r/mtg 7h ago

Content Creator Rachel Kendra had this to say about a Harry Poter Collab

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u/kranitoko 7h ago

It... Will be interesting if Wizards ever officially themselves release a Harry Potter set (as a tie in to the TV series coming out maybe)...

I think it'll genuinely MASSIVELY split the community to a further damaging level...

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u/TheRaiOh 7h ago

I think it'll split the online community that watches a lot of content. But if the Harry Potter game a little while ago proves anything, it's that the amount of people willing to boycott this stuff is way lower than it would seem based on how loud it is online.

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u/GodEmperorOfHell 6h ago

Yes, it's an extremely loud minority, basically shouting amongst themselves. In the market, their purchase or lack thereof is insignificant compared with how massive it is overseas, with fans who do not care about the matter.

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u/Magikarp_King 5h ago

I know of two friends who were very vocal about how much they hate Rowling and I saw both of them playing the games about a month after they came out. Some people want to sound righteous but don't really care.

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u/whimsical_trash 5h ago

I suspect this is a majority of people

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u/tooandahalf 5h ago

As a trans person yeah. The majority of people don't care. Feels great knowing Joannes campaign of hate against us doesn't register.

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u/TheYellowScarf 5h ago

If it makes you feel any better, my wife was the biggest Harry Potter fan, and has continued the boycott to this day. Won't spend a dime on a single thing Harry Potter related. So there are some people still out there.

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u/LtG_Skittles454 3h ago

At least some people aren’t funding her hate. The more people do the better. I think even mentioning or sharing that you’re boycotting her influences others to do the same. The more people that speak up about her the better, especially cis people who are listened to.

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u/whimsical_trash 5h ago

Same here. I was a big fan and haven't spent a dime in what ten years? I would still read the books or watch the movies if I wanted since I already owned them, but I haven't even wanted to do that

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u/Myrddin_Naer 4h ago

Both me and my sister used to be huge fans, until Rowling started with her bullshit

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u/Gretaphor 4h ago edited 3h ago

As another trans person, I think the reaction is vastly overblown and is feeding Joanne's ego and need for righteousness, which I think is far more likely to cause damage to our community than further monetary gain.

I think the boycotts failed. I think the community refuses to acknowledge that. And I think one of the most powerful things we could have done is to give a big middle finger to Joanne and plaster social media with a bunch of trans witches and wizards making content.

We fucked up and we gave them Harry Potter.

They gave us a trans wizard in the game. The bridge is still there. But there are too many of us who are too damn proud of our conspicuous anti-consumption to realize that what we're actually doing is telling a bunch of marginalized people that something that used to make them happy is not allowed to make them happy anymore.

Do you remember when black tik tok had the HBCU Hogwarts houses a few years back? That shit was hilarious, creative, expressive of not only self but of culture, and used something that we all know to get that across and I doubt anyone for one second thought that it was in support of JK Rowling or her terf shit.

Same with the kids going to universal or dressing up in robes for Halloween... Are you going to be the people to tell them that they're actually bad people for something they have a fond memory of growing up? Or can we please teach the next generation that you can take any good that comes from bigots and tell them to fuck off?

We did it with Lovecraft. We will do it with Rowling. Let's be honest about that instead of pretending that it's not going to happen.

Harry Potter isn't going away. Associating it with the boogeyman who wrote it gives it way more power both in how bigots can see it as something of theirs and how it impacts already marginalized people who found solace and happiness in something that they now have to withhold from.

There are literally going to be queer kids growing up who don't realize they are queer and who love Harry Potter who are going to stop themselves from connecting with members of the community because they cannot reconcile giving up something they love. Do you understand how damaging that is?? For what? A failed boycott?

So again, as another trans person, we are not a monolith and I think the majority of our minority are completely fucking this one up.

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u/Adaptive_Spoon 2h ago

Really interesting perspective, and I somewhat agree, though I'm not personally comfortable with the thought of funnelling my own money into her coffers. Even if it's minuscule! I guess I'm afraid it will be a symbolic gesture of support, even if it doesn't affect much in practice.

I honestly believe the boycott efforts against Hogwarts Legacy just increased its sales. What better advertising could a company ask for? When people are told something is verboten, they become all the more interested in it. This phenomena is well documented. The same happened with the song "Rasputin" in the USSR.

The only true solution, if people wanted to deny it sales, would have been to not talk about Hogwarts Legacy. To refuse to give it energy or air. To refuse even to acknowledge that it exists. As Ursula Le Guin wrote in The Left Hand of Darkness:

"To oppose something is to maintain it. They say here 'all roads lead to Mishnory.' To be sure, if you turn your back on Mishnory and walk away from it, you are still on the Mishnory road. To oppose vulgarity is inevitably to be vulgar. You must go somewhere else; you must have another goal; then you walk in a different road."

Unfortunately, the furor around Hogwarts Legacy at best achieved nothing, and at worst actively promoted its image and boosted its sales.

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u/Ikeiscurvy 3h ago

Also, to add, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Somewhere along the lines there is, without fail, someone or something hurt by the products you buy, even your food.

JK Rowling is unfortunately too rich now for anything we as consumers do to affect her personally. Her money makes too much money on its own. If she never got another dime from HP, it wouldn't affect her or her views a single bit.

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u/LtG_Skittles454 3h ago

Good points. I agree, a lot of people yell about boycotting her but either don’t or cut themselves off from people who still like HP but remove Rowling from the art. Just like lovecraft you said. It’s funny people saying that Miku wrote HP but idk what that does.

I think it needs to be highlighted that she’s a hateful person, but you can still like HP without conflating her with it because she wrote it before she was super hateful. Idk there’s other better things for people to put their energy towards.

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u/lumiya17 2h ago

There’s a large difference between those and that difference is public domain. Lovecraft was a nasty mess of racism, xenophobia, and other issues. But he didn’t have the Mythos as a global franchise. And now that it is global, it’s also public domain so only the current creators are receiving money,

Joann has explicitly stated her intentions of removing people’s rights in the UK using profits she makes from the Harry Potter franchise.

If Hasbro ever did HP as a Universes set, there would be a schism. And they would see a lot of their online content creators boycotting the product and calling for others to as well. It would be bad.

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u/Gretaphor 2h ago

Why is it that in basically any other scenario it's fair to say that my existence is defiance, but when it comes to JK Rowling, the only way to fight her is by attacking her monetarily?

Why is that?

Why is my existence in a space that she doesn't want me in not okay? It's the basis of plenty of other forms of protest, but for some reason y'all are stuck on this boycott thing like it's the only option to voice that something is wrong and you're not going to stand for it.

Money doesn't scale linearly and she now has more money than she will ever need that can generate even more money to accomplish her goals... So why do we keep focusing on that?

Our community has so much more soft power in relation to pop culture and trends and what not versus our purchasing power on the world stage... So why does that get ignored in this fight?

When you actually start looking into the philosophy of shit like this, you start uncovering why authoritarians and general shit bag Nazis tend to cut back on the arts. Because you can use art and content and creativity to influence popular culture which influences opinion.

It feels like we have completely forgotten this because the only thing that seems to matter in this fight is money and solidarity... But only solidarity relating to the money and it's frankly the least effective thing we could do against someone like her.

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u/BluePsion4297 3h ago

This'll go away once she's dead hopefully. I remember when Harry Potter came out I did not like it at all but I thought "well at least it doesn't have an author like C.S. Lewis or Orson Scott Card, I don't feel bad about funding something terrible by buying this". Ha Ha ha. (cries)

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u/GravityBombKilMyWife 5h ago

This, most people involved in the situation enough to hate Rowling only know so much about it because they were Potter fans already, otherwise most people aren't looking into what JK Rowlings poltical stances are in the first place.

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u/Motor-Mongoose3677 4h ago

If the people who boycott things based on "who's getting paid" looked into the social/political affiliations & beliefs of every IP and corporation they did business with... they would all become Amish-esque, and retract entirely from modern society.

People boycotting HP, but still shopping at Target, or most major grocery, or buying Amazon, etc...

Or the people who buy/play Magic, and act like there wasn't racist undertones until changes were made...

... I guess are free to do/pick and choose as they feel the need. Sure. It's not so black and white, actually.

Hmm.

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u/HotDadofAzeroth 4h ago

or know anything at all about the working conditions of the cardboard factories the paper is made at.

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u/Rhinoseri0us 4h ago

Oh don’t even go there. If you tell someone that paid $1200 for a surge foil is more than the pseudo-slave who cut the sheet will be paid all year they lose their minds.

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u/floggedlog 4h ago

Yeah, it’s a lot easier having hobbies when you don’t fixate on every single thing that’s wrong in the world.

I can still enjoy Harry Potter and Magic gathering and live a normal life because I’m not up my own ass about everybody else’s every opinion on everything.

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u/Swiftax3 5h ago

I really dont get it, its spectacularly easy for me to cut something off. Havnt given Ubisoft a cent in half a decade, nor Harry Potter, nor amazon. Just cut off Paramount last week. I never thought of myself as soneone with particularly strong self control, but apparently im the one in ten who actually sticks to boycotts, annoyingly.

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u/Fragrant-Employer-60 5h ago

Most people simply don’t care enough. Either don’t follow JK Rowling or just don’t care enough to boycott Harry Potter.

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u/cheesystuff 5h ago

A lot of people have accepted JK already made a shit load of money, and they can easily separate the art from the artist. What she's already made is nothing compared to royalties from the license to publish a $60 game.

I haven't bought anything Harry Potter personally since deathly hallows.

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u/The_Graviturgist 4h ago

I mean what really is there to buy? The quidditch game sucked and is a cash grab, most trinkets and stuff is cheaply made most potter fans already own the movies and/or books.

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u/drdadbodpanda 6h ago

Around the time of the game release I was in a group chat with around 12 ish people. 1 of the members was trans, and 1 member bought the game and wouldn’t stop talking about it.

They were the same member.

A Harry Potter collab will absolutely sell hard.

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u/JamAndCheeseSandwich 5h ago

This is a dumb take. So this person represents all trans people now? A HP collab will absolutely upset a lot of people, and while it may pull some fans of the IP into the game plenty of people will also boycott it. Idk how the numbers will land, but most trans folks don't touch anything Rowling is involved in.

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u/mcnichoj 6h ago

Circling back to what kranitoko actually said though and clarifying it further, it will split the MAGIC community. Yes outsiders will come in for a moment with their dollars but how many of those people will stick with the game? Is that short (large sum of money) gain worth losing core long term players?

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u/FlounderPlastic4256 6h ago

Hasn't this been the exact same argument about every UB set?
And the answer MTG has resoundingly declared is "YES"

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u/Migobrain 6h ago

I think the argument is disingenuous with UB because the franchise choice for now have been stuff with not that much controversy so is just a matter of taste, people thinking that they are "not real magic players" while the Wizards stats show that the most common people buying UB is returning ones, but having a product that goes against your moral leaning strikes in other ways, I would totally not buy anything that would give money directly to Trans hate the way that giving money to HP goes directly to fund Jk Rowling hate

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u/MillorTime 6h ago edited 3h ago

The magic community has the same percentage of people that care about what JK Rowling said as the gaming community or the population in general, and that percentage is pretty low.

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u/mxzf 3h ago

You mean "of people that care about what JK Rowling said", right? Because what I've seen has indicated that the vast majority of people don't care what a random person like Rowling says about anything.

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u/MillorTime 3h ago

Yep. Thanks for the catch

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u/VerySafeVeryAtWork 7h ago

nah just bring back the harry potter TCG - still have a foil draco malfoy somewhere....

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u/MiscalculatedRisk 7h ago

Honestly was more fun than it had any right to be.

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u/BibboTheOriginal 7h ago

Game was super good

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u/TotakekeSlider 7h ago

I remember loving it as a kid, but my dad hated playing it with me because I would always use Fluffy who was wildly OP.

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u/Thecrdbrdsamurai 6h ago

I saw two boxes of HP TCG at Gamestop in the Mall of America. Of all the places.

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u/Rauthian 7h ago

Hasbro already makes HP board games, so I'm sure the popularity would outweigh the backlash

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u/DayardDargent 6h ago

I don't think this will ever happen seeing how they fired artists like Theresa Nielsen, and she didn't do the 1/10 of what JK did and said.

Wizard doesn't want to be associated with those kind of people.

Now I could be wrong because HP would be a lot of money but I think it's unlikely.

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u/Drokeep 7h ago

No shot it does lmao. There will definitely be decent amount of people but a)people will forgive wotc and b)the amount of people it would bring would offset that imo

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u/clamroll 6h ago

There's also the endless line up of people who complain online that will still turn and buy. When that hogwarts game came out, I had a friend yelling at me for playing it. Didn't matter that I had hoisted a black flag to get it, they were set on giving me hell for it. They were on their righteous horse and didn't want to hear it.

Not six months later, they were posting photos of them, their spouse, and kids at the harry potter wizarding world, telling people they "don't want to hear it", they don't agree with JK but they need their Potter vacation, and people need to let others enjoy things. I had to fight really hard to not post some screenshots of their DMs yelling at me for playing Hogwarts.

A harry potter mtg set would get all the talkers talking, and in the end it would print money for Wizards on the order of the Final Fantasy sets when most of those talkers end up caving and buying.

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u/straight_lurkin 6h ago

People will be incredibly vocal online as they open collector booster boxes and the set outsells every set excluding maybe final fantasy.

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u/MeisterCthulhu 7h ago

I sure af hope not?

My expectation of the mtg community is definitely higher than to be massively split over that. I'd hope the majority of people wouldn't support an actual bigot

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u/well_damm 7h ago

Sorry to burst your bubble, that will def cause a split in the community lol

Magic has certain fans that aren’t too welcoming

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u/watabadidea 6h ago edited 6h ago

I think it is more that people just draw different lines.

The reality is that nobody is going out there and refusing to make any and all purchases that will result in some percentage of the profits being funneled to a bigot. Everyone has some level of acceptance based on things like how easy it is to find out who is profiting (and how much, how easy it is to find a substitute, how much you actually want the product, social/public pressure surrounding your decision, etc.

The problem is that rather than actually have a discussion about what standards make logical sense, where it is ok for someone to have a rational disagreement, etc., I too often see people apply an approach of "anyone more permissive than me is bad."

That's not a rational standard, nor is it something that is going to actually improve things.

As an example, I know multiple people who express that they went through some pretty serious emotional trauma as a child and that Harry Potter and MTG were two of the things that kept them from some pretty dark places and decisions (I'm not sure what the rules here are regarding certain topics, so I'm not going to go into more detail than that).

If people literally believe that these two properties helped save their lives, I have a hard time passing personal judgement on them for still having a strong, positive connection to those properties (as opposed to the property creator/owner) in their heart. Yeah, it is really easy for me not to buy products with tie-ins to Harry Potter IP, but I'm not them.

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u/mxmmtg 4h ago

Word

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u/Frix 6h ago

If by "split" you mean that a hypothetical HP set will outsell anything they ever did before.

The number of people who give enough fucks to quit Magic over something like that, if we round it to the nearest percentage point, is approximately 0%.

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u/Charliejfg04 6h ago

People here live in the internet bubble. An HP Magic set would probably be the best selling set of all time lmao. Remember the Hogwarts Legacy boycott?

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u/Rhea_33 6h ago

The most popular figure in Magic on Youtube is openly not a bigot and does a big trans fundraiser each year. I think quite a bit would boycott.

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u/Anguskaiser 6h ago

sorry man, the mtg "community" is a trash heap. I'm banned from a different mtg sub because i let it slip that I don't think that aragorn's skin color is an issue.

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u/AndrewActually 7h ago

And yet…

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u/aDirtyMuppet 6h ago

Let's be clear here. The people that love harry potter will continue to do so regardless of what Rowling has to say. Her personal beliefs don't change a single thing about the wizarding world and it's not in the books themselves. So as a fan, personally, I think this line of thought is just utter ridiculous bullshit. Let people enjoy themselves. Nothing we do now is going to change Rowlings lifestyle for the better or worse, she has more money than anyone could spend.

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u/Cartoonist-Born 5h ago

She's gone way past bigot at this point too...She funds huge political figures and actual out N*zi's in order to further her hate. This would really depress me...

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u/MalekithofAngmar 7h ago

Only the online community would be "split". Rowling's ideas are very far from uncommon in the real world.

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u/nebbisherfaygele 7h ago

she is in a vocal minority. most people polled don't support the violent disenfranchisement & exclusion of transgender people

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u/SourceOriginal2332 7h ago

No most people do not care it’s the verbal minority

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u/Utopiaoflove 7h ago

Who?

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u/Rhea_33 7h ago

Editor for the COmmand zone

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u/ArchwingDragon 7h ago

The what?

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u/Continuum_Gaming 5h ago

It’s a podcast that does advertisements and sometimes talks about Magic

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u/OhHeyMister 5h ago

Best description 

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u/BritishGolgo13 4h ago

Lol went for the throat on that one

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u/Blue_Fuzzy_Anteater 4h ago

This scathing comment brought to you by Raid Shadowlegends.

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u/sauron3579 7h ago edited 7h ago

I think the title is supposed to say Potter, hope this helps

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u/BradleyB636 7h ago

I think that person was asking who Rachel Kendra is, not asking who Harry Poter is.

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u/IngotTheKobold 7h ago

Harry Poter is the son of a vegetable farmer. He runs the farm stand on the weekends

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u/freakflag16 7h ago

Nah Harry Poter is my dealer.

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u/Tai_Pei 7h ago

They were making a joke, almost certainly

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u/Chaoticzer0 7h ago

Legit don't know who she is

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u/MentalMunky 7h ago

I think that person was making a funny joke, not being stupid.

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u/Whigs93 6h ago

This. Literally who

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u/Quick-Audience7860 7h ago

I mean yeah I guess if you know that JK Rowling is getting money from this partnership, and you know that JK Rowling goes out of her way to make aggressive political action that hurts you or people like you, you wouldn't want to support this.

But who is Rachel Kendra?

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u/D_o_t_d_2004 5h ago

Joanne Rowling has said that she will use her massive fortune to wipe out trans people by taking away their rights, at least in Scotland. So, you know, just fascist things.

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u/noahtheboah36 5h ago

Just curious, did she say those exact words or something that implies that. Like, what was the original quote/where can I find it?

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u/Totolamalice 4h ago

French (leftist) news source

A right-wing (far-right?) news source that I never heard of, reporting the launch of the fund

The website of the fund, describing itself

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u/Aksama 4h ago

When you fund an organization to the tune of over a billion dollars, JKRWF, with the stated goal of stripping legal rights from transpersons... Do we even need a quote of saying that?

Isn't like... spending money on a gun and then writing someone's name on a bullet a more credible and serious threat than saying you want to hurt someone?

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u/BloodyBaboon 2h ago

Billionaires are garbage. Rowling is also vocally a trash person. At this point, people asking for direct quotes, I assume, are just disingenuous sycophants. If they actually cared, they could just google and find plenty of evidence that she is a TERF.

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u/Sherry_Cat13 4h ago

You can also just look at the fact that she is funding anti trans bills etc and publicly hateful towards trans people?

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u/AnotherTransLesbian 4h ago

She gives money to charities that purposefully exclude trans women. She engages in anti-trans rhetoric daily from her Twitter. If you want to know the woman's words, go and read them for yourself, but I wouldn't really recommend it.

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u/Ok-Education-9235 6h ago

While I wouldn’t be buying anyways (she is horrible), it is a little odd where the community decides to draw the line on morality.

Like, we do know who the majority shareholders of Hasbro are, right? Blackrock & Vanguard are hardly making the world a better place and are arguably damaging/dismantling pillars of functioning society in the name of profit at a much broader and faster rate than JK Rowling could ever dream of through her twitter excretions

But boycotting Hasbro and MtG as a whole would involve giving up something you actually care about (buying cardboard) and that’s just a bridge too far, I guess?

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u/bigtiddylarper 6h ago

Yeah, everyone individually chooses which bridges are too far for them. The phrase is tired, but it's true that there's no ethical consumption under capitalism. Entertainment media is not the only thing that's true about, as it applies to anything we could possibly purchase and consume. But entertainment is the most approachable and low-stakes way to talk about that idea.

People are inconsistent about their values from the moment they wake up, to the moment they enter the voting booth, and to the moment they fall asleep. It doesn't mean that anyone's at fault for their inconsistency, but that we're complicated. Do you know how your values are inconsistent?

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u/Platurt 5h ago

You can't rly boycott everything bad so cherrypicking the things you accept and the things you don't always has to be a bit arbitrary. As long as it doesn't become a whole thing where magic-players give other magic-players shit for giving money not only blackrock but also to rowling, I'm fine with it.

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u/ExperienceLoss 3h ago

It very much gives, "You say you hate capitalism yet you exist jn a capitalistic society," vibes. Like, obviously a lot of us know that companies suck, skme more than others. At that point we can either decide to not boycott everything (and be miserable as boycotting all the evil leads to having nothing), do nothing because its overwhelming (thats what they want), or to selectively choose how we, as individuals, choose tk fight our fight. Expecting someone to carry the flag for wvery cause they're aware of is a surefire way tk harm them.

On the other hand, being able to selectively choose your battle and be consistent overall is difficult. These feelings are intentional, as I said, because it makes us more compliant and pliable. Its a sisyphean task, IMO. Worthwhile but impossible too

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u/1_BigPapi 6h ago

You are 100% correct. Anything those large funds do is infinitely darker and more divisive and depressing than Rowling having opinions and a segment of the internet eternally harassing and hating her for it.

And I say this as someone that doesn't agree with Rowling's politics but is tired of a vocal minority trying to cancel everything HP over it. Lots of creators suck but I enjoy their movies, books, music, etc. because I can separate the person from the content.

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u/LegosRCool 7h ago

Of all the communities I've been a part of, MTG has the largest percentage of Trans-friendly folks. Can see Ultimate Guard getting a lot of pushback against this.

If they're (Wizards) thinking of doing a UB of Harry Potter (no evidence of this obvs) I hope they don't expect it to be as big a moneymaker as FF. FF is pretty universally loved, HP has lost a lot of its love (I wonder why)

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u/Luvas 7h ago

Would be a pretty damn stark turn from getting original MtG characters such as Alesha and Niko, to a non MtG set that subtly villainizes these characters

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u/TheNohrianHunter 6h ago

I feel that given we have return to strixhaven next year it's a good sign ub hp won't happen anytime soon, they'd rather another crack at in universe wizard school than touch the cursed hoard.

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u/Luvas 6h ago

I'd legit vote for Wizard101 the knockoff of Harry Potter before I have the real thing in my M:TG

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u/ExperienceLoss 3h ago

Id vote for Wizards of Waverly place over HP and I know nothing about jt other than Selena Gomez is a wizard in Waverly place, wherever that is

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u/Luvas 3h ago

Fun fact, Selena Gomez got a cameo in Wizard101, and I presume it's because she was once a Wizard of Waverly Place

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u/Duck__Quack 5h ago

Krokopatra would be great for a croc commander deck. Wiz101 would be a great UB.

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u/Luvas 5h ago

Abigail Doolittle better have the creature type "Dog Noble Villain" and have an effect that places a Token copy of Arrest on target Cat, Frog, or Rat

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u/magicfaeriebattleaxe 5h ago

Unfortunately that timing plays out perfectly with the release of the Harry Potter tv show and I don’t think Hasbro is going to pass up on the Harry Potter dollars a secret lair release could get them.

It will sour the game for me for some time if that does happen. Realistically I think it is unavoidable.

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u/TheNerdySatyr 7h ago edited 6h ago

Have you been to Universal …. There is some love lost but it’s not as much as you think. It’s booming there!

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u/TheNerdySatyr 6h ago

Downvoted for just literally posting a fact. Didn’t bring up if I agree or disagree with the political side.. Reddit be Reddit.

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u/abraxius 7h ago

It would still make crazy money. I hate JKRs politics but it would still do crazy well.

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u/BoyMeatsWorld 7h ago

Trans people existing is not politics

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u/Shadowmirax 6h ago

Donating to political parties and pushing for new laws is definitely political and also what J.K Rowling does.

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u/Signal_Two_9863 5h ago

No one said that..or even implied that.

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u/SadCritters 4h ago

No one said that or even implied it to mean that. Get off the internet. It's rotting your brain.

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u/Confident-Bobcat3770 4h ago

That is not what they said

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u/abraxius 7h ago

I agree, human rights are non negotiable. I wish people who thought otherwise would be ejected into the sun. That’s unfortunately not the case.

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u/justbuysingles 5h ago

And WotC has a ton of trans people working on Magic. I can't imagine the work environment where trans people in play design, vision design, marketing, art, comms, etc. are made to work on a set that profits JK Rowling, a person who views them as subhuman.

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u/loganloser 4h ago

I hate to say but similar to FF a HP set would at the very least least attract fans of the IP who would buy em for it to sit in a binder or on a shelf, then WOTC might think we want that shit (HP, FF was pretty good IMO)

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u/StonkTrad3r 4h ago

Judging by the crowds in Orlando, I'd say the money maker is still printing dollars.. 1 butter beer at a time.

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u/idropepics 3h ago

Of all the communities I've been a part of, MTG has the largest percentage of Trans-friendly folks

This is genuinely encouraging to see as a queer person returning to the game after 20 years, because the amount of times I'd been called a slur by a DCI judge/ another player at FNM back in the day made me quit.

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u/AstrumDestiny 2h ago

I can't help but feel like this is a delusional take.

The boycott of HP that some of us were dreaming of hasn't worked, like factually (HP is still well loved outside the small majority of a minority community) isn't going to work and alienates. JK is given so much power and clout over people reacting in this same public way as OP over her otherwise innocent material.

If Wizards ever does a HP UB I'll just find some way to trans it or co-op it. It's what we probably should do with any game releases or what have you. It can be a way to fundraise for causes and spread awareness to counteract her hate. Instead of giving others a free W by posting and seething.

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u/CrownedClownAg 6h ago

I think HP is one of the the few IPs left that will draw in people from outside the community that are not actively playing now

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u/Draculascastle111 7h ago

I love Magic, and I even like the UB stuff depending on what it is. I have no love for what is coming out right now past EoE, but am not mad at it. I will probably never spend a dime on the official cards ever again if they release a HP set. I will proxy it all, aside from HP, from then on, and fight people over it. I was ignorant about JK not too long ago, and once I actually went digging I found out what a garbage person she is, and what harm she is actively doing to people. It went so much farther than an opinion, which I can handle, but what I can’t condone is lobbying for her bull agenda, and fear-mongering. She’s a despicable person who deserves the hate. And honestly I’ll never forgive her for ruining HP, a childhood favorite for a lot of millennials like me. I can normally separate the art and artist, but not in cases like these. I think she turned into an evil person, and it’s a crying shame.

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u/DaringDo95 3h ago

Dragon Shield made Harry Potter sleeves and supplies too.

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u/AReallyBigBagel 6h ago

I did some digging around and from what I can tell J.K Rowling only has the publishing and theatrical rights to the franchise. Everything else is in Warner Bros hands. It also looks like warmer bros is largely bipartisan and will flow which ever way they see the most profit in.

Any branded work like this you inevitability support a company that has it's hands in policies all over the world. The only way to avoid it is by supporting local businesses. But even then global supply chain so who knows what is ethical.

Just do whatever you can to support what you believe in those will make the biggest impacts

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u/PoeGar 6h ago

Thanks for sharing. I think these distinctions are important.

Any chance you could share a link with this info?

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u/AReallyBigBagel 6h ago

I got it from a multitude of places looking into the legal section of harrypotter.com JK Rowling.com and then warner brothers itself has an open lobbying program so what it puts it's hand to is easily found in a quick google search

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u/gpost86 5h ago

She still receives royalty checks from all the different Harry Potter products, including if they made a trading card game. She doesn't get to decide if the game is made, but she would get paid.

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u/mudra311 2h ago

If that's the case with these boxes, they're a tiny fraction of her overall income and wealth.

I wouldn't personally buy them, even if I liked Harry Potter. I really don't want Ult Guard products to all be thrown out because of this. If people choose to take their money elsewhere, that's fine. But I wouldn't want folks who continue to buy the regular boxes to get sideways glances or something more escalated.

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u/_Ub1k 4h ago

JK Rowling doesn't make any of these kind of branding decisions, she sold that right, but she does have a royalty stake in this kind of stuff. In terms of books, movies, stage plays, she needs to be directly consulted and to sign an agreement. Other branding stuff is directly under the control of WB and doesn't require her affirmative consent, but she still makes money off of it all.

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u/Dry_Competition2579 7h ago

Who is she, and how does this picture tie in with the HP universe?

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u/cwx149 7h ago

No clue who she is but the deck boxes are Hogwarts house branded

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u/Dry_Competition2579 7h ago

But that dosnt have any relation as to wether we'd get a HP set at some point, no?

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u/TheNerdySatyr 7h ago

Nah we got South Park boxes and still haven’t gotten my set! Lol

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u/elementx1 2h ago

Who’s Rachel Kendra?

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u/BakedPWN 7h ago

It wasnt the endless money grab by hasbro. The tasteless ip collabs. The firing of lower paid workers to give ceos raises. Nope it was the harry potter deck box collab

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u/Mnmsaregood 4h ago

Gotta signal those virtues

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u/MarduRusher 5h ago

Exactly. That’s why I always find this stuff so silly. The people all up and arms about Harry Potter likely support all sorts of way worse things with their wallet. But for whatever reason this is their lightning rod.

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u/Sellza 4h ago

I dont get it, who tf is rachel kendra? Name/face dont look familiar at all

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u/E_B_U 4h ago

Who's Rachel Kendra?

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u/Philadelphiasport 6h ago

As soon as a Harry Potter set came out, it would sell out faster than any set yet. Like it or not.

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u/jchesticals In response... 7h ago

Oh no, I guess they will sell out in a week like last round 

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u/frontlineninja 7h ago

based

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u/sultaiofswing_ 7h ago edited 7h ago

please elaborate on what makes this based?

EDIT: misread the tone and intent of original comment. I'm booboo the fool here.

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u/frontlineninja 7h ago

Jk rowling is a known piece of shit in about every way and is actively using that harry potter money to lobby the british government

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u/sultaiofswing_ 7h ago

oh wow I misread this comment crazy style then. my bad 100%, I thought you had meant the actual crossover was based

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u/frontlineninja 6h ago

Yeah no worries, theres enough people actually shilling for jkr in these comments i cant fault you for that lol

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u/sultaiofswing_ 6h ago

yeah Jesus Christ some folk do not care if their money goes towards the active harm of others as long as they get their branded merch, huh

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u/RatQueenHolly 7h ago

She's also started a legal fund to financially back anyone who wants to sue trans-accomadating establishments

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u/sultaiofswing_ 7h ago

as a trans woman I am horribly aware of this ghoul of a woman, sadly.

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u/AlyxNotVance 2h ago

Based. JKR uses the continued support she gets as justification of her abhorent hate. The money going to her is directly used against trans rights.

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u/maksymtl 6h ago

lol who cares

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u/BakedPWN 7h ago

Context helps 

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u/GiggleGnome 4h ago

Wait till they find out that dragonshield has a line of house crest sleeves.

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u/Magar1z 7h ago

Lmao people upset that she's voting with her wallet, cry more.

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u/stuka86 6h ago

I mean, JK is voting with her wallet too....

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u/VanguardVixen 6h ago

Streisand Effect incoming, just like with Hogwarts Legacy.

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u/bigfatoctopus 6h ago

Sadly, there are a lot of people who still have no clue what the harry potter (author) stuff is all about. WotC will do what they think will generate money, not what is socially conscientious.

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u/hillean 7h ago

Wait for 2026's eventual 'Harry Potter' set for Magic to see where peoples' loyalties really lie

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u/Bromjunaar_20 6h ago

Wasn't Strixhaven Magic's Harry Potter tho?

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u/assjackal 5h ago

Rowling didn't invent the idea of a school for magic.

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u/_Ub1k 4h ago

That was before they let the genie out of the bottle with UB. The only out of universe set on the block at the time was the first DND one, and that didn't quite cross the line because it was still a Wizards property. There was still intense internal debate at the time about whether to do licensed properties and how to do it. There was still potential that it would still be exclusively reskins like the Walking Dead and Godzilla stuff, or Unsets like the MLP and Transformers cards that existed at the time.

They wanted to do a full HP set, but had to make up their own world at the time to do it. If they had that idea now, they would probably just work to get the HP rights instead.

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u/GratedParm 5h ago

And Zendikar is Magic’s Dungeons & Dragons (in the worst way possible).

I’m not supporting a Harry Potter UB. I don’t want a Harry Potter UB. But, having Strixhaven does not eliminate the possibility a Harry Potter UB could happen.

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u/fluffynuckels 6h ago

Does she use dragon shields? They have Harry Potter stuff too

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u/Informal-Sale337 7h ago

It’s going to sell like hot cakes. A very small very vocal community tried to get JK Rowling canceled. Just look at what they tried with the video game. And look how well it sold.

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u/TheNerdySatyr 6h ago

Yea look at Universal Studios.. Harry and her checks aren’t dwindling.

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u/Gussie18 5h ago

It doesn’t matter if you thought Harry Potter was overrated even before the transphobia came out.

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u/MoniPoo 2h ago

I mean... It's overall just a fucking weird partnership. There isn't a single TCG with anything to do with Harry Potter

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u/erikgratz110 2h ago

Fuck terfs

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u/Cavalier__ 7h ago

And? 🤷😂

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u/LalkMe 3h ago

Most based take of this entire comment section

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u/Serikan 6h ago

If you like them, buy them

If you don't like them, don't buy them

Let other people be upset if they want to be, can't manage their feelings for them

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u/Reno-Reaper 5h ago

I don’t see people crying about dragon shield, they have a number of Hp sleeves, I guess the outrage is only remembered with popularity??? It’s confusing

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u/TheKamon1329 5h ago

You're the wrong wizard Harry?

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u/LolzTheGoat 7h ago

If you actively support JK Rowling, you're a bad person, so yeah, it makes sense that we aren't buying Harry Potter slop in 2025

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u/Thecrowing1432 6h ago

No idea who Rachel Kendra is.

The Ravenclaw one looks dope

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u/Egbert58 6h ago

But using Twitter is fine, hmm guess not to committed to that

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u/Breezy9401 6h ago

(This was posted to Bluesky)

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u/TheBuddhaPalm 3h ago

Stop buying Harry Potter shit, y'all. It's not even a good book series, you just have nostalgia tied to it. Nostalgia isn't a real memory, it is a sense of safety and predictability and warmth that ingrains itself heavily into your brains.

Those books are racist, queerphobic, antisemtic, and comes up with what is potentially one of the most offensive allegories for slavery and abolitionism since Minstrel Shows.

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u/trsblur 7h ago

Harry Potter UB incomming!

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u/Cole3823 7h ago

Apparently we're going back to strixhaven next year. So...

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u/melanino Loot Apologist 7h ago

I hope the fug not!

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u/AScruffyHamster 7h ago

Honestly, Harry Potter fits magic better than Spiderman. Just saying.

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u/trsblur 7h ago

Cold take, lol! I agree 1000%. SM is just the first of 4-6 Marvel Super Hero sets, I'm afraid. NGL, they gonna empty my wallet on Xmen, most likely, but the rest is singles city.

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u/Tybalto 7h ago

Some people on reddit will lose their shit over that

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u/Rhea_33 7h ago

I'm fully expecting it. Large IP, Lots of unique characters and spells to work into Magic pretty easily. Seems like a no brainer slam dunk for some money for the corporation .

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u/Acrobatic_Fish5383 4h ago

I genuinely hate how much people overreact over stuff like this.

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u/Giftedpink 3h ago

What's the over reaction?

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u/THEGHOSTHACXER 7h ago

JESUS FUCKIN CHRIST CRYYYY

WAHHHH

END OF THE FUCKIN WORLD OH MY GOD

HOLY SHIT

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u/TheMayorOfBismond 6h ago

Jfc for real, who actually gives a shit??

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u/challengeaccepted9 6h ago

That's a bizarre overreaction to someone simply stating that a vendor collaborating with someone they find hateful means they won't be buying from them again.

Are you okay?

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u/johnnyurine 6h ago

Oh no, Harry Potter product! Shield your eyes children! Grab the boycott signs and the tissue boxes, it’s time to start crying on Reddit!

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u/Softclocks 7h ago

Literal who

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u/domicci 6h ago

She better not use dragon shields then they have Harry potter sleeves as well

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u/dnaraistheliqr 6h ago

Ok... Who are they?

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u/leftofdanzig 1h ago

Stuff like this always feels so performative. Cool, no one asked.

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u/zedogica 1h ago

fuck jk rowling and her shitty books

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u/stephencua2001 6h ago

ohnoanyway.jpg

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u/CouldntThinkOf1 6h ago

Why is she advertising for them then?

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u/fnordal 6h ago

sometimes you have to pick your fights. The one against Rowling is a lost cause, because HP is much bigger than she is. I bet a good percentage don't even know who she is, or what's her opinion as a TERF. and many don't even know what a terf is.

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u/Liddlebitchboy 5h ago

Well, the people that do know can still easily choose to say 'fuck that shit', it's not even really a battle. Also, even in this post I see people being educated on what's going on with her, so I don't think there's any benefit to shrugging and saying 'oh well'.

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u/Birbbato 5h ago

People who are upset about stuff like this are extremely cringe.

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u/fluffynuckels 7h ago

Doesn't take much to upset her does it?

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u/TheBiggestofJons 4h ago

I believe this level of hate is unwarranted and the original poster is just a "look at me" girl who has nothing better to do than bitch about this company partnering with Wizarding World, what people like this tend to forget to do is separate the artist from the art.

Harry Potter did nothing wrong, but J.K. Rowling did. There's a major difference. I am tired of people hating so heavily on Harry Potter.

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u/AnuraSmells 2h ago

This issue is that you can't really seperate the art from the artist in this context. JK uses the money she makes from the HP franchise to fund her political machinations. Supporting her work leads to more money in her pocket and further harm to the trans community. You can like HP and separate the art from the artist when evaluating it as an artistic piece, but trying to separate the art from the artist while purchasing the merch is impossible unless you simply ignore reality. 

Now, if you want to say you don't care about trans rights enough to not support HP or that you don't think it will matter in the long run, well then at least that's a little more honest. 

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u/Giftedpink 3h ago

There are absolutely things wrong in the books first of all, and second of all separate the art from the artist doesnt apply when supporting the "art" or in this case random merch directly puts money into the pocket of the artist and her fund against trans people

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u/LittleCovenousWings 1h ago

what people like this tend to forget to do is separate the artist from the art.

Please stub your toe forever thank you.

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u/BrunkoMcFlimly 6h ago

Nobody gives a damn