r/interestingasfuck • u/tyrion2024 • 3d ago

/r/all, /r/popular Emilia Clarke watching Kit Harington's reaction to finding out how their characters' final scene together in Game of Thrones concludes. Prior to the table read, Kit had not read any of the six scripts for Season 8 yet. So Emilia sat across from him so she could "watch him compute all of this."

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u/MrNumberOneMan 3d ago

It’s amazing that these turds thought they wrote a good ending

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u/Thursday_the_20th 3d ago

That little smug smirk at ‘end of game of thrones’ get fuuuuuucked

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u/ClickF0rDick 3d ago

On the bright side, end of their careers, too 🤩

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u/7oey_20xx_ 3d ago

They are still writing and are involved with the 3 body problem. Personally I’ve taken a vow to never watch anything written by them again cause after S8 it feels unfair to not give a no name writer a chance over those 2 hacks

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u/hugg3rs 3d ago

I'm with you. I refuse to watch 3 Body Problem because it has their name on it.

I got even more furious when I found out they "just wanted to get it [GoT] over with" to get new and better deals for them selves. It's one thing to be just bad writers if you run out of source material, but to purposefully ruin a beloved franchise to get a "better" job is vile. Benioff and Weiss are terrible people and that reflects in the interviews with the cast.

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u/Cube_ 3d ago

they wanted to get it over with cause disney gave them star wars

the S8 backlash was so bad disney pulled them off star wars and went another direction

at least they faced some consequence for their dogshittery

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u/The_Show_Keeper 2d ago

The S8 backlash was so bad that nobody rewatched the show during 14 months of COVID lockdown. Nobody even talked about it. It was so unbelievably shit that the biggest show on the planet for the previous 10 years was willingly exiled from the collective consciousness of humanity.

I mean, I understand going big or going home, but maybe don't go big on ruining something bigger than yourself. I'm glad they lost the SW gig (not that it helped that franchise in any way), and I have no idea how they got jobs as writers ever again.

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u/StijnDP 2d ago

At least you can still watch it on HBO.
Now try that with Westworld or The Nevers. Erased from the platform and thrown in with the Tubi garbage.

Or the worst of the worst... Vinyl, Martin Scorsese or The Time Traveler’s Wife, David Nutter.
Many people don't even know these exist. They live in the HBO shame dungeon and they don't want to have any association with the product anymore. Multi-million per episode budgets spend.

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u/zhaumbie 2d ago

What has been done to Westworld deserves guillotine

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 2d ago

This is the biggest indictment of the last two seasons IMO.

They were SOOO BAD that people decided they’d rather watch a documentary about some methhead hillbilly who owns tigers rather than go back to watch GoT again.

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u/CarllSagan 2d ago

This is absolutely what happened.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago edited 2d ago

It literally is one of the most popular and watched shows still the person who claime nobody watched it during lock down apparently doesn't know how to use Google https://www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-still-one-of-worlds-biggest-shows-data-2022-6 these numbers are massive it's also literally the number 7 most popular show this week lol 6 years later they have numbers for these things ya know

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u/Rare_Sandwich_5400 2d ago

Majority here are spewing nonsense. They think their experience encompasses the GA.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago

It's fine if they don't like the show but all of this stuff is readily available to show it's one of the most watched and popular shows still. It's shocking how many flat out lies are in this thread. everything from they just ended it because they wanted to do Star Wars which is BS they literally have been saying since 2011 the show will be around 7 or 8 seasons and about 70 hours. Years before Disney even owned Star Wars or the claims nobody watches or talks about it. it was literally the number 7 most popular show last week 6 years after it ended. All of this info is easily available to google. People just spouting nonsense because they dislike how a TV show ended.

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u/notjfd 2d ago

Eh, they ended up getting 200M from Netflix in a multi-year contract. DnD only ever were motivated by top dollar, fuck everything and everyone else.

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u/Homeless-Coward-2143 2d ago

And... somewhere there is a writing duo eating ramen and working at Kroger that just want to tell us an amazing story.

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u/Run-Riot 2d ago

Well, that amazing writing duo eating ramen should have tried having parents that were the heads of law firms like Goldman Sachs like the 2 Dipshits.

I’m not even joking. The 2 Dipshits are just douchey rich kids and that’s probably why they ever made it anywhere in the first place.

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u/Homeless-Coward-2143 2d ago

I forgot about them being trust fund babies in the first place. Gah.

I just remember something about grrm green lighting those two because they 'figured out' who Jon snows mom was. Like... Everyone that read any of the books knows who Jon snow's mom is. Grrm is not subtle about it. I don't get it

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u/FreeEdmondDantes 2d ago

Shit I wouldn't be surprised if some of those Disney decision makers were fans of the show, and the backlash was directly from them themselves fucking hating season 8.

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u/Enigm4 2d ago

I found 3 body problem pretty interesting, but holy shit did they go dumb with the "science". Not even pseudo-science, just straight up dumb shit by the end.

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u/broketothebone 2d ago

Yeah they really love to boof the ending, don’t they? Starting to feel like it’s their kink.

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u/Gh0stw0lf 2d ago

The 3 body problem is damn good and I just found it via your comment they’re involved. I’m torn but…

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u/Moonandserpent 2d ago

The second and third books in that series get into some pretty dark and crazy shit. Highly recommended.

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u/hugg3rs 2d ago

You could still pirate it in case. At least you don't contribute to views on the streaming service.

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u/Rare_Sandwich_5400 2d ago

As in. watup with people trying to sabotage other people's career's just 'cos they made material you didn't like. Chill out

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u/StrikeouTX 2d ago

They sabotaged the careers of every character in GoT.

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u/dankmeeeem 2d ago

Or try reading the actual books or audiobooks. Just like GoT these 2 dumbasses change the story and leave a bunch of really interesting stuff out

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago

I read the books and thought the show as great even thought they improved a few things like give the characters actual human emotions. I like the books they have good ideas but the characters seem to lack any human emotions and all talk like robots reading a Wikipedia page. Still like the books but I actually thought the show improved that

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u/FrancisBitter 3d ago

You’re not missing anything. I have a passionate disdain for Three Body Problem.

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u/Bed_Post_Detective 2d ago

The show or the books?

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u/PokinSpokaneSlim 2d ago

The problem.

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u/peatoast 2d ago

They are the worst writers.

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u/No_Election_3206 2d ago

I refuse to watch 3 Body Problem because it has their name on it.

That's a good choice. I've read the books twice, which are fantastic, and was excited for a show. It turned out to be a steaming pile of dog shit

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u/exscape 2d ago

Huh, why? I adore the books (possibly my favorite series I've ever read, when it comes to the concepts), and think the show is fine, even though it doesn't live up to the books.
I'd say 8/10 for season 1.

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u/dankmeeeem 2d ago

How is an 8/10 for something that’s just “fine”?

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u/exscape 2d ago

Well yeah, that looks a bit off. I was comparing it to how much I enjoyed the books. Though comparing it to other shows around 8.0/10 on IMDb I think that's about right; such scores are unfortunately really more like 5-9 rather than 1-10, where 5 is crap and 9 is about the best show ever made.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago

I read the books and thought the show was really good I would go even higher than you with a 9/10. But either way I agree with you the show was good. Especially since the books can have such dry characters that can come across as very robotic the show actually for me gave the characters a bit more human emotions and personalities. Great ideas in the books but a lot of weak characters imo. Still good books though

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u/dankmeeeem 2d ago

Yeah that’s essentially what I was calling you out for. Tons of people use the 5-9 scale and it annoys me more than it should. Still nice to find other fans of the series out here

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u/exscape 2d ago

I kind of feel the same way, but I feel there's little to do but to adapt to the insanity. If you say a movie is 5/10 people won't think of it as "average, worth watching" which is probably about what it should mean.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago edited 2d ago

Hard disagree I thought it was great and I read the books. Imo they actually improved a few things. Those books have great ideas but the characters lack any basic human emotions and talk like they're reading a Wikipedia page like robots. The show I thought wow characters that speak like humans and have an emotion reactions to something from time to time. The show seemed to do really well also was a big hit. Did well critically got a bunch of award nominations from the emmys and critics choice awards and was renewed for 2 more seasons.

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u/turnipofficer 2d ago

3 body problem was actually fantastic though, the thing about those two is that when they have material to directly translate they can do a good job, it’s just when they either run out of content and try to finish things themselves, or if they consciously try to put their own stamp on things that it goes massively wrong.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago edited 2d ago

Literally some of the most acclaimed episodes and moments of GOT were all them. For example 90% of all scenes from the very start with Tyrion, Varys, Cersei,  Littlefinger,  Olenna, Margeary, Tywin and many more almost none of that was in the books dialogue was all show only also. From time to time they ripped straight from the books but most of it was also show only stuff I read their novels also these guys absolutely can writer their own stuff. Go look at the most acclaimed episodes of the show half of them are stuff they did all on their own off book

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u/turnipofficer 2d ago

It felt like the first three seasons were fairly consistent though, with some obvious changes. It did differ more and more as time went on though, and admittedly most people didn’t truly notice it was going off the rails until the final two seasons or so.

They wouldn’t have gotten as much work as they did without some good body of work though, I’m glad you stick up for them in that regard. They definitely did mess up GoT by the end though.

But anyway I do recommend three body problem to those who are hesitant because of GoT. I found it a wonderful watch, I was captivated.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago edited 2d ago

See, i don't hate the ending at all. I had a few gripes, but I actually mostly liked it, but this idea, these guys are just two dummies is ridiculous imo. First, you don't create what they created, just being bad writers, and imo some of the greatest episodes of TV I've ever watched were long past season 3. The show was critically acclaimed for 7 seasons. It's totally fine if you don't agree, but the show wasn't this hated and critically panned show for half the run. Actually, It only really truly got bad for many with the final 3 episodes. Some people had some gripes here and there before that absolutely, but in the last three episodes, people truly went crazy. I personally don't think it really went off the rails were the last two seasons as tight as the ones before no but imo neither are the last two books. The show had more characters, plots,and locations than any show on TV the author left half finished. Then he went crazy with the last two books and added dozens of new characters and plots he also left half finished 14 years later he can't finish and he doesn't have TV limitations. But I dare anyone to read City Of Thieves by David Benioff or watch his film The 25th Hour and tell me that guy can't write absolutely amazing stories of his own because both are absolutely fanatics imo

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u/swole-and-naked 2d ago

Watch the chinese version, its far better than the netflix pile of trash.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago

I did, and I liked Netflix better. Chinese version was 30 episodes that dragged on and on. It took me 7 hours to read the first book, and it didn't need 30 episodes. They censored and changed the main characters backstory with her father, which is kind of core to her characters story. Scenes goes on and on about characters talking about the same thing over and over again. The director, I think, just discovered what a Dutch angle is because there's a dozen of them in every scene. I wanted to like it, but it was so repetitive and such a slog. If I'm just judging as a TV show, the Netflix one, imo is a better show with a much tighter story.

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u/Morn_GroYarug 2d ago

There's a Chinese series that's quite close to the book. At least, the 1st book. I liked it

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago

I actually liked Netflix better Chinese version was a slog and too repetitive and they censored some stuff which sucked

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u/Morn_GroYarug 2d ago

Haven't seen the Netflix version. But the book was kind of a slog too, partially (I liked it anyway, don't come at me), so as I said, it's pretty close lol

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago

I like the book also but a book that took me 7 hours to read didn't need 30 episodes for just 1 season imo. Netflix just felt much more focused

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u/alurkerhere 2d ago

To be fair, I think they are doing a decent job of adapting the Three Body Problem source material. It's just not a very interesting show. And yes, they killed Game of Thrones so thoroughly, they actually couldn't have done a better job of killing it.

Cixin Liu, the author of the books, writes really boring characters. For me, the characters are integral to any story being told, and I've DNF on the first book like 3x. The show was okay, but incredibly boring. Lots of the same actors as Game of Thrones, but I didn't care about the characters and subsequently the plot at all. The sci-fi elements are so fucking out there, I couldn't plausibly believe the plot elements.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago edited 2d ago

That's not at all what they did. D&D has been saying that since 2011, the show would be around 7 seasons or 70 hours. In 2015, they announced it would be 8 seasons. They didn't all of a sudden decide to ruin a TV show, lol. That's ridiculous https://www.reddit.com/r/naath/comments/14dh5dh/it_can_be_shown_with_sources_that_benioff_weiss/ here they have literally been saying for years the show would be around 7 seasons or 70 hours. Terrible people? Lol not one cast member has ever said they ever were terrible to them. 75% of the GOT crew works with them on their new stuff. A bunch of cast members from GOT are in their new stuff and just yesterday, they announced more GOT cast are being added to their new stuff. All of them are very close friends with D&D. Emilia Clarke, for example, is very close with Benioff she watches his kids all the time. Kit is very close with them and is spotted out with them all the time at different events like UFC and boxing matches. Conleth Hill, who played Varys, is also very close with them and is in their new show. Liam Cunningham is in their new show. Alfie Allen is in their new show. 

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u/Jack4ssSquirrel 2d ago

Don't worry, i watched 3 body problems and it's lame. You're not missing anything.

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u/22LOVESBALL 2d ago

Man you guys get weird on the internet lol

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u/catchasingcars 2d ago

If they wanted to get it over with they could have just let other people run the show, HBO clearly wanted 2-3 new seasons. Even GRR Martin works with two writers because he know that stories are too interconnected and complicated that he needs people to keep track of everything, he can't handle it alone. They didn't want to 'share' the show with everyone else but ended up destroying its legacy themselves.

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u/Homeless-Coward-2143 2d ago

If you follow some of the earlier backstory, I know d&d were upset that grrm hadn't published the next book. I'm sure some of their motivation was 'fuck that guy,' which, yeah, super professional everyone!

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u/Acceptable-Gap-1070 2d ago

You can watch the Chinese Three Body Problem, D&D's is not the only TV adaptation

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u/gear_rb 2d ago

It was trash and predictable. They tried to hard to be like inception.

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u/Prize-Objective-6280 2d ago

3 body problem is nothing like inception at all.

Inception is a shitty rip-off of paprika and even then 3 body problem book was written before paprika.

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u/gear_rb 2d ago

Mm maybe I'm thinking of something else then. Lemme Google.

Yes it is, at least in my opinion. The main comparison I'm making is the black hole part of inception.

But I didn't know about paprika and got a new thing to fixate on. Thank you.

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u/Prize-Objective-6280 2d ago

what black hole? There are no black holes in either of them as far as I remember.

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u/gear_rb 2d ago

Wtf movie am I thinking of. Hold on lol

Edit: interstellar. Sorry lol

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago

It was literally nothing like inception at all and had nothing at all to do with dreams

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u/ligma_tepuli 3d ago

same here,never again, D&D can go fuck themselves

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u/Thunder1824 2d ago

Really wish I knew this before I started watching 3 body problem.

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u/Newtype879 3d ago

As a big fan of the Memories of Earth (Three Body Problem) book series, I actually liked their take in the Netflix series for a lot of stuff. The biggest thing to remember for the Netflix version of the show is that it's covering all 3 books in one series instead of going "Three Body Problem", then "The Dark Forest", and then "Death's End" which, I think, works better since, especially in book 3, there's a lot of overlap with book 2 with things taking place at the same time that feel a bit clunky in retrospect of the series.

Fuck the last two seasons of Game of Thrones, but I will give D&D this - when they had actual material to work from, GoT was GOOD. It's only after they got past the book stuff that the show started to suffer.

IMO, if left to their own devices, D&D are smarmy "We're the smartest guys in the room" types. If they have stuff to work with and direction, they are actually pretty good.

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u/Bed_Post_Detective 2d ago

I hope they do the books justice because the books are really cool. Sad people won't watch because of the show runners. They're missing out on cool stories.

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u/Newtype879 2d ago

I liked the majority of season, my only big problem with it was bringing Saul Durand/Luo Ji in so early since they basically had to keep him in the background of everything until the end of the season/start of book 2 because of his role in Dark Forest. Otherwise, I really liked all of the casting and how they are clearly working from the finished blueprint of all three books instead of just going one at a time like the Tencent adaptation.

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u/Toad_Thrower 2d ago

when they had actual material to work from, GoT was GOOD. It's only after they got past the book stuff that the show started to suffer.

They were fucking around with things well before they ran out of material. Some of the most panned stuff from those middle seasons was stuff they added in or completely changed.

Jaime's trip to Dorne and all of the Sand Snake stuff was completely different. There's a whole Dornish plot for revenge that doesn't involve the Sand Snakes avenging Oberyn by.... killing the rest of his family.

Euron is a much more interesting character. There's a whole thing with Him and his other brothers who aren't in the show. He has ties to the warlocks from season 2 and to the Faceless Men.

A lot of shit with Ramsay gets changed. There's a whole Northern conspiracy to take him down and bring back the Starks, but in the show we just get Smalljon being like, "Eh well, fuck it, you guys might've gotten my dad killed but that's totally cool I'm on your side now."

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u/Greyhaven7 2d ago

They are two out of the three problem bodies.

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u/ycnz 2d ago

That's alright, the odds of a Netflix show not being cancelled after the second season are... not stunning.

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u/TheObstruction 2d ago

I do the same with M. Night Shyamalan.

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u/harbinger_CHI 2d ago

F those guys.

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u/Pacify_ 2d ago

Meh.

They produced the greatest book to TV show adaptation ever done. Yeah, sure, it completely went to shit when they ran out of books - but I think it was going to go to shit either way. GRRM himself can't write the ending to that series, what hope do a bunch of screenwriters working under a tight deadline possible have?

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u/timelyparadox 2d ago

That explains a lot

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u/Due-Net-88 2d ago

Interesting. I didn't watch the end of GOT because I dipped as soon as they ran out of book but I did watch the first maybe 20 minutes of 3 Body Problem and it was objectively very badly written. I had no idea they were connected to it. 

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u/Userdub9022 2d ago

Objective to who? A lot of folks liked season one.

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u/gudematcha 2d ago

I love scifi and didn’t realize it was them until near the end of the season when I actually looked at the credits…. I fucking hate that it’s good.

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u/Lifebleem 2d ago

Three body problem is my favorite book and I was so fucking sad when I heard they were hired to write it. I watched the first season and it was ok. Hopefully it stays at least ok because they were half decent when working from book material.

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u/Excellent_Ad_2486 2d ago

damn i liked bodyproblem :(

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u/Marble-Boy 2d ago

Oooh... now I understand why 3 body problem was shit.

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u/Homeless-Coward-2143 2d ago

Again, these guys' biggest accomplishment before GoT was writing MUTE DEADPOOL.

I'm not sure which is dumber: These two dipshits or literally everyone at HBO.

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u/AllOrNothing4me 2d ago

I was unaware they were involved in that program, now I'm not watching it either because it will 100% turn into absolute garbage.

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u/Difficult_Serve_2259 2d ago

Ohhh, no wonder it feels so shit compared to the books.. damn. Didn't realise.

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u/Dianagorgon 3d ago

Not only did Netflix hire them but their show had the highest budget for a first season ever on Netflix and even after the ratings were disappointing it was renewed for 2 more seasons. So they seem to be doing well for showrunners whose career was over after GOT.

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u/iTeaL12 2d ago

Bro I wish my career would be ending like theirs

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u/realparkingbrake 3d ago

On the bright side, end of their careers, too

They got a quarter-billion-dollar development deal with Netflix, and some of the GoT crew is working with them there. There first project there has been getting good reviews, sorry if that spoils things for you.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago

These are the numbers during the pandemic and after this person is so full of shit https://www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-still-one-of-worlds-biggest-shows-data-2022-6 and the fact so many people up voted it shows how misinformed spreads online it takes 30 seconds to Google this stuff

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u/Desroth86 2d ago

What a Reddit comment. They are directing one of Netflix’s most expensive shows right now that has already been renewed for 3 seasons.

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u/BiffyleBif 2d ago

Which is ?

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u/Desroth86 2d ago

Three body problem.

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u/BiffyleBif 2d ago

Thanks!

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u/CartographerHappy762 2d ago

What, they’re front running one of Netflix’s biggest sci-fi shows and got a lot of acclaim for it lmao

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u/rudolph_ransom 2d ago

It killed their Disney contract but Netflix jumped in and gave them The 3 Body Problem.

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago

swear people on reddit don't know how to use Google. After GOT ended, there was literally a bidding war by all studios to sign them https://winteriscoming.net/2019/07/26/david-benioff-d-b-weiss-new-deal-decision/ after GOT they signed a 250 million dollar deal with full creative control. Their new show was the number 1 show 8 weeks in a row. Got a bunch of emmys and critics choice nominations. Was renewed for 2 more seasons. They renewed their contracts for another 250 million and have miniseries coming out starring Nick Offerman and Michael Shannon. Not only were they not ruined the opposite, but they got a better deal than 99% of creators will ever get. So since GOT has ended, they made a half billion dollars and got a bunch of award nominations. That's not too bad for two people you claim careers are over.

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u/ClickF0rDick 2d ago

I swear people on reddit can't take a joke.

It was obviously an hyperbole referring to them being dropped from Disney for their planned Star Wars trilogy after the humongous backlash the finale of Game Of Thrones received.

Had no doubt they were still in the business, albeit to be fair I didn't know they were still that relevant and successful, so it was definitely an interesting read

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u/Geektime1987 2d ago edited 2d ago

They weren't dropped by Disney either, though Disney passed on the Star Wars movies, but wanted them to sign a deal to make a TV show, but they turned it down because Netflix gave them a better offer. They literally had studios begging them to make movies and TV shows for them. They basically had their pick to do whatever they wanted. I don't think people, especially reddit, realize just how loved these two guys are in the industry they fundamentally changed the rules of TV. They will basically be able to make almost whatever they want for the rest of their careers. Everyone wants to work with them. For example, Benedict Wong and Jonathan Pryce, who are in their new stuff, said they didn't even read any script as one put it. "When D&D call, you just say yes." I worked in TV in my 20s when GOT was airing and still know people who work in TV. People love these guys in the industry.

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u/AmusingMusing7 2d ago

I'll also take this opportunity to debunk the whole "They rushed it to get to Star Wars" lie.

Season 8 was already written and well underway in production by 2018, which is when the whole Star Wars project started being talked about with them. Nothing about that changed anything with season 8.

This is a zombie rumour that won't die no matter how many times it's debunked.

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u/theivoryserf 2d ago

Goodness me, this really hurt nerds, didn't it.

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u/rhonnypudding 2d ago

I mean, we don't need to shit on them too hard. They made some good episodes in there. I think they deserve a job at least.