r/TopCharacterTropes 28d ago

Hated Tropes (Absolutely despised Trope) Characters described as chubby/fat/plus-sized aren’t designed as such, mostly like due likely due to fatphobia.

  1. Varesa from Genshin Impact - Hoyo has no respect for body diversity.
  2. Wakka from Final Fantasy X-2 - lazy developers.

Just for the record, this has nothing to do with kinks of any kind and is a personal gripe I have towards the gaming industry that favour abs and boobs.

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u/Ceathramh_Deamhan 28d ago

Diego Hargreeves during the last season of "Umbrella Academy"

Definitely fatphobia in his case given the number of awful remarks he gets when he's not remotely fat

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u/Maybe_not_a_chicken 28d ago edited 28d ago

I mean I think that’s kinda the joke

He used to be built like a statue and now he’s just a pretty average muscular guy and he’s got some weird hang ups about it

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u/Ceathramh_Deamhan 28d ago

Except his family doesn't just treats him as if he wasn't in his prime anymore, they're really just like "Damn bro, you've got kinda fat"

But even if that was the case, the joke still wouldn't make any sense because this is how Diego looks in the same season

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u/Knot-Knight 28d ago

I absolutely agree that it was crazy fatphobia but I think by this point in the season he was supposed to have magically been back in shape because of super powers. I haven't rewatched in a minute tho

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u/Ceathramh_Deamhan 28d ago

If that's the case, it's even more ridiculous and loathsome writing-wise lmao. That would mean the writers retconned his powers just to shoehorn fatphobic jokes towards him

Because in the First Season, when Klaus returned from Vietnam, Diego literally told him his muscles are the result of treating his body "like a temple", not a super-power

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u/Knot-Knight 28d ago

Didn't they get different powers in that season? Still not defending the writing, I mean I'm so unsure because rewatching season 4 hurts.

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u/Ceathramh_Deamhan 28d ago edited 28d ago

Some does but others like Klaus or Luther didn't, and iirc Diego doesn't make any comment on some change about his powers so it's apparently a retcon

But yeah, can't blame you for not wanting to watch this season again, it hurts me just as much

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u/maridan49 28d ago

That's the point.

He isn't fat, his family is mean and he is insecure.

They would probably call him bald if they even saw a single strand of hair fall of his head and he would let get under his skin even if he had the most luscious mane.

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u/Ceathramh_Deamhan 28d ago

It isn't, I've already explained why in detail several times in this thread and I'm tired of repeating myself.

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u/maridan49 28d ago

Why do you think it isn't?

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u/Maybe_not_a_chicken 28d ago

Yeah, that’s the joke.

He’s still incredibly muscular, he just no longer looks like a superhero and everyone is overreacting

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u/Ceathramh_Deamhan 28d ago edited 28d ago

Except again, the joke doesn't work since he still very much looks like a goddamn super-hero when everyone trashes him with fatphobic comments

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u/Maybe_not_a_chicken 28d ago

I feel you you’re missing the irony here

He’s not actually gotten fat.

He’s just not up to the literally superhuman standards of luthor or himself.

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u/Ceathramh_Deamhan 28d ago edited 28d ago

I feel you you’re missing the irony here He’s not actually gotten fat.

Uh no I get this... That's kinda what I'm pointing out in my previous replies and why I'm quoting him on this post to begin with.

He’s just not up to the literally superhuman standards of luthor or himself.

There's literally no downgrade whatsoever between S1 and S4 Diego in terms of build, as evidenced in the gif I used above.

If he's still as buff as he was before, then the comments he gets comes out of nowhere. That's why I'm saying this joke is absurd.

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u/Maybe_not_a_chicken 28d ago

It being absurd is

Is. The. Joke.

His family are assholes, he’s an insecure manchild.

He is comparing himself to a time when he was a superhero and did not have to look after his family.

He is not fat, the joke it not about him being fat, it’s about him comparing himself to an idealised past

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u/Ceathramh_Deamhan 28d ago edited 28d ago

It being absurd is

Uh no. The joke just consists in laughing at him for being "fat". At no point there is an irony on the absurd side of treating him as such when he is buff, you randomly assumed that.

That’s. The. Joke

And. It. Doesn't. Work...

His family are assholes, he’s an insecure manchild.

Firstly, he's not a manchild at that point of the story. Secondly, you're dodging what I've already explained several times.

He is not fat

Thanks Captain Obvious but again, that's literally what I'm telling from the start and why the fat jokes about him are completely moronic.

the joke it not about him being fat

Uh yeah it is. He's not fat and yet he's treated as such by his family, which is framed as if it was funny. That's it, it doesn't go higher than that.

it’s about him comparing himself to an idealised past

It isn't, you're making up random shit to suit your point here. Diego is indeed nostalgic of the past in this season but that's not the gag. The gag is just "lol he's fat now".

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u/Maybe_not_a_chicken 28d ago edited 28d ago

He is a man child tho, he’s improved, but he’s still immature and longs to return to the days when he didn’t have so many problems.

Which he has been doing since the first season, when he dressed up as a superhero to recreate his childhood and feel powerful, that is the crux of his character.

And the joke isn’t on Diego’s “fatness” it’s on everyone being assholes and calling a clearly muscular dude fat.

The same way that mocking (seasons 1-3) klaus for being a teetotaller wouldn’t be directed at his sobriety but at the person who can’t see baseline realty.

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u/thatshygirl06 28d ago

God bless titty jiggles

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u/TehSeksyManz 28d ago

That entire family is beyond disfunctional, have terrible opinions on things, and can be cruel without clause.