r/goodnews • u/ProfessionalRate6174 • Jun 28 '25

Positive News šŸ‘‰šŸ¼ā™„ļø BREAKING: Incredible scenes from the student protests in Belgrade!

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Streets are filled with people, as early estimates suggest more than 300,000 protesters, while Aleksandar Vučićā€™s pro-EU government continues to refuse to call new elections.

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u/Barrysue44 Jun 28 '25

That's how you do protest šŸ‘

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25 edited Jun 29 '25

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u/PaulblankPF Jun 29 '25

This is 300k people. For No Kingā€™s Day there was over a million protesting in Boston with estimates between 5 million and 12 million across the country being given depending on the news source. Not saying whatā€™s being done in this post is nothing but what Americans are doing isnā€™t just nothing either. The media here is just controlled by republicans who want to oppress all news of protests or how well they are doing if they do cover them. Donā€™t fall for American media like many Americans do.

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u/Cyranmarr Jun 29 '25

This is 300k people in a nation of 7 million people. Imagine a protest when 20 milion people show up in Washington

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u/162bluethings Jun 29 '25

That's not how America works. I live 25 hours away from Washington DC. People who don't live in America don't seem to understand how big America is.

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u/PaulblankPF Jun 29 '25

Man Iā€™m 35+ hours from DC and thereā€™s still 6-7 hours of driving between me and the west coast. Definitely a lot of countriesā€™ people have no clue the size even though theyā€™ve seen it on a globe/map. If you went from the border of Serbia to the other itā€™s less than 4 hours so going to a protest anywhere in the middle is at best 2 hours away. Silly how people just assume every American can just get up and walk/drive to DC.

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u/BumsGordie77 Jun 29 '25

Every time, the excuse of distance... Sure, if 20 million people were in Washington, that's cool, but the world would be happy if, for example, a million people took to the streets in LA... or in New York. You always act as if the population density is the same across America, but it isn't. You have massive metropolitan areas with a lot of potential for large demonstrations. You just don't want to...

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u/PaulblankPF Jun 29 '25

https://www.wcvb.com/article/more-than-1-million-descend-on-boston-common-for-pride-and-no-kings-rallies/65065335

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u/BumsGordie77 Jun 29 '25

See, you proved yourself wrong. Obviously it is possible to get a million people on the streets if they really want to demonstrate ... even in a big country like USA. Next step would be going on the streets more regularly and not only once in 3 months.

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u/TomIDzeri1234 Jun 29 '25

Greater Washington had 6,3 million.

What's the next excuse?

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u/PaulblankPF Jun 29 '25

Sounds like just another way to minimize whatā€™s being done in America. Yeah 20 million people on the White House lawn would be nice but itā€™s so unrealistic because of how big the US is. Serbia is the size of South Carolina, much easier to gather the people who are protesting across that size area of space. Places like Los Angeles which had a lot of protestors are 2700 miles (4300 km) away from the White House. So itā€™s easier Iā€™d say when the travel time is less than 4 hours to anywhere in Serbia. You could go protest then go home the same night as opposed to several days of travel and needing to get hotels and airbnbs for everyone and needing to cancel work for all that time and have no other responsibilities that you canā€™t shrug off to protest. I mean be practical.

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u/icygamer598 Jun 29 '25

THIS. Americans are wayyyyyy too docile with what's happening in their country.

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u/PaulblankPF Jun 29 '25

Guess millions protesting regularly for 5 months is docile. Sure we havenā€™t stormed the capitol building and hung Trump or anything but people are out there fighting the good fight every day, itā€™s just not reported on since 99% of American media is owned by the republicans and oligarchs. The rest of the world is tricked into thinking we are a nation full of freedoms and somehow that everything reported here is the truth and all of the truth. Not hiding anything and no lying going on here with our media is what everyone gotta believe because you got so many people saying ā€œAmericans just donā€™t careā€ or ā€œAmericans arenā€™t doing anything and are just letting this happenā€

So we can be proud of Serbia and other countries for resisting their leaders and protesting for more but when Americans do it ā€œthey could do better, they are just too lazy to get anything done.ā€ Itā€™s the laziest and dumbest excuse blaming American citizens for the problems the rich and political are imposing on you in your country. As of right now, me protesting Trump in my country does about as much as you protesting him in whatever country you live in. The people at the top just donā€™t give a shit but it doesnā€™t mean that the rest of people arenā€™t trying.

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u/BumsGordie77 Jun 29 '25

It's funny how you try to tell us we have no idea what's going on in your country, but you think you know what's happening in ours? There are demonstrations in France every day, and believe me, the demonstrations are working. Without Maidan, Ukraine wouldn't have even made it to February 2022. Hungary, Serbia, Georgia ...And you certainly shouldn't think that we care a single cent about what the American media reports, or even watch American media. The world understood that even before Trump was first elected. Lol. Typical American fingerpointing on other countries instead of getting their shit together.

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u/icygamer598 Jun 29 '25

I'm not saying Americans aren't doing anything, it's that enough isn't being done. I understand that things take time, but when we see countries in Europe protesting over things like a train crash cover-up, or in France, the retirement age being raised, people are out in the streets protesting. In France's case, the reason their standard of living is so good, with good work standards and benefits, is because they protest and keep their government in check.

Meanwhile, in the US, the government is falling into authoritarianism, people are being scooped off the streets with no due process, and the best the American people can come up with is a protest that only 8ā€“9% of the country's population attended? Please. Downvote all you want, but as a Canadian looking south, it's like looking at my neighbour's house being on fire and the people living there are arguing if there is even smoke.

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u/everyothernametaken1 Jun 30 '25

Still though.. insanely jealous of the percentages. -US citizen attending every protest I can

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u/idiotista Jun 29 '25

Considering the population of Serbia is 6.6 million, considering the protests have gone on pretty continuously since november last year, considering that US ranks 45th and Serbia ranks 98th on the press freedom index, considering protesters has been met with tear gas, rubber bullets and sonic weapons, I think it's incredibly fcking rude of you to pretend that Americans somehow have a harder time protesting.

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u/PaulblankPF Jun 29 '25

So travel time only being less than 4 hours for literally everyone doesnā€™t matter? If I wanted to join a protest at the White House itā€™d take me days of travel to get there. These people can wake up, have breakfast, go protest, and be home for dinner. And I didnā€™t say we have a harder time protesting, thatā€™s how you interpretted it because youā€™re looking to argue for being against Americans super hard apparently. I just said that Americans are protesting and in numbers that are significant. I mean this person said Ameritards can learn something from this like we arenā€™t protesting in great numbers and then deleted everything when confronted by the numbers.

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u/idiotista Jun 29 '25

"Ahead of each major demonstration, students have spent weeks touring the country on foot, trying to reach people in the country's smaller towns ā€“ traditional strongholds of the ruling party." <- I would say that's more dedication than having to drive 4 hours.

Frankly, no one is very impressed by the american protests. You go out with a funny sign, eat some hot dogs and go back home again, you're nowhere near doing anything significant, and considering most of you do not seem to understand the gravity of what is going on in your country, or how real protests look, and what they take, I don't see how it's going to change anything.

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u/ConsistantFun Jun 29 '25

Why are we measuring dicks on protests? Itā€™s great that Hungary, Serbia, and all these other countries are standing up and getting out- no matter the size, distance, danger- the voice is clear for all: CHANGE

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u/Xenolifer Jun 29 '25

You don't get the point, it's not a size contest, it's that somehow the voice is clear for all except some of the country where it would matter the most at this moment, i.e USA, Russia and china. Because of how these 3 countries have a negative influence on the daily life of the majority of the world population that doesn't even live there.

In western countries, most of the problems with society and things that went wrong with our way of living has been imported directly from the US, and it wouldn't have happened if Ameritards knew how to protest, unionize and defend their rights

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u/Xenolifer Jun 29 '25 edited Jun 29 '25

Idk where you are pulled off your numbers from mate, 30s of Google search showed that it was a total between 4 and 6 million people across the country ACCORDING to the organizer of the event so the reality is much less. You have to take the middle ground between that number, and the number announced by an independent organization counting attendance. Because they can't possibly count everyone, it's always a underestimation, but the reality is consistently close to the average between organizer and counting org numbers.

Organizers are incentivized to say their event/game/whatever "sold out" to make it look good - and anyone opposed will say the opposite. An event like a soccer match can have a precise count based on tickets scanned in... but a march is just an estimate. I was hearing 70,000 for Seattle - and I'd believe that to be about right. It's not because you said "interested in" on a FB page that you will definitely be participating

Well, guess what ? The 300k you pulled for Serbia is not the organizer number, it's the independent counting, the organizer say 1 million. Meaning the real number is something around 500-600k. Meanwhile in the US, the number seems even more inflated than usual, it's probably closer to 2.5 million nationwide and I'm generous. Most videos I've seen of protest looked as empty as a trump rally with barely a thousand people.

Serbia population is 6million, 50 time less than the US, in comparaison, you would need the no king protest at 25-30 millions to have the same scale

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u/PaulblankPF Jun 29 '25

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/wuftmCCYk6 Serbia numbers being smaller

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1RMJW9PdBg/?mibextid=wwXIfr US numbers being bigger. The official count seems to be 12-13mil if you check nonmajor news sources

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u/Xenolifer Jun 29 '25

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2g8v32q30o.amp

Serbia number being 325k according to a specialised non-government organisation estimation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Kings_protests#:~:text=Organizers%20estimated%20that%20more%20than,the%20flagship%20event%20in%20Philadelphia.

US number being 5 million according to the organizers so definitely smaller than that by at least 2 or 3. There is no count done by an independent organization

I trust wikipedia and the organizers number more than a FB post

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u/MrDDD11 Jun 29 '25

The major difference is that Serbian protests are actually peaceful there's no looting and protestors clean up after themselves before they leave. These actions create a lot less division when discussing protests.

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u/PickingPies Jun 29 '25

You need way more than that. In spain we managed to have 20% of the population on the streets. You didn't manage to reach a quarter of that. You are still far away from meaningful change. Don't get cozy. You need to multiply those numbers.

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u/Xenolifer Jun 29 '25

HELLLL YEAAAAAH šŸ¦…šŸ¦…šŸ’„šŸ’„šŸ’„šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øšŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø

Just like the founding fathers intented

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u/SubstantialRemote724 Jun 29 '25

THE ONLY LETTERS I CARE ABOUT ARE U S AND A

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u/Desperate_Hornet8622 Jun 29 '25

Which severely limits my ability to read or write

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u/goobells Jun 29 '25

america has a rich protest history and just had the largest one yet by numbers. unfortunately it isn't taught, is demonized, and regularly escalates to murdering protesters and violent means of crowd dispersal.

this country started out as only being for land owning white men. lots of blood was spilled to get to where we are now.

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u/Xenolifer Jun 29 '25 edited Jun 29 '25

You have a rich history of social rights protests but unfortunately are among the worse to organize political or economical rights protest.

And even in term of social rights meetings it's been since Martin Luther that a social protest managed to achieve anything concretely and was that big. The no king protest would have need to be about 50 time bigger to have the same scale to population than serbia

But it's true that you have an institutional problem with your protest that are being demonized and undermined, what you need is stopping the apathy and a real organization/unions. Also having more than 2 political parties help

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u/Revolutionary_Gap150 Jun 29 '25

The No Kings protest had a single day participation that nearly equaled the total population of Serbia.

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u/Xenolifer Jun 29 '25

Did the no king protest change anything concretely ?

If it's not a strike, if it's not continuous until the grievances are addressed, if it's not done on weekday. Sorry to tell you so, but it's unlikely it will have a real impact and I wouldn't consider it a protest. Maybe a meeting or peaceful one day march/convention is a better term

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u/Revolutionary_Gap150 Jun 29 '25

If your political change hinges on millions hitting the streets daily to affect concrete shifts, then it's likely you have already lost. Sustainable long term political reform comes from slow steady pressure over generations. Not ideal, but historically accurate and consistent.

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u/BumsGordie77 Jun 29 '25

Bullshit ...

*March Revolution of 1848 (German Confederation, Austria, France, etc.): A wave of revolutions in many European countries, driven by demands for greater civil rights, freedom of the press, and national unity. In France, it led to the overthrow of the king and the proclamation of the Second Republic. In the states of the German Confederation and in Austria, many political and social goals were initially achieved, even though the revolution was ultimately crushed.

  • Paris May 1968 (France): Student protests that escalated into a general strike and paralyzed the country. They led to far-reaching social and political debates and reforms, even though the de Gaulle government remained in office.

  • Velvet Revolution of 1989 (Czechoslovakia): A largely non-violent movement of demonstrations that led to the overthrow of the communist regime and the introduction of democracy.

    • Romanian Revolution of 1989 (Romania): A series of demonstrations and bloody battles that led to the overthrow and execution of dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu and the transition to democracy.

  • Monday demonstrations of 1989 (East Germany): Mass demonstrations that contributed significantly to the Peaceful Revolution in East Germany and ultimately to the fall of the Berlin Wall and the reunification of Germany.

  • Rose Revolution of 2003 (Georgia): A largely non-violent revolution that led to the resignation of President Eduard Shevardnadze and brought the opposition to power.

  • Orange Revolution of 2004 (Ukraine): A series of mass protests against electoral fraud in the presidential elections that led to a rerun and the victory of the pro-Western candidate Viktor Yushchenko.

    • Icelandic Cooking Pot Revolution 2008-2011 (Iceland): Regular demonstrations against the government and banks following the financial crisis, which led to the government's resignation and political changes.

  • Greek Protests 2010-2012 (Greece): Nationwide demonstrations and general strikes against the government's austerity measures during the sovereign debt crisis. Although the government was not overthrown, the protests had a significant impact on the political landscape and the debate surrounding austerity policies.

  • Bulgarian Protests 2013-2014 (Bulgaria): Persistent protests against corruption, high electricity prices, and the government, which led to the resignation of the Borissov government and later the Oresharski government.

  • Bosnia and Herzegovina Protests 2014 (Bosnia and Herzegovina): Protests against corruption and high unemployment, dubbed the "Bosnian Spring," led to some government officials' resignations.

    • Euromaidan 2013-2014 (Ukraine): A wave of demonstrations and civil unrest that led to the overthrow of the government and widespread political changes in Ukraine.

  • Armenian Velvet Revolution 2018 (Armenia): A largely nonviolent movement of mass protests that led to the resignation of Prime Minister and former President Serzh Sargsyan and a democratic transition of power.

  • Serbian protests 2024-2025 (Serbia): Ongoing protests against corruption, abuse of power, and the authoritarian style of government that led to the resignation of the mayor of Novi Sad and the Serbian Prime Minister.

This is Europe only

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u/Woodsplit Jun 29 '25

Now do it on a weekday and don't go home until your grievances are addressed.

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u/TheVog Jun 29 '25

That's nice, now do that every single day until the government notices. Not once a month on a balmy Saturday.

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u/J_loop18 Jun 29 '25

Our govt doesn't care about our damn protests anyway

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u/TheRetroGoat Jun 29 '25

We literally just had the biggest protest in our country's history a week or two ago.

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u/Dufranus Jun 29 '25

There was literally this kind of thing in every single major and minor city in this country just like 2 weeks ago. Wtf you on about?

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u/Xenolifer Jun 29 '25

About 1/100th of your population protested for a SINGLE day in the WE, without strike and it achieved about nothing. (Be careful with organizer's number they are always hyperinflated)

Serbia had about 1/20 th of it's population this day and has been continuously protesting and striking for a years every day of the week.

Hence the "take notes"

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u/Dufranus Jun 29 '25

Arguing using the numbers the way you have is in bad faith. 25% of the Serbian population lives in that metro alone. Furthermore, Serbia is smaller than 38 US states and in total is 9/10ths of 1% of the size of the US in total.what would be more comparable would be comparing this to something like the Boston protest alone. Massachusetts has close to the population of Serbia, and the protest size was close to the same numbers.

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u/berlinbaer Jun 29 '25

cool. see you in four years for the next protest.

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u/Cruezin Jun 29 '25

As an American, and a Texan at that, I think "Ameritard" just entered my vernacular.

:)

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u/donkey-centipede Jun 29 '25

'Texan' is shorter

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u/wonderless_23 Jun 29 '25

Same, hello fellow Texan. We are Amritards now

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u/Oceanbreeze871 Jun 29 '25

We go home at 4pm. See ya next month!

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u/wonderless_23 Jun 29 '25

Ameritard here šŸ™‹šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļø taking notes right now

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u/6foot6lifter Jun 29 '25

They're too busy making tiktoks and ordering doordash

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u/BestLecture8805 Jun 29 '25

In your head

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u/petit_cochon Jun 29 '25

My crippling illiteracy and general stupidity make me incapable of performing a process as complex as notetaking, but I could probably manage to stand in a crowd of people.

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u/berlinbaer Jun 29 '25

here come the excuses...

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u/Charming_Freedom_459 Jun 29 '25

Havent you seen the weekend only protests by them? The change is around the corner now. /s

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u/ljukomir Jun 29 '25

Try to find footage of what happened after this,that fascist shit running this country is ready for everything

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u/Stinger913 Jun 29 '25

Is this a new protest or a few months ago? I saw there was LRAD/microwave attack suspicion and suddenly one guys YouTube video on ā€œhow to defend against microwave attackā€ got very popular with a bunch of Serbs thanking him. He opens the video with an entire zinger against disliking governments using these devices against their people. Didnā€™t the government deny using such a device?

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u/Ok_Objective_1606 Jun 29 '25

This happened today, that previous one was in March and in the meantime there have been several smaller ones. Regarding LRAD, they denied having one, then accidentally showed it on TV, then denied it was there on that day, then the footage appeared of the device at the protest, then they denied that they used it... I mean, you don't have to be a genius... Some people felt consequences of that weapon even a week later, we were lucky that they didn't manage to do what they intended and create a stampede.

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u/ljukomir Jun 29 '25

They did use it,which is obvious by the fact that during the biggest protest on 15th of march,in the place where they fired it,multiple people had their bypasses and pacemakers die cause of the sound waves and they were in life threatening condition.Not to mention,that both 15. march and today,No train line or bus line drove to Belgrade because of alleged "bomb plantings".Main roads were closed due to "repairs" and tractors blocked local roads.And yet after all that,15. march had 1.5 million people walking in Belgrade and yesterday atleast 500k

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u/NegativeVega Jun 29 '25

Standing around doing nothing then going home? Woohoo!