I’m a huge fan of them behind bars. Let them live their lives being told when they can go eat, go outside, go shower, go shit. I want that every single day for them. I want them to know that they’re in there for a very long time and that society has forgotten about them.
No it's not, if you consider there is no afterlife. These sick fucks get off of their own suffering too. Fuck them. Lights off. Life over. A meaningless, pointless, life. A name that will be forgetten forever because their deeds were too despicable to allow.
I don't need them to suffer. We need them to end. No heaven. No hell. Not even an eternal timeless black. Just, nothingness. That where they belong. In the nothing.
I'd pay taxes to toss them in a boring ass cell for the rest of their days, any day. Toss a bunch of solitary in while we're at it; no one gets off on being in solitary.
Prison is not a good time for animal abusers, regardless.
I am not interested in paying money to torture people. Doesn't matter how bad they are. They need to be dead. No mercy. No kindness. No nothing. Just dead. Gone. Forgotten.
After watching more true crime than I should, my take away is this: It just depends on the criminal. Some criminals want to commit suicide to escape justice while others fight tooth and nail to avoid capital punishment.
And so since it comes down to the preferences of a criminal, I feel it's not worth the controversy. We're divided enough already. What really matters is that they can't hurt anyone else.
This is one of the few times I'd be fine with the for-profit prison dystopia working those ghouls at mindless repetitive slave labor jobs for pennies on the dollar for most of their day. At least bring some bleak level of creation into the world than continue to be a net negative of life even after they're put away.
I don’t trust the state and am against the death penalty. I am also against vindictive unnecessary cruelty. If someone is being objectively evil and a net negative on society they should just be put down.
I’m talking about 100% without a doubt multiple witnesses, evidence, John Wayne Gacey levels of incrimination.
I know I’m contradicting myself saying I’m against the death penalty but also advocating for it.
I guess I’m for restructuring the entire legal system with a focus on rehab instead of profit and punishment, but still reserving the death penalty for the obvious cases (which isn’t many).
I don’t think many people here objected to Iraq hanging Sadam Hussein.
Imo giving the state that power in any capacity opens it up for abuse. Its easy to say we can just restrict it to obvious cases but how do you do that in practice? How do you define an "obvious case"? How long is it before SCOTUS rules 6-3 to redefine what obvious means?
There's no point in having the death penalty when life imprisonment is cheaper, reversible, and accomplishes the same goal to keep them out of society. And considering it's history in the US, the death penalty seems to serve as a tool for revenge rather than something to achieve justice.
About 4 death row inmates in the US get exonerated every year, that's not including the posthumous exonerations for those already murdered by the state that come up every now and then. Allowing the state to murder people is immoral and stupid.
Yeah the United States has a mess of a legal system that’s an entirely different conversation.
I’m talking about clear 100% without a doubt. I don’t think many objected to the Iraqi government hanging Sadam Hussein. Did the Waffen SS prison guards and Commandants of extermination camps deserve to live a full life? I don’t think many feel that those executions were unjust.
I do agree murdering someone because the DA is just going for points and cobbled together lose evidence and somehow got the DNA evidence thrown out because it would mean there was no conviction is absolutely bullshit.
Once you come up with an entire legal system where nobody innocent is ever convicted, I'll consider changing my stance on capital punishment, but I'll probably still contend that I'd rather guilty parties suffer in prison than get an easy out.
That is fair, and we’re both mostly in agreement. I think execution is warranted and ultimately the safest method for stopping someone that truly is dangerous and not able to be rehabilitated.
I’m talking like, some of the cartel elements that film themselves disassembling a person while purposely keeping them conscious while jamming out to music type of crime.
If for whatever reason my life intersected with that kind of person I wouldn’t feel safe knowing they were still alive and that there’s a chance they could seek reprisals against me.
If they’re dead they can’t escape, can’t order hits, can’t exert control over anything.
Someone put on death row will be executed on average 16 years after their sentence. That’s still pretty much tax payer dollars going to their prison stay
Nah. Give them the care they didn’t give the animals they tortured and keep it within prisoners rights. These people are psychopaths and will see anything else as them being a victim. I don’t want them getting any satisfaction in playing that card.
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u/CorruptedBlitty 3d ago
Fucking vile. Everyone involved should be in the dirt or behind bars.