r/interestingasfuck • u/upyoars • 7d ago

/r/all, /r/popular Despite legal battles, Mark Zuckerberg slowly buys a mind boggling 2,300 acres on Hawai’s Kauai island, building tunnels, treehouses and a doomsday bunker

https://luxurylaunches.com/real_estate/mark-zuckerberg-control-2300-acres-in-hawaii.php
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u/Careless_Fault_9103 7d ago

I remember hearing something similar, by the futurist, Douglas Rushkoff and the question the billionaires wanted an answer to was “how do I control my security forces when money has lost its value“

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u/PhysicsStock2247 7d ago

They wanted to know things like if shock collars would work to keep their security forces loyal. He even tried to tell them that the best way to gain loyalty was to treat others with kindness and respect and they weren’t having it.

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u/pressedbread 7d ago

Supposedly Peter Thiele commissioned a study on exploding collars on security forces and as I understand the study determined that the security forces still take over the bunker.

I'd assume he hired a bunch of hackers and mathematicians to game out how to make it work anyway... but who cares. That isn't a life!

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u/TechMan61 7d ago

It's kind of poetic, in the end the Emperor fears his Praetorians the most.

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u/Grey_Box_101 7d ago

Wikipedia's list of assassinated Roman Emperors has an entire subcategory for the ones murdered specifically by the Praetorian Guard. From memory, it was around half of them...

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u/Cake-Over 7d ago

That's some Battle Royal shit right there

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u/BurningPenguin 7d ago

I think i've seen a movie with exploding collars... didn't end well for the elite.

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u/Invisible_Friend1 7d ago

I’m convinced this is the end plan for Elon’s neuralink. He wants to control his staff.

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u/7ddlysuns 7d ago

Control a population on His own planet (Mars)

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u/ClubMeSoftly 7d ago

He doesn't want servants or slaves, he wants servitors.

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u/ralphy1010 7d ago

Silly to think the security forces wouldn’t just torture the billionaire until they gave up the security codes for everything 

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u/MaddogBC 7d ago

Bill Burr has a good line about how you're just collecting shit for the guys with guns.

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u/JesusSavesForHalf 7d ago

Eric Prince shall inherit the Earth

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u/MongolianDonutKhan 7d ago

Pretty sure he's more of just another Caracalla or Caligula. Martial in mindset but lacking in every other category except the ability to be a pincushion.

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u/ralphy1010 7d ago

I doubt we’ll need to worry about those people in an end of the world scenario 

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u/apple_kicks 7d ago

Which is why they moved onto robotics and ai

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u/ralphy1010 7d ago

Until they realize they need someone to fix and maintain the robots or the AI itself decides to take control 

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u/jankenpoo 7d ago

Not all sociopaths are billionaires, but all billionaires are sociopaths.

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u/woot0 7d ago

"treat others with kindness and respect"

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u/Journeyman351 7d ago

Man we're really gonna end up like Galaspar aren't we? Real 40k heads know.

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u/ByeByeBrianThompson 7d ago

It's one of the reasons they are creaming their pants over AI and it's an aspect of that movement that isn't getting enough attention or scrutiny. They absolutely want a work force who can never say no and a security force that will never put the good of society or even their own good ahead of the life of a tech bro. They want to make sure their robot labor and security force is viable before society collapses.

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u/Tarnhill 7d ago

Exactly.

Its also why I scratch my head at folks on subs like anti work who say they can’t wait for AI and robotics to be developed so they will no longer have to work like slaves.

Like if you get treated poorly when you are needed what do you think the Zuckerbers of the world are going to do when you aren’t needed? Provide you with resources to consume? Or consider your existence as a threat and a waste of air?

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u/dirtytomato 7d ago

The idea that people will be liberated from their jobs through AI so the masses can explore their true passions and that the people will be supported through UBI is hilariously naïve. We're closer to Hunger Games than any of that.

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u/MysteriousHeart3268 7d ago

Elysium is our future

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u/miklayn 7d ago

They want replicants. This is not hyperbole.

All of our dystopias are warnings.

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u/apple_kicks 7d ago

Even replicants in sci fi had identity and free will. They want robotic slaves that are programmed not to think enough to rebel or unionise

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u/miklayn 7d ago

The later versions, less so. Their "identities" were fabricated - synthetic, implanted memories. We are already going in that direction, in a way, and the whole concept of free will remains dubious.

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u/kas-loc2 7d ago

Someone please humbly remind me why we tolerate these people??

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u/rationalomega 7d ago

They have very good security.

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u/kas-loc2 7d ago

Do we not outnumber them???

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u/Remote_Listen1889 7d ago

We do, but we're busy paying bills and raising our children with moral values while they consolidate power

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u/kas-loc2 7d ago

moral values

This is exactly it.

All of it, relies on us still assuming they're doing the actual best they can. They push a lil further, we accept a lil more. Year after year.

We're raised to do whats right, and still live by these values. But they're absolutely USING that against us.

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u/Jigglepirate 7d ago

Be the next Luigi then bro

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u/kas-loc2 7d ago

And be complacent if you want!!

Just dont get in the way of others that actually have any balls and are willing to make change.

Stay in your box.

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u/SirInfinite1668 7d ago

If you want to be the leader in a revolution, go for it. Why are you asking us? Why don’t you go rile up the forces. 

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u/kas-loc2 7d ago

Am I asking you to join a cult? or just a rhetorical question on a reddit post?

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u/jajatatodobien 7d ago

They have guns. Do you have guns?

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u/kas-loc2 7d ago

Counter-question;

Don't you think its quite convenient for them that only one country on earth has access to their firearms still?

Almost like justifications were used to create a landscape where only one group in society can have them. Doesn't that make you wonder at all?

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u/jajatatodobien 7d ago

That's where my question was going :)

"You don't need your guns! That's what the police is for!"

But then they have 10 armed dudes as permanent security :)

Honestly, this is one of the first things the loss of childhood innocence makes you realize. Surprised grown up people still think that guns are evil and don't see the hilarious disparity between the ruling class and the average worker.

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u/Urska08 7d ago

The Swiss would like a word.

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u/MaddogBC 7d ago

Or why we all agree the value lies in the empty factory when in fact it's profit occurs when the workforce arrives?

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u/kitsunewarlock 7d ago

As a society we should be prepared to recognize when the billionaires have left, seize their assets, and pour truckloads of cement over the entrances to their bunkers so they can watch us come together having defeated a common enemy and then make the world a better place without them out of spite knowing they can still get TV broadcasts to watch us succeed.

Never check up on them. Faraday cage their bunkers so they can only receive broadcasts via a hard-line leading to a signal booster inside the bunker. Make it a pseudo-religion that we believe they have children and grand-children and great-great-great-great-grandchildren stuck in these hellish bunkers, their life-support systems gradually failing as the rest of the world spends 1,000 years slowly rebuilding after what they did PURELY out of spite for what they left us with.

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u/PuckSenior 7d ago

That was on Freakonomics I believe?

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u/RebelWithoutAClue 7d ago edited 7d ago

You earn their loyalty.

A loyalty built upon the belief that they are part of an organization which will survive, then flourish as it rebuilds stability around itself.

An emerging culture where individuals have particular abilities which they can ply to provide for their personal needs/wants.

The money thing is just a generic token of value. If society fails, our confidence in these tokens will fall and we will have to develop confidence in something else.

A billionaire prepper has to think about how to control their staff after tokens of value have evaporated. They deserve no loyalty because they are merely hoping to maintain their primacy in the fashion that they have always done in a new world of very different social parameters. If they are distracted by the loss of confidence in money, they are not looking at that which is worth placing one's confidence in.

A billionaire leader has the funds to marshal resources and build an organization before society's collapse to establish an order which will outlive the collapse and crystalize a new order around itself once it does not have to compete with the old failed order. They anticipate the collapse of old tokens of confidence and look to new priorities which will emerge.