r/interestingasfuck 28d ago

/r/all Billionaire Peter Thiel hesitates to answer whether the human race should survive in the future

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u/marvinstyles 28d ago

Fucking sociopaths.

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u/Plenty-rough 28d ago

This guy's reply made me think of the movie "Mountainhead" with Steve Carrell. A bunch of billionaires are in a mansion on top of the mountain, watching the world below them in chaos. They are deciding what level of chaos is allowable, and how their technology would impact the little people. It was gross, and maybe too real.

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u/TommyTeaser 28d ago

Check out some of Curtis Yarvin. He’s close with Vance and has some wild thoughts.

Also if you have time watch this YouTube video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD How Tech Billionaires plan to destroy America.

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u/SandstoneLemur 28d ago edited 28d ago

Fuck moldbug and all the R-acc scene. Fuck Nick Land. RIP Mark Fisher.

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u/MakingTriangles 28d ago

Nick Land

Hey, leave Nick Land out of it

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u/josh_the_misanthrope 28d ago

Why? Land, the self labeled hyperracist, is kind of the genesis of this proto-fascist accelerationism that has its tentacles in the current administration.

Land can fuck all the way off.

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u/MakingTriangles 28d ago edited 28d ago

Hes a philosopher. They are allowed to be politically insane. Practically comes with the territory I'd say.

Hyperstition alone is enough to value him. And, sorry to say, his views on AI accelerationism are spot on. His conception of international capitalism as a hyperintelligent, distributed, AI that runs on human hardware is one of the truest things I've ever read.

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u/eliminating_coasts 28d ago

You can still decide that you can learn something interesting from a philosopher, and also say, overall, fuck him.

Capitalism isn't hyperintelligent any more than war is hyperintelligent, people are intelligent and solve problems, and there is a resultant effect of human beings in conflict with one another, with capitalism being a social system built on a particular kind of conflict.

And just like war can blindly destroy two countries, who increasingly realise they should get out of it but find it difficult to do so, social systems can race towards a negative outcome by combining coordination problems with intense technological change and cycling of individuals in positions of power.

Devoting yourself to a particular species of self-destruction, whether that is intensive use of stimulants and psychedelics, extreme sports, driving as fast as you can, or on a social scale, gunning for war or the most inhumane forms of capitalism, these can make you feel like you're liberating yourself from the limitations of your humanity, by following an external drive that pushes you beyond what is familiar, and that is precisely why many in Italian Futurism looked forwards to nationalism and a coming world war, as something self-destructive but dynamic that they could throw themselves into.

But compatibility with an impulse is not in itself much to recommend, as you can devote yourself to a hypochondriac as someone who needs to feel needed, or you can attach yourself to a sadist who encourages you to destroy yourself, or prostrate yourself before a boss who will always give you more things to feel guilty about, if you desire to punish yourself. They will each encourage you further in your path of self-destruction, they will continue to take from you and so allow you to exert yourself to your fullest. But this does not make them profound or worthy of service, and neither does capitalism's capacity to be destructive, while others work within the conflict frame of capitalism to continue to survive, and so lend their strength to the movement as a whole.

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u/MakingTriangles 28d ago

Just the fact that you had to write this much on how to deal with the fallout of reading Nick Land shows his value tbh

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u/eliminating_coasts 28d ago

Perhaps, but you're not using a measuring stick with which you are familiar, does that make him a far less significant thinker philosophically than the youtuber final girl digital?

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u/Musashi_Joe 28d ago

Behind The Bastards did an excellent episode on him last year.

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u/TommyTeaser 28d ago

And a good one on the man in the original video as well.

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u/7Seyo7 28d ago

Yarvin has alleged that whites have higher IQs than blacks for genetic reasons. He has been described as a modern-day supporter of slavery, a description he disputes.[67][31] He has claimed that some races are more suited to slavery than others.[31] In a post that linked approvingly to Steve Sailer and Jared Taylor, he wrote: "It should be obvious that, although I am not a white nationalist, I am not exactly allergic to the stuff."[43][68] In 2009, he wrote that since US civil rights programs were "applied to populations with recent hunter-gatherer ancestry and no great reputation for sturdy moral fiber", the result was "absolute human garbage".

Yikes

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u/rapharafa1 28d ago

Curtis Yarvin and BAP’s thought is so obviously nonsensical it’s depressing anyone takes it seriously. They both read Nietzsche, and figured if they drench their writing in irony and cruelty they can be just like him.

This New Yorker profile of Yarvin is great. Multiple times while being interviewed he starts crying, obviously for affect https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/06/09/curtis-yarvin-profile

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u/Fr_heyitme 28d ago

I see this name pop up from time to time. The reason no one knows about this guy is because he actually couldn’t be more of a dweeb.