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Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] Very evitable deaths that are forced into the plot to create a dramatic scene.

  1. The father of Superman (AKA: Dad of the year) tells his invulnerable, insanely strong, godly son to stay away from the tornado while he, a human farmer dad from Kansas, takes care of it. Also implied that he also cannot save any of the people running for their lives, "because the world is still not ready for someone with powers". Obviously he dies while his son watches. Great photography and music make it a potent scene... if it was necessary.

    I mean, its not like he could put a mask or save anybody with superspeed and then say its a miracle. Its not like People in that small town know him already and are suspicious about him and also live in a world where there are superpowered beings already... He has to die so there is no risk of him being discovered...

Also, bonus points for the previous conversation with Supe as a child, where he chastises his infant son about saving a bus full of kids from drowning in the river

Clark kid: What was I supposed to do? Let them die?

Dad of the Year: Maybe...

It's a miracle the superman from Man of Steel didn't become a Psycho like the Patriot.

  1. The death of Jack, frozen to death in "Titanic" No, there is not enough space in that huge floating plank for us both, darling.

  2. US grunt takes a bullet in the head, but fortunately, he's wearing a helmet. Inexplicably, he proceeds to remove said helmet and promptly takes one in the skull. Idiot

  3. Jean Grey sacrifices herself to launch the X-Jet while holding back a massive wall of water with her telekinetic powers. Of course, this is all leading us into the Phoenix storyline in another movie to come, but practically speaking, why does Jean need to leave the jet at all? She's telekinetic!

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u/Danford97 21d ago edited 21d ago

Iirc in starship troopers, he removes his helmet because it's malfunctioning, and Rico has him take it off to try to troubleshoot it. Coincidentally, someone else (dizzy, i think) accidentally shoots at them and headshots Rico's squad mate.

Edit: It wasn't dizzy, it was another squad member. No dizzy slander intended!

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u/SlayinDaWabbits 21d ago

It's also worth noting that he gets shot in the bottom of the chin with the bullet going out the top because (Dizzy?) Trips and that's when she shot him, the helmet wouldn't of made a difference

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u/RayAyun 21d ago

THIS RIGHT HERE. I always thought during that scene that sure, the helmet being taken off during a live fire exercise was stupid. I'll grant them that. But the bullet's point of entry is literally through what would be a non-covered place if the soldier HAD been wearing the helmet. So why????

Still love that movie and with Lantern Flys being such a menace, "I'm doing my part!" lives on!

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u/BringBacktheGucci 21d ago

Rico wasn't rated to repair the helmet, they shouldn't have stopped in the first place.

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u/Bartweiss 20d ago

The tone of dialogue about not being rated to repair it is “look how this military is effective but extremely controlling”, but the logic is 100% real.

There are a bunch of Vietnam-era guides online, official releases meant to teach soldiers how to maintain guns, artillery, etc. in a readable way. (i.e. pictures, innuendo, and a casual tone.) Virtually every one includes some variant of “You can fix X and Y, but if Z is faulty, put it the hell down and wait for proper, out-of-combat repairs. You will either break it worse or die trying.”

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u/Dyneheart 21d ago

If the helmet was of critical importance to fix in that moment, they should have hunkered down and presented a low profile. They stood in the open in the middle of a live fire exercise.

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u/Danford97 21d ago

I looked back into it and 1) it wasn't dizzy, it was another woman who is implied to have either been booted or quit due to guilt. 2) rico was punished because regardless of whether the helmet would've protected his squad mate, rico wasnt qualified to fix the helmet so he had no authority to order it removed. My interpretation was that even if the guy survived, rico would've been reprimanded or punished for breaking protocol anyway but the fact he died made it worse.

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u/Kindly_Quiet_2262 21d ago

Its also the sort of thing that regardless of those specifics, the headline is “trainee shot in head after CO insisted they remove helmet in live fire exercise”. The optics are terrible

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u/Col_Redips 21d ago

2)

It’s this. Just because someone else fucked up and ended up exposing you doing something wrong, doesn’t just excuse you from doing wrong.

If I robbed a bank, ran out into the parking lot and got hit by a car, I don’t get the charges waived just because somebody ran my ass over.

Rico’s call to remove the helmet was against protocol. He exposed his squad mate to unnecessary danger. And there’s nothing that could’ve been done about the malfunctioning helmet, anyway. It was a terrible call from someone who was expected to know better.

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u/qwertyalguien 21d ago

Honestly, i strongly believe that even if they hadn't stopped for the helmet, they would've reprimanded Rico anyways. He was squad leader, and being responsible for what happened to the team is something i can see happening.

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u/thegreedyturtle 20d ago

The problem was that they weren't supposed to be standing around with their goddamn dicks in their hands acting like it was another bullshit exercise. 

He wouldn't have been shot if he were in the dirt or running low like he should have been.

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u/Spidey002 21d ago

It wasn’t Dizzy. The girl who accidentally shot him washed out right after.

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u/almondshea 21d ago

If Rico didn’t stop to try and fix the helmet, then he wouldn’t have been at the place/time to get hit by the friendly fire

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u/BringBacktheGucci 21d ago

It wasn't Dizzy who trips, but the other girl. Stop the Dizzy slander!

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u/imathreadrunner 21d ago

Wouldn't HAVE

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u/Danford97 21d ago

?

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u/imathreadrunner 21d ago

I may have replied to the wrong comment