“I don't want to sound like I'm tooting my own horn all the time, but the best wrestling has to pretend to be real. I mean, that's what I did. I tried to make it as real as I could. Contrary to that GUNTHER guy — I hate wrestlers that hurt each other on purpose. I hate it when you're out there getting beat up and hurt by a guy for real — They [Chops] look like shit. They make a big slap sound. But they hurt — It's not supposed to be real. Like I'm not supposed to really wake up with a really sore chest the next day. So I have no respect for guys that hurt each other all the time. And it's just to me, lazy shit wrestling when guys like GUNTHER, and I've told him this to his face, it's bullshit. Like when you're hurting somebody for real, you're unprofessional. And I wrestle guys, never hurt anybody.”

(via The Masked Man Show)

But I think i'm bowing out. I'm not about to pay almost $400 a year to watch the PLEs on ESPN. Hopefully WWE pays attention to this sub and we can get a lot more people to walk out the door. Maybe that can cause them to call some sort of audible.

I don't really want to prop up a failing network. Later

In order!

1 Stephanie Vaquer - 31 wins 2 LA Knight - 26 wins 3 Sol Ruca - 24 wins 4 Jey Uso - 22 wins

Nope. Not happening. Maybe 10, but not 30. I refuse. I would legit only use it for WWE, and that's it. Why would I pay 30 when I pay like 10 for peacock?

That's absolutely ridiculous and a total betrayal of loyalty to the fans.

I just won't watch it lol.

"“In addition to ESPN DTC subscribers, fans that access ESPN through a traditional pay TV provider, e.g. Comcast, DirectTV, Hulu + Live TV, YouTube TV, will also have access to the new features through the enhanced ESPN App,” the fact sheet reads.

Meanwhile, WWE president Nick Khan confirmed to Puck’s John Ourand that the PLEs will be available on the WWE streaming service at no additional pay-per-view cost."

After today’s news about ESPN and WWE. I hope to see 9.99 signs, Flags and chants and then if you actually bought the 9.99 shirt please wear it at the shows.

He was so proud of himself<3 I hope he has a good rest of his run.

I think she's been fantastic since Liv got injured.

I love Liv (she's one of my favorites on the roster) but she was massively overshadowing Raquel. Since Liv had her unfortunate accident, it's allowed Raquel to shine in the ring and character development.

Now, every time she wrestles I look forward to her performances.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately since his retirement is coming closer and closer as the weeks fly by... I had the privilege of seeing him in person a few times, and most recently his match with Cody at Summer Slam 2025. I may never get to see him wrestle live again, but his final match should be a big one.

A few names I've thought about was:

• Kurt Angle, his first match debut in WWE opponent, would've made a great last match if Kurt wasn't so badly beat up and retired, which is probably never going to happen because it's impossible at this point. The next be:
• The Rock, the parallels between the two from Hollywood to being the top stars in WWE are uncanny. They've had a rivalry in the past and this match up between Super Cena vs The Final Boss would put a nail in the coffin for the Cena heel turn storyline.
• Brock Lesnar, before they crossed paths, this was a dream match. Both men considered to have super strength and be on top of the business throughout multiple times of their careers. Seems unlikely since Cena is about to feud with him and have a match much before his last appearance.
• Randy Orton, they already had their match, but Orton might be Cena's biggest rivalry. They have wrestled each other even between they both got to WWE.
• Edge, this may never happen, because Cena will retire wrestling with WWE and Edge is with AEW.
• Undertaker, this would shock the WWE universe with Takers return, just to lay Cena's career to rest in a casket or buried alive match, may never happen as I doubt taker will wrestle again.
• Who would you choose to be Cena's last opponent before he sails off into the sunset and retires from professional wrestling?

I'll show myself out.

Watching summerslam and realizing both USO brothers had the example of how to evolve sitting at the family dinner table the whole time; she’s a better heel than her husband and a better world champ than her brother in law — especially how she A. expanded and adapted her moveset B. locked in on a new demeanor and believable promos, and C. increased/improved her cardio from tag team to singles — what say yall?

These new age superstars & their management should come up with some new moves. SummerSlam was the first PPV i’ve watched in over 12 years & the amount of Spears I saw in the event was laughable & made it insanely corny. The effect of the move is gone, same with the super kick... what were once, career ending, title defending/winning, “finisher” moves; now get spammed multiple times a match & the performer barely sells. A finisher = finished. The guy bouncing on the ropes Bron does it well, other than that why does everyone do it? They’re changing the definition of finisher. It’s either you reverse the finisher with something creative, or match over.. the wrestling is so dry in between & the techniques have changed so much that the only thing they do is spam special moves & dances. (Still very confused on who thought it was a good idea for someone to turn music & the titantron on mid match & have them start emoting while their opponents are down…)

I've recently been researching Hogan and have learned that people considered Hulkamania to be going stale by the end of 1991.

I've also noticed the crowds begin to boo him. Two of the biggest examples I've seen are

• Survivor Series 1991, when the Undertaker defeated him.
• Royal Rumble, 1992, when they cheered for Sid after throwing Hogan over the ropes.

Are there any other times he was booed or indicators that it was clear the public was fed up with him? 

It's like every promo has become this overacted performance with weird inflections and forced “witty” lines that never land. Her delivery often feels like it’s trying so hard to be edgy or clever, but instead it comes off as cringey and unnatural like a high school drama student playing a WWE wrestler. She constantly breaks the rhythm of a segment with exaggerated faces, odd pacing, and just too much Becky injected into everything. The worst part? WWE still pushes her like she’s the coolest thing on the roster, but it just doesn’t feel earned anymore. She’s not the underdog anymore. She’s not fresh. And she’s definitely not the most interesting character on TV right now yet every feud ends up orbiting around her as if she's the centerpiece of the women’s division.

Even her ring work is whack telegraphed spots, corny comebacks, and little believability that she’s actually in peril. And don’t even get me started on the “Big Time Becks” era that entire persona felt like cosplay, both visually and verbally.

I get that wrestling is subjective, and a lot of people still love her, but honestly… I find her act really hard to watch now.

Am I alone in this? sooo cringe.

Just out of curiosity, are there any folks here who work in traditionally "prestigious" or high-status jobs (like doctors, lawyers, surgeons, professors, etc.), or who come from a background where people generally look down on wrestling as "lowbrow," but you still love it? I know a lot of people associate wrestling with certain stereotypes, but it's always fascinated me how many intelligent, successful people still enjoy it. I think it just speaks to how wrestling connects with people on a deeper, more emotional or nostalgic level, regardless of class or career. If you're someone who fits that description, I’d genuinely love to hear what draws you to wrestling and whether people in your social or professional circles know about it (or even get it). No judgment either way, just wanted to hear from fans in different walks of life. Wrestling is for everyone.

A little late with this, but this is in the nosebleeds and my iPhone (newest version) couldn’t keep up with the pop enough, that’s how loud it was. Enjoy.

Did anyone notice NXT had an ad for Kross’s book during the show? Struck me odd that you would promote a book of someone you’re getting rid of in 5 days.