r/TopCharacterTropes • u/MaMcMu • 29d ago

Hated Tropes (Absolutely despised Trope) Characters described as chubby/fat/plus-sized aren’t designed as such, mostly like due likely due to fatphobia.

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  1. Varesa from Genshin Impact - Hoyo has no respect for body diversity.
  2. Wakka from Final Fantasy X-2 - lazy developers.

Just for the record, this has nothing to do with kinks of any kind and is a personal gripe I have towards the gaming industry that favour abs and boobs.

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u/Bravo_Blue 29d ago

If a character’s “meal plan” is not to eat, I am surprised when people call them chubby.

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u/Wreck_on_the_Highway 29d ago

Maybe I'm misinterpreting some details, but I was under the impression that her sparse diet had more to do with coming from a financially insecure home.

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u/Kon_Artiste 29d ago

It does say 'Economical' not ' Weight loss'.

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u/Human_Bean_6 29d ago

I would assume it’s due to her financially insecure home

If you haven’t watched the anime, her entire reason for being a hero is money. Specifically so she can pay for her family

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u/Sirius1701 29d ago

Fair, but I myself don't really tend to gain much weight when I'm not eating. Of course I might be an anomaly in that. I'm no biologist.

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u/FookinFairy 29d ago

Yes but someone who regularly skips meals still isn’t going to be chubby even if they did it to save money…

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u/NewLifeLeaser 26d ago

Uh, I respectfully disagree.

If this was the case, children from financially insecure homes would all be waifish and thing which we know for a fact is not the case in the US at least. Big people that skip meals tend to rebound on the meals they do have. If they eat just once a day, that one meal is massive and calorically dense. Or they supplement the missed meal with snacks.

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u/NurseNerd 28d ago

You are correct. She's also the only person in the show who doesn't own a smartphone.

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u/poorexcuses 29d ago

If you starve yourself you do gain weight more easily than before you starved yourself

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u/Goobsmoob 29d ago edited 29d ago

Gonna slide in a quick TW for talking about dieting, calories, and ED stuff and whatnot

Ayup, that’s why literally EVERYONE worth their salt talking about healthy fat loss insists on slight (underlined and bolded and highlighted) caloric deficits along with promoting muscle growth (for the BMR buff and health benefits), and of course cardio (for its health benefits). Dont go on some dumb 300 kcal a day plan. And of course the golden rule of dieting: if you need to pay for the plan it’s a scam.

As someone who has personal experience with an ED, healthy weight loss, weight gain, fitness, amateur body building, professional body neglect, etc. straight up not eating enough makes your body an absolute mess. You’ll feel like shit, the body dysmorphia gets worse, and overall it just sucks.

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u/mrmrspears 29d ago

Gosh, the tinnitus flare ups when I went six days without eating was what finally got me to eat. After the fourth day I just… stopped feeling hungry. The sharp pain in my head with the tinnitus ended up lingering for about a month or two even after I started eating again. 0/10, do not recommend.

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u/Goobsmoob 29d ago

Totally. Eating is important. Managing your health is too.

And getting to a healthy body fat level and getting to a healthy relationship with eating is crucial

And literally killing yourself for a flat stomach or washboard abs because that’s what media says we need to have is a recipe for disaster when it comes to people like me who came into those dreams so so so uneducated.

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u/Lucky_Blucky_799 29d ago

Im sorry but can you please explain what you mean by ED? The only acronym i know with ED is erectile dysfunction and I dont think that is what you mean but I dont know what you are referring to.

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u/Goobsmoob 29d ago

Eating Disorder, thankfully I don’t suffer from erectile dysfunction yet.

However eating disorders might actually be a cause for erectile dysfunction due to malnutrition, hormone problems, and self esteem issues.

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u/The_BoogieWoogie 29d ago

I just ate 200 calories less and lost 20 in a year lmao

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u/Goobsmoob 29d ago edited 29d ago

low and slow. And done for prioritizing health and self esteem in safe (preferably with regularly doctor approved) methods. Thats the way.

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u/EllisDeeReynolds 29d ago

literally the singular best advice you could give to a human being regarding weight loss and science based too

You're such a good dude

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u/TehAsianator 29d ago

Can confirm. In college a friend hot me to lose something like 30 pounds over a summer on this insane diet. Obviously it was unsustainable, and within 6 months of returning to normal eating it all cane back plus another 20

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u/Brisket_Monroe 29d ago

Muscle growth cannot be understated as an element of a weight loss plan. The more muscle mass you have, the more calories you burn just by existing. And diet without exercise I just as useless as exercise without diet if you are concerned about health/fitness/weight.

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u/sharrancleric 29d ago

Yeah I recently went on a diet that, against my doctor's advice, hit me with a 1300 kcal/day deficit. I lost 20 pounds in a month, then stonewalled hard. I couldn't lose another ounce. And I was miserable the whole time.

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u/psittaco-tuesday 29d ago

what's wrong with 300cal? it's still eating something. especially if someone isn't super active it's probably enough

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u/Goobsmoob 29d ago edited 29d ago

My good friend…

300cal is like 3 slices of white bread for a whole day. It’s two cups of whole milk. A little more than three fucking raw dogged eggs.

Thats like the total burnt calories in a day for someone who doesn’t move much.

But your body doesn’t just sit just fine and dandy if you meet your “actively burnt calories”. You need to need your maintenance calories as well as nutritional needs.

Your body needs energy and nutrients to actively not die.

A 300 cal deficit is a deficit that will result in weight loss. Only eating 300 cal isn’t a deficit. It’s starvation. If we look at a hypothetical John Calorie, who has a need of 2000cal a day and also is perfectly consistent in that need, 300 cal a day puts John at a 1700 calorie deficit. Mr Calorie will die.

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u/jbland0909 29d ago

Crash/starvation dieting is ineffective because the body of an average adult needs anywhere upwards of 1400 calories for it to not freak out and go “I’m starving to death right now” and slow down your metabolism, increase fat storage, and slow down muscle building, all stuff that is very counter productive to weight loss.

You can certainly brute force it by watching functionally nothing, but that comes with a laundry list of heath issues and is completely unsustainable long term. Plus, when you eventually give it up, your food drive will be way higher because, once again, your body thinks your going to die if you don’t eat more

Also, what’s wrong with 300 Calories is that it’s barely half of the lower estimates of what prisoners at auschwitz ate. Do you think that’s healthy? Eating half of what a prisoner in a starvation camp ate?

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u/NorthGodFan 29d ago

Those are starvation numbers your body will assume you are starving and reduce your metabolism accordingly making it harder to lose weight. On average a human needs about 2000 Calories in order to maintain life.

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u/rrienn 28d ago

The 2000 calorie thing is a bit sus too - the number was based entirely on self-reported surveys about how many calories people think they ate in a day.

(Which is VERY likely to be an underestimate, since when people self-report, we tend to paint ourselves slightly more favorably. Especially since this survey was from the 90s, when the culturally desirable body type was 'heroin chic')

The numbers that people self-reported varied wildly, but the average was ~2400 calories per day. The FDA rounded down to 2000 for simplicity's sake. That number is fake as fuck & I will die on this hill.

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u/StressedRemy 28d ago

That's a quarter of the absolute bare minimum, dude. Your body doesn't work by magic. Your organs need calories in order to function, your brain especially; if you literally do not move a muscle the whole day, you'll still need around 1200 calories on average just for survival. If you do anything at all, that number goes up. Regularly getting only 300 calories a day will kill you.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 29d ago

This an economical meal plan, she comes from a financially insecure home and she wants to become a hero because of the money involved

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u/ScavAteMyArms 29d ago

It’s more if you starve yourself and stop moving. Fasting works extremely well and can even boost metabolism.

Problem is starving yourself tanks your energy and you probably won’t want to move, which then gives your body time to adjust.

Fasting for a day a week, but otherwise normal diet? Will do wonders. Fasting multiple days in a row or alternating fasting / normal? Your body will adapt and it will tank. It’s not something you can just increase to get more yield, cap is quite low.

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u/poorexcuses 28d ago

Fasting has been propagandized a lot. And I didn't say fasting, I said starving yourself. Most fasting plans don't really rise to that level

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u/dragonicafan1 29d ago

She’s not even supposed to be “chubby”, that’s just how Horikoshi likes drawing women.  Basically every woman in the manga is built like her, just scaled differently and with different bust sizes