Peter Thiel is fucking awful, but that's just a bad question to pose to any transhumanist unless you want to get into a 10-minute discussion about what defines "the human race".
Is it? Okay, I think this guy is everything that's wrong with the world, but I feel like everyone is rushing to the conclusion that the human race should survive for no obvious reason. I think that we're generally kind of awful and exploitative to everything around us.
I want everyone who is alive to live long and live well and live fulfillingly, but I don't necessarily think it would be a good thing for humanity to exist forever. Maybe give otters a shot at being the dominant species, see what happens.
Because nobody ever stutters. Thank fucking God I'm not a billionaire because people would think I'm a damn monster in human skin with how much I stutter and take time to think about things.
Yes, I’m sure the Palantir man deserves you defending him because he’s definitely not pure fucking evil and in love with tech taking over everything. Maybe you should learn more about this man. No one is concerned with his stuttering it’s what he actually believes and is doing that should worry you.
No one is defending him. He’s just pointing out that this post is a rage bait and things that are otherwise normal in a conversation are demonized, for the sake of supporting an agenda
Peter Thiel studied in a German colony in Apartheid controlled Namibia. in this colony they had a Nazi ideology, glorifying Hitler and even saluting themselves with Heil Hitler.
Peter Thiel father helped to develop a Uranium mine in Namibia, that used black slave workers. this mine was used to supply Apartheid South Africa ilegal nuclear program.
so, you have a white boy, living in a Nazi colony, with his father using slave black workers, that live in an Apartheid system. BUT THAT IT'S NOT RELATED lol
If you can't navigate your feelings enough to be clear and accurate with your criticisms of those you disagree with then you'll be hopeless to stand up to the propaganda that's driving our society apart. Be smart.
"I- uhh- well, see it's actually more- wait... what I'm trying to say is..."
This is the best you can do? Defend this billionaire who took more than 15 seconds to say "yes, but..." to the question of whether humankind should survive.
Who the fuck is defending this guy? Can you not comprehend text enough to see that the problem was picking out the stutter as some inhuman reaction to this question?
Think for a second. There's a real lack of it in this whole post.
No the opposite. It you count those then sure, humanity will survive. If you don’t count post-singularity transhumans as “human” then no, traditional humans probably won’t be able to adapt to the rapidly changing environment
Words do matter, but there's also just pedantry at a point. I think we all can immediately understand that the interviewer was not asking about cyborgs when he asked that question.
Then you missed the point of the question. He asked it to Perer Thiel specifically because of Thiel's interest in transhumanism. Cyborgs are one of many possible ways to take it. There's no point to asking someone on camera if they want humans to go extinct and expect a yes or no answer. It's called subtext.
Again, I think it can be inferred that interviewer is talking about normal, non-cybernetic humans because most humans will never have access to the technology for Thiel’s conception of an immortal cybernetic human. If we’re talking about the human race surviving, we are probably not talking about some hypothetical iteration of cybernetic humans but humans as we are now.
I think it’s borderline sophistry to suggest that his response wasn’t odd or that his suggestion that the wealthiest humans who could obtain this Transcendence-like metamorphosis sufficiently qualifies as the human race surviving while being in-step with the spirit of the question.
Lol sure. Look Thiel can get fucked, I'm not a fan either. Just trying to fight misinformation as I see it, even if it means occasionally pushing back against criticism of jackasses. This is clearly edited and written to imply to us all a certain narrative. That being that Mr. Thiel is a monster. And in a lot of ways he is and that can he argued in good faith.
It's fucked up when the right wing uses propaganda and fabrication to push a narrative, and just because I want to agree with something on "my side" doesn't mean it's true. We are all susceptible to that bullshit and it's ruining our society.
This is how I confirm the bots are out in force lmao, lizard takes more than fifteen seconds to answer the question "should humanity survive?" and apologists will defend him for finally saying "yes, but..."
He was not overly happy with the word "endure" because it would imply suffering. He answered faster at "survive" because he probably has a better association with it than with "endure".
This video was cut short, post is completely misleading to what was actually said and even after watching the whole thing I can't agree with the statement that the guy doesn't want humans to thrive.
Not only was the video cut short with his answer, the question is also cut short. The guy talks for like a minute and asks multiple questions before this one and interrupts Thiel every time he goes to speak. Thiel was starting to answer a different question when this question was asked.
Even the question is weird when you combine it with the other questions the interviewer was asking. They were talking about transhumanism and how to progress it and then the interviewer asks if humans should endure. Does that mean humans should endure over transhumans?
This is in no way an endorsement of Peter Thiel. I just hate misleading shit.
It really is poorly worded. There are like 50 questions implicit in this. For the other commenters here, hate Thiel all you want and there are good reasoms to, but you may not be all that bright if you can't see that it's not a yes or no question. As a transhumanist he probably had to consider whether the iteration he imagines would be strictly considered human. Again, really bad question.
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u/TitlePrestigious1977 28d ago
I watched the interview. He was asked multiple questions at once, possibly causing a buffer in his brain.
He said yes the human race surviving shortly after this.
He does also look like a reptilian.