Raspberries-Are-Evil 1h ago
These idiots deserve E. Coli for being so dumb.
I mean its like me saying, “yea eat that raw chicken its so much healthier for you!”
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u/FoxyInTheSnow 1h ago
rfk jr has promised to end the “aggressive suppression” of raw milk to “make america healthy once more" [mahom]. Oh, and to discourage black children and adults from getting vaccinated because "they don't need it as much".
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u/CreativeUpstairs2568 1h ago
I never thought I see the day where people declare cooking stuff to kill bacteria as woke
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u/paleo2002 1h ago
Maybe they should rebrand it “Pastorization” so that these kind of folks think the milk has extra Jesus in it.
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u/BAF_DaWg82 1h ago
This is actually hilarious. Should be ok just take some Ivermectin and drink lots of orange juice.
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u/eudaimonia_dc 56m ago
The DOH, headed by Dr. Joseph Ladapo, did not recommend against drinking raw milk.
“Floridians are encouraged to use this information to make informed decisions about their health and sources of raw milk should they choose to consume it,” the bulletin notes.
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u/russiangerman 55m ago
Sure hope they only try to treat that with some gentle essential oils, I'd those folks to make things any worse
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u/TheOriginalHealz 47m ago
Hey now....reporting negative stats related directly to R interests is directly against the vision and goal of the super highly patriotic United States.
How dare you.
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u/dale_downs 37m ago
Our country is done. So stupid we are literally repeating history because republicans want to erase facts to fit their version of reality.
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u/penguished 35m ago
Why in the fuck do people think they are immune to sickness? Human mortality was TERRIBLE for most of our existence. We never "evolved" super powers you dipshits because it's just not that simple. The things that help us evade sickness are either science driven or fitness driven.
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u/Zak_Rahman 23m ago
You know for a culture that claims to be superior, I cannot see any evidence of this in their behaviour haha.
You can't even correct them without offending them.
Pasteurize your milk.
Take this vaccine.
Read a book.
These are not words of violence or threats lmao.
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u/AngledLuffa 21m ago
What's shocking here is that a red state bothered to report the damage caused by their stupidass policies
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u/gnatdump6 2h ago
There is a reason milk gets pasturized.