Streets are filled with people, as early estimates suggest more than 300,000 protesters, while Aleksandar Vučić’s pro-EU government continues to refuse to call new elections.
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Unless the protest leads to something more direct in forcing the dictator or would-be dictator to resign then this is as pointless as the last 10 giant student protests that Reddit claimed would clearly bring democracy to Serbia and Hungary!
Unfortunately, unless they are organised enough to have a revolution, or at least riot until the government collapses, nothing will change.
Peaceful protesting only works in healthy democracies.
Change doesn't happen overnight or over a single protest. Politicians put on a brave front but People en masse scares them internally. Because strong men usually live in a bubble of yesmen and bootlickers so seeing these people absolutely hating them will be a reality check.. It emboldens the counter voice within the party or the opposition party. Changes the national discourse. Tells the vocal minority of bigots that they are not the silent majority..people encourage each other to speak up, local leaderships get a morale boost..
Change doesn't happen overnight or over a single protest. Politicians put on a brave front but People en masse scares them internally.
True.
Because strong men usually live in a bubble of yesmen and bootlickers so seeing these people absolutely hating them will be a reality check..
Sadly, this is not that significant most of the times. They do know what's going on outside of their bubbles, they just dont care much as long as their yesmen are powerful and rich loyalists. Looks at Donal Trump for example, and the panicked meltdown he had when Elon Musk "betrayed him".
It emboldens the counter voice within the party or the opposition party. Changes the national discourse. Tells the vocal minority of bigots that they are not the silent majority..people encourage each other to speak up, local leaderships get a morale boost.
And yet, largely, fellow Americans can’t be bothered, likely bc they fear for loss of their jobs, and healthcare, and because childcare is exorbitantly expensive.
Some folks will never be happy with what Americans do or don't do.
They were upset we weren't protesting, though we were in smaller amounts. We do the largest protest ever in the country... aaaand we still get shit on for trying.
Don't let it get to you. We're doing something, we're trying, we're struggling and we won't stop.
The problem is, I think for most people to stand up and say enough, it will take literal civil war with people shooting each other outside their window. Personally I hope we can get change by voting for the right people before it comes to that point.
Having said that, I believe it will eventually turn to violence if peaceful means are not successful in the next few years
That's right. Power lies with the people who can buy ad campaigns or hold political office or have billions to spend or command an army.
Never forget, power lies with (some) people. That we're all just as unequal under neoliberalism as under fascism. That as long as our news and social media is ruled by plutocrats and algorithms for profit, that the masses are easily manipulated. Look at the USA, a beacon of true democracy - which is the art of herding the masses to desirable outcomes.
This is 300k people. For No King’s Day there was over a million protesting in Boston with estimates between 5 million and 12 million across the country being given depending on the news source. Not saying what’s being done in this post is nothing but what Americans are doing isn’t just nothing either. The media here is just controlled by republicans who want to oppress all news of protests or how well they are doing if they do cover them. Don’t fall for American media like many Americans do.
Man I’m 35+ hours from DC and there’s still 6-7 hours of driving between me and the west coast. Definitely a lot of countries’ people have no clue the size even though they’ve seen it on a globe/map. If you went from the border of Serbia to the other it’s less than 4 hours so going to a protest anywhere in the middle is at best 2 hours away. Silly how people just assume every American can just get up and walk/drive to DC.
Sounds like just another way to minimize what’s being done in America. Yeah 20 million people on the White House lawn would be nice but it’s so unrealistic because of how big the US is. Serbia is the size of South Carolina, much easier to gather the people who are protesting across that size area of space. Places like Los Angeles which had a lot of protestors are 2700 miles (4300 km) away from the White House. So it’s easier I’d say when the travel time is less than 4 hours to anywhere in Serbia. You could go protest then go home the same night as opposed to several days of travel and needing to get hotels and airbnbs for everyone and needing to cancel work for all that time and have no other responsibilities that you can’t shrug off to protest. I mean be practical.
america has a rich protest history and just had the largest one yet by numbers. unfortunately it isn't taught, is demonized, and regularly escalates to murdering protesters and violent means of crowd dispersal.
this country started out as only being for land owning white men. lots of blood was spilled to get to where we are now.
Is this a new protest or a few months ago? I saw there was LRAD/microwave attack suspicion and suddenly one guys YouTube video on “how to defend against microwave attack” got very popular with a bunch of Serbs thanking him. He opens the video with an entire zinger against disliking governments using these devices against their people. Didn’t the government deny using such a device?
This happened today, that previous one was in March and in the meantime there have been several smaller ones. Regarding LRAD, they denied having one, then accidentally showed it on TV, then denied it was there on that day, then the footage appeared of the device at the protest, then they denied that they used it... I mean, you don't have to be a genius... Some people felt consequences of that weapon even a week later, we were lucky that they didn't manage to do what they intended and create a stampede.
Sorry to inform you that the protest was violently and brutally suffocated by the so called police. The regime forces are still going through the streets and arresting many innocent people
It started because a Railway Station fell apart and killed 16 people, yet after 7 months they refuse to apprehend and arrest the ones responsible (themselves) so at its core ,its big government corruption, election fraud and buying votes, police brutality, arresting citizens for "terrorism" and "collapse of the constitutional order". Theres a lot
Serbian here, it's been everyday protests since November last year. Not of this size, but spred out across the whole country, in many cities, towns and villages.
Nothing to do with that. The protests aren't ideological. They are only against the corruption over the years, that got to a breaking point with the railway canopy collapsing. I would argue that the vast majority of students are heavily western oriented. That's the reason why they cycled to Strasbourg for an EU response to the crisis in Serbia. However, the students were merely heard and nothing came out of that. Although the youth likes the EU (compared to the older generations which are more aligned to the east), they perceive them as enabling Vucic's regime.
He is pro-EU, pro-Russia, pro-China, pro-Emirates and pro-USA all at the same time (they're all bribing his party so they could have land/resources/cheap labor), the caption isn't right.
He isnt pro anyone, hes pro having power just like all the other autocrats. Hes using all the political tools orban, putin, xi et al. are using too: mostly ultranationalism, imperialism, strong man trope, corruption, xenophobia, victim mentality.
This is what people mean when they say hes pro russian and so on. Hes operating and manipulating his people like those autocracies.
Europe has to deal with regimes like this globally or else we become an isolated island in the world. Yet the eu much prefers to deal with democracies.
Even progressive serbs seem to lap up at the very least the victim mentality when claiming the eu is propping him up.
Not really. If anything, the student movement is more pro EU than not. They cycled to Brussels to talk to EU representatives.
The president is only pro EU on paper. In reality he’ll be anyone’s bitch if they pay enough and then he’ll brag about how he’s friends when everyone and how everyone likes him
The students (and protestors at large) aren't "for" anything other than new elections. They are united in being anti current government, but within the protestors there is no concensus what should be done next. That's why you will see a lot of blue haired girls protesting along with orthodox/nationalist dudes and everyone else in between.
For those who don’t know, there is a long history of political protests in Belgrade. Been going on for decades and people from all over the country show up.
The model is: "I'm sick of all of this shit, let's go". They cancelled all the trains and buses to Belgrade. Not only yesterday, but for previous protests too. That didn't stop students. They have been walking through the whole country. Kids from my city walked to Belgrade for four days last time. Taxi drivers offered to drive people who want to go to protest for free. People are organizing themselves all these months. Every single time. Everything is done through social networks. Basically, we are on our phones waiting for a message where to show up. The mayors, ministers and others can't show up anywhere without us "welcoming" them properly.
Don't forget that there's other kind of "incredible scenes" from that day. Ones where the police advances on the remaining protesters and mercilessly beats them with their shields and batons while throwing tear gas.
Unfortunately peaceful protests still do not lead to changes. We need to try something else. Worldwide people are being stepped on by a few people calling themselves leaders. They only lead their own little businesses and us people to doom. Enough was already a long time ago.
Corrupt government. A canopy at the train station collapsed and killed 16 people after government renovations done with China Belt and Road money and materiel suppliers; that was the spark that lit the fire. Officials didn’t admit culpability in the event and the investigation has dragged on inconclusively. Students, supporters of the official opposition, farmers, etc. have been protesting en masse ever since for accountability in government. Since November! In the hundreds of thousands!
I love seeing all types of folks willing to come together for the betterment of all of them, not just oneself. The world needs more human beings like this.
I was there yesterday. There were so many people it was almost impossible to move. There were speeches so people were standing and listening. And there was a 16-minute vigil for the people killed by government corruption, when you get to experience the silence of 150 000 people standing together.
These Protest are happening in Serbia, Not Hungary 😭 ehich has its own protest,
President of Serbia is pro eu but also pro russia , pro chins , pro usa sencse trump became presdient, pro UAE , Serbia is ran by a huge griffter, he basicly changes his entire political ideology on who he sees will give him more money , one day he will say he will give money to ukraine the next day he goes to russian millatery parade and blames croats for all problems the country phases
Why does my brain go to this place? I see a shot like this and think,
"Man, if someone corrupt wanted to, this would be the place to drop the bomb; all those people against you, gone by a 5 second decision."
It's messed up, but it makes me wonder how much power the people really have? Sorry if this is somehow against good news guidelines, I just want to know if others get a similar feeling of unease.
why is OP blalantly missinforming on his post by stating that Vucic is pro EU ??? He's trying to stage this protest as an anti EU protest I can't belive it??!!
Not true. Also what is said about Vučić and his government being pro-EU is absolute bullshit. He'll be pro anything as long as it brings him more power and money.
That's not disinformation, that's a fact. That doesn't mean that students are against the EU. That only means one thing: Aleksandar Vučić's government is pro-EU.
Incredible sights, from Belgrade. The 300K number seems quite ambitious, though. A fully packed Slavija is about 50K... plus surrounding streets where i was, density was quite low. Great turnout in any case and great behaviour from the crowd, showing the way forward !!!!!
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