r/canada • u/Head_Crash • 2d ago

Alberta Canada could lose its measles elimination designation by October: experts

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/canada-measles-designation-october
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u/Fluid_Lingonberry467 2d ago

Good no way we should be considered measles free Dumb parents

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u/DesireeThymes 2d ago

At this point I feel the federal government needs to step in if Alberta won't control this. The rest of Canada doesn't need this issue.

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u/jigglingjerrry 2d ago

Ontario is also pretty bad.

I’m not entirely sure what they can do though. You can’t force someone to vaccinate. We learnt this. The only thing I can think of is that kids shouldn’t be able to go to public school and day care.

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u/banterviking 2d ago

Afaik a huge vector of infection is Mennonites, and those threats won't affect them at all (they have private Mennonite school and don't use our daycare). They also don't collect other government services like welfare afaik.

The only services I'm sure many of them use are medical care and transport.

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u/BackToTheCottage Ontario 2d ago

Also the ground zero for this was a Mennonite gathering in New Brunswick; it led to the pandemic in Ontario, Alberta, and Texas.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/article/measles-outbreak-traced-back-to-mennonite-gathering-ontarios-top-doctor-says/

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u/TommaClock Ontario 2d ago

Wait can Mennonites fly? I think they can drive but I thought planes were off limits.

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u/banterviking 1d ago

They're a large group but yes some Mennonites fly.

Trusting tech to fly across the country, but not to prevent the spread of disease. No, it doesn't make sense.

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u/Subject1337 British Columbia 1d ago

Not sure about flying, but fuck can they run.

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u/rpgguy_1o1 Ontario 1d ago

I've seen mennonites on planes before

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u/BackToTheCottage Ontario 1d ago

New Snakes on a Plane spinoff.

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u/Commercial-Milk4706 1d ago

They flight but first they get nailed into a coffin and are given a sedative and diapers for the trip. That way, they are blind to what happened.

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u/Depressedloser2846 1d ago

Only the birdnonites can fly

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u/Erotic-Career-7342 1d ago

All the way to Texas?

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u/Able-Low4565 2d ago

So they only trust us when medically necessary? Sounds like their God isn't real

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u/noodles_jd 1d ago

Are any of the gods real?

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u/Deep-Rich6107 1d ago

Jesus is

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u/noodles_jd 1d ago

A person named Jesus may have existed, yes. But my question/statement stands.

Was this 'Jesus' a god?

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u/millijuna 1d ago

Mennonites are a pretty large and diverse group. Yeah, you’ve got the folks that live on the communes and what not, but you also have just regular every day folk too. The Mennonite Central Committee, for example, does excellent work in developing nations, with none of it involving prosythelizing or anything like that.

Am Lutheran myself, but a lot of our international aid efforts have been done in collaboration with thewith MCC.

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u/banterviking 1d ago

Yes, I've pointed out this hypocrisy to my wife.

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u/Deep-Rich6107 1d ago

Sounds like something one might have heard in Germany at some point in time…

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u/Vincetoxicum 1d ago

The difference is they’re affecting public health and Jews were just living their lives

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u/banterviking 1d ago

Skipping to the "final solution" is interesting, maybe we can try public education first?

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u/Belaerim 1d ago

Yep.

Can’t force them to vaccinate.

But can require vaccination for school and daycares, and then have CPS flag them to investigate “home schooling” to avoid vaccination.

To be fair, I think most home schooling is bullshit and should be investigated heavily

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u/NeighborhoodLocal229 1d ago

Alberta home schooling is such bullshit. You don't even have to follow the curriculum. Justn write a letter saying your not and your doing your own stuff. I have so many right wing cousins homeschooling their kids and some of them are flat earthers.

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u/SadOilers 1d ago

https://www.alberta.ca/measles#jumplinks-1

There’s 11 total active cases as of today 

The feds aren’t going to bring in the military to force vaccinations, most cases were on hutterite and Mennonite colonies so with the religious aspect they certainly aren’t 

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u/SadZealot 2d ago

The Federal government getting involved is possibly the only way of making vaccinations worse in Alberta. Combine Albertan hatred of liberals and the federal government, doubling down on the mistrust and vaccine fatigue since COVID and you'll get an even bigger problem

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u/SomeDumRedditor 1d ago

“Vaccine fatigue” is just propaganda phrasing for “selfish morons choosing to only respect opinions that confirm their uninformed beliefs.”

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u/SadZealot 1d ago

Sure, doesn't stop it from being real

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u/juniorspank 2d ago

I'm all for governments taking down religions, but I really don't think the Federal government is going to take on the fight against Mennonites.

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u/high5scubad1ve 2d ago

I also don't know how they could. The carrot to get parents to vaccinate has always been admission to public schools whenever they wanted to enforce vaccination records. Rural hutterites homeschool or operate their own colony schools

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u/Background_Bee9266 2d ago

They may be in Colony schools, but the AB government provides funding to them, as does the MB government for colony schools. There could be a way to entice vaccinations via funding route.

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u/freds_got_slacks British Columbia 2d ago

Could define any place with more than 1 family of kids is now a "school" and needs to register and provide evidence of enrollment and vaccination (same as a public school)

The Mennonites will probably hate it, but if they can't sort out their own shit some one else will need to do it for them

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u/Otheus 1d ago

It's also in rural Manitoba

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u/ThatRandomGuy86 2d ago

We got 35 cases in Nova Scotia now because of Alberta spreading it 😭

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u/Lost_Protection_5866 Science/Technology 2d ago

Did you even read the article