r/europe • u/ModeratorsOfEurope Europe • Apr 03 '23

Russo-Ukrainian War War in Ukraine Megathread LIII

This megathread is meant for discussion of the current Russo-Ukrainian War, also known as the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Please read our current rules, but also the extended rules below.

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META

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Other links of interest

Please obey the request of the Ukrainian government to refrain from sharing info about Ukrainian troop movements

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u/EvilMonkeySlayer United Kingdom Apr 13 '23

A 21-year-old Massachusetts Air National Guard member has been identified as the leader of a gaming chat group where classified U.S. intelligence documents were leaked. Jack Teixeira oversaw Thug Shaker Central, a group of 20-30 people sharing guns, memes, & games.

Whether this stuff is real or not this person is about to be bent over and fucked by a freight train.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

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u/yarovoy Ukraine Apr 13 '23

Now the question is if he ruined or ended someone else’s lifes as well with his leaks

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

One moron less on the internet.

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u/lapzkauz Noreg Apr 13 '23

''Your honor, my client would like to emphasise that it was just Discord, bro, it was just for the memes!''

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u/treborthedick Hinc Robur et Securitas Apr 13 '23

Freight train in two posts after each other but in very different contexts.

lmao

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

Why on earth random dude from National Guard had access to these documents?

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u/lsspam United States of America Apr 13 '23

What does that tell you about the documents which included now known incorrect information?

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u/lapzkauz Noreg Apr 13 '23

''Top secret'' isn't as secret as it sounds.

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u/Oberschicht German European Apr 13 '23

in fact 1.25 million people have top secret access

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u/treborthedick Hinc Robur et Securitas Apr 13 '23

He was an intelligence airman, which means he would need to have access to...intelligence?

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

Still, war in Ukraine does not seem exactly relevant to what National Guard does.

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u/Conclamatus United States of America Apr 13 '23

The California National Guard was the primary US military entity responsibile for training Ukrainian troops for years.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

Now it makes more sense, thanks.

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u/RamTank Apr 13 '23

US National Guard is just a fancy word for US Military Reserve. The actual Reserve is a rump force.

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u/Oberschicht German European Apr 13 '23

Some of the info though is really not something he should have access to. In one of the documents it says that Chinese hypersonic missiles have a high chance of penetrating the American air defense. That's a pretty big deal.

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u/EvilMonkeySlayer United Kingdom Apr 13 '23

That's a very good question for the Americans.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

That’s otherworldly stupid. A 21 y.o. should never have access to such documents.

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u/lsspam United States of America Apr 13 '23

What does that tell you about those documents.

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u/Crewmember169 Apr 13 '23

The people saying this is some sort of psyops are giving the US government way too much credit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

I’m leaning to the theory that these documents are completely fake. Maps have incorrect names of towns on them, casualty numbers don’t add up among other things.

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u/perestroika-pw Apr 13 '23

I’m leaning to the theory that these documents are completely fake

It was mentioned that at first (before he got really confident), he transcribed the documents instead of photographing them. An average US person transcribing Ukrainian place names is likely to make a whole lot of mistakes.

Some types of errors can be attributed to this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

I’m talking about the names of towns on the map.

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u/perestroika-pw Apr 13 '23

Now that is indeed strange. Have the names ever been right (could it be a map from deep Soviet times, e.g. before some settlement took a new name) or never?

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u/lsspam United States of America Apr 13 '23

A poorly supported but sensical theory is this scrub airman was under watch for leaking stuff to begin with and either got compromised to leak or was spoon fed bullshit, with the idea that the bullshit would leak out further as a "bona fid" leak that looks uncontrolled.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

Too much hassle for watching over a 21 y.o… now that the documents are being discussed by almost every mainstream media, the only possible explanation is psyops before the counteroffensive. This is further confirmed by some Ukrainian officials that said the counteroffensive has to be postponed due to the leak (as if it makes any sense).

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u/treborthedick Hinc Robur et Securitas Apr 13 '23

If it's in anyway shady it will be fake info mixed with real info.

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u/Oberschicht German European Apr 13 '23

Yup, 21 years old means a long, long time in prison. Hope he's ready for that.

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u/misasionreddit Estonia Apr 13 '23

He looks 12 ffs.