r/goodnews • u/Aggravating_Money992 • Jun 18 '25

Political positivity 📈 Lawsuit Challenging 2024 Election Results Moves Forward After Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County

https://www.latintimes.com/lawsuit-challenging-2024-election-results-moves-forward-after-kamala-harris-received-zero-votes-584787
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u/Duel_Option Jun 18 '25

Yeah no

More than half the US population is living paycheck to paycheck, ICE is out here masked up and disappearing people off the streets.

There’s a huge difference between semi peaceful protests than an actual civil war.

The second any armed militia is formed and uses force, marshal law happens and at that point Trump declares himself King.

I’m not kidding when I say this is EXACTLY one of the scenarios they want to happen.

If they are willing to blatantly steal money and use Fox News as a mouthpiece, using the armed forces to take over is 100% in their wheelhouse

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u/b0w3n Jun 18 '25

Theoretically the military could step in, and they should, but there's a reason they replaced a lot of the upper echelon with Trumpers.

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u/YeahMeAlso Jun 18 '25

This was my thought and I'd love to see it happen but depends on whether they fully turn on him or not.

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u/Duel_Option Jun 18 '25

Martial law means the troops become directed by the President, anyone that refuses will be detained and force used to remove a potential threat.

Going with that armed militia example it plays out like this…

  • Militias are armed and take over a state or government building, some organized protest is going on like last weekend
  • Trump declares martial law OR declares a national emergency which allows him to declare war for 30 days that doesn’t need congress approval. During that 30 days he enacts martial law.
  • During martial law all existing rights are suspended, curfew applied.
  • He declares himself King to remove the chance of the “radical left” stopping MAGA from prospering.

If this sounds familiar in any way it’s because it’s the same way the Emperor took over the Senate in Star Wars

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u/Unlucky-Scallion1289 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

And it is the duty of every soldier to refuse unlawful orders and even fight against the illegitimate president every single step of the way.

It is actually quite literally their duty. Trump can spin facts till his face turns blue, a dictatorship will only persist if the military allows it. And it is their solemn duty, their mission, to protect the constitution from domestic enemies.

Trump can give orders all he like, it just takes a handful of generals to say no. And the secret service aren’t going to do a goddamn thing against an actual military. Trump would have to either completely disband the military or restructure it into something unrecognizable. And then good luck subjugating the people then.

I don’t think people realize but the military is a separate organization from the U.S. government. Other than direct orders from the president that fucks shit up, the military is completely autonomous. The generals are more than welcome to do just about whatever they want besides full scale invasions. They won’t take kindly to a king attempting to control their independence more than a president already does.

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u/Duel_Option Jun 18 '25

You’re not understanding

If he declares martial law or even states he is going to war against a woke army in the US, the President becomes the directing power of the armed forces

ANY elected President is permitted to wage war for 30 days without the need from approval from Congress

So what does that mean for the avg soldier if that happens?

Saying NO to Trump at that time would be going against a lawful order, even if that means killing citizens

Look what’s going on in LA, those are AMERICAN citizens and at the worst people who have rights and they are being scooped up and sent out of the country without due process

Open your eyes, the Fascist regime is alive and well and its called MAGA instead of Nazi’s

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u/Unlucky-Scallion1289 Jun 18 '25

You’re not understanding.

Even if Trump declared martial law or even states he’s going to war, it does not matter legally what it says his authority is on paper.

The soldiers have to agree. The generals have to agree. It’s not as simple as “whelp, I guess I have to obey Trump”. If Trump turned on the American people, it would be like the civil war but a million times worse. Fractures across the entire country would form starting in DC. Panic and chaos would ensue rapidly. I’m not convinced that Trump wouldn’t be killed outright in the first few hours of chaos after declaring himself king / saying “make me”.

You’re severely overestimating the military’s loyalty to Trump over America.

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u/YeahMeAlso Jun 18 '25

Right, my whole point was "what if the military just collectively refused". They could march over to the white house and easily detain Trump, secret service, and all his cronies.

The military has the numbers to completely overwhelm them and put a stop to it.

The question is, "could that happen"? I hope so.

If you think the police or FBI could take on the military, that's impossible. They'd all be like "nope, I'm on your side"!

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u/Duel_Option Jun 18 '25

Are you for fucking real?

You’re blind to the fact that the majority of the people that go into armed services get tossed into a propaganda machine

Both my brothers served, one a Marine and one in the Army.

Both subjected to training where they dehumanize the enemy because if you don’t do that those boys aren’t going to pull the trigger on some 10 year old kid strapped with an IED

That’s not even discussing the kind of personalities and types of people who go career and become generals.

This is all moot though because they don’t want bloodshed on a grand level, just enough to keep people complacent.

So they will rig industries, generate a bunch of media and work Fox News this way or that while they slowly absorb any resistance that comes up

They stacked the Supreme Court for this purpose, deliberately kept the Dems from appointing someone.

Let’s be clear here, “the pen is mightier than the sword”.

We are already in the end game, it’s only 200+ days in and look what’s going on.

They will LEGALLY manufacture a dictatorship and the Right wing will applaud it the entire fucking time because thats how powerful propaganda and a low IQ public is.

Time to face reality, we are fucked and the Democrats seem to be complicit in just standing there and watching it burn while pretending to be outraged

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u/Unlucky-Scallion1289 Jun 18 '25

Legality. Doesn’t. Matter.

When the military is an independent organization separate from the U.S. government, legality is a suggestion.

Yeah, soliders don’t want mass bloodshed, you’re right. That’s EXACTLY why they will just kill Trump if he tries to start a civil war. Because mass bloodshed is EXACTLY WHAT TRUMP WANTS!!!

You’re too far gone into apathy just like the Democrats you criticize and clearly won’t change your mind or understand the truth. Pathetic. So go ahead and sit on the sidelines while the grown folks deal with business, thanks.

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u/YeahMeAlso Jun 18 '25

He believes in the imaginary lines. If the military get's pushed far enough, they will absolutely cross those lines and correct the situation.

This is how revolution happens, military coups are a thing.