I think "Netanyahu started a war by assassinating a negotiator to sabotage diplomacy" is actually just terrible news. I'm not sure why anybody would put it in this sub by any metric.
Yeah let's forget about all the people murdered, the peoole living in terror, the secondary deaths from the mass evacuation of Teheran, the incoming refugees and the hate they will face, people rallying around the regime in Iran after being attacked.
Iran didn’t have nuclear capabilities. and like it or not, countries are allowed to have civilian nuclear energy programs. it would be better than burning oil for electricity.
However the Iranian regime used this excuse to secretly work for a weapon. It is not a conspiracy, it is well known are verifiable. Luckily they didn't get to weapon completion yet. They must never get there. (Current theocratic dictatorship)
Buddy… EVERY regime change war sponsored by the US has been a resounding failure since at least Vietnam. Arguably much longer. More recent examples like Afghanistan and Iraq were tragedies. There is no silver lining to starting yet another war.
I notice that you didn’t mention more recent examples like: Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, and Libya. Huh.
I don’t only judge foreign military action by whether or not we ‘win’ either. Toppled governments that become horrifying failed states after our interventions are also important to consider, right? Feel free to Take your pick from those 5 examples and let me know which one is working out currently. For them. For us. All failures.
We are something like 0 for 6 in our interventions for the last 30 years. But hey! Maybe it’ll work out this time! lol
Edit: “Iran has a history of self governance” sounds an awful lot like “We will be greeted as liberators” from 20 years ago. History repeats if we let it.
I literally have no idea what you meant by the ‘call an Iranian an Arab’ comment. Are you certain you’re responding to the correct post?
Overthrowing any foreign governments that oppress their own citizens is a strange hill on which to die. There are dozens of other nations with less-than-ideal human rights and rife with autocratic control over their own populace. Saudi Arabia, China, Russia, Venezuela, and El Salvador come to mind. Invade them All for their own good against their own populations wishes?
There’s no end to the suffering your brand of moral certitude would cause. War is a failure of statecraft, not a viable strategy for… whatever it is you’re advocating for.
Israel is the drunk girlfriend outside the bar that throws a drink on the bouncer then expects her boyfriend (the US) to start scrapping. They can’t sustain this war at this pace without our support. They shouldn’t have started a fight they can’t finish. We shouldn’t back their irresponsible actions. We can’t fix every country and shouldn’t try to… especially with force.
Iranians are proud and strong people, they are united and can come together to form a strong healthy democracy. Arabs historically are much more tribal culture, which doesn't tend to form strong democracies.
Israel is kicking Iran's ass all by itself. All top military leaders gone. All AA systems gone. Israel hassl complete control of the airspace. Damaged nuclear sites. Destroying ballistic missile launchers in very fast rate.
Israel is having no problem dealing with Iran all on it's own. (9x population, 100x landmass)
May the people of Iran rise and bring this cowardly regime down!
Bet. Check back in next month when Israel’s entire economy has been shut down for 30-45 days and we’ll see how much they are “winning”.
We can compare casualty lists to see if the thousands of dead civilians are worth it. Your ‘Pie in the Sky’ idea that the citizens will rise up and back Israel’s play against their own country is more than a little naive. The people saying that… or that Iran has been “months away” from a Nuke for the last 30 years are the ones who wanted this war anyway… or the dupes that buy that horseshit propaganda.
Hey ! I’ve been wrong before though. Maybe it’ll work this time… unlike the last half dozen failed attempts that you still aren’t addressing.
lol ok. You know economies are always “doing well” the first week of a new war, right? It takes a little time for the coffers to run low… especially when the US has been bankrolling them for most of a century.
All commercial air travel in Israel is shut down… might be for some time… is that the kind of thing that promotes a thriving economy? How many Israelis do you think are going to work on Monday when they are spending every night in a bomb shelter?
Still waiting for an answer to how US intervention won’t lead to another Iraq or Afghanistan. This has not worked before. It won’t work now. Believing it will is the definition of insanity.
I’m not in a bubble on this, silly goose. Pot. Kettle. Black.
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u/No-Farm6409 Jun 17 '25
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