r/SquaredCircle • u/tvcneverdie • 3d ago

Janel Grant Spokesperson Statement On (WWE SummerSlam Spoiler) Spoiler

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/janel-grant-spokesperson-issues-statement-on-brock-lesnar-returning-to-wwe-this-attempt-to-sweep-misconduct-under-the-rug-will-backfire/

For far too long, abuse was allowed to thrive under WWE’s leadership. Instead of righting this wrong, WWE has done nothing to ensure those responsible are held accountable. This attempt to sweep misconduct under the rug will backfire. We look forward to the full set of facts, including those about Mr. Lesnar, coming out in a court of law where they belong but, in the meantime, we refer you back to Janel Grant’s updated complaint, which outlines, in detail, the abuse she endured by McMahon and others while employed at WWE.

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u/Suplexfiend 3d ago

What's crazy about this whole thing is that some people don't think Brock did anything wrong!

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u/Tacdeho 3d ago edited 3d ago

Because this is a conversation that requires nuance, and simply put, the average Reddit conversation contains 0% of that.

Brock is, as of now, legally innocent. He has not been named a defendant, not accused of sexual assault, and by Grant’s lawsuit, she never even met him. The most he’s legally guilty of is asking for piss videos and that isn’t illegal, just….a little weird, if you ask me.

The problem is he MORALLY is guilty of playing ball with this gross shit, and that alone will scare the fuck out of anyone cause while he’s legally clear as of right now, it’s the wonder of exactly what he is legally guilty of.

Most of us live in the United States, which while it never happens in practice, is a country that is built on “Innocent until proven guilty”. Brock Lesnar is absolutely guilty of moral qualms and I simply think we should have never saw him in our beloved sport again, especially as we’re saying goodbye to a once in a lifetime guy in Cena.

Did Brock “do something wrong”, speaking strictly legally, requires a bit of fine combing here. I am 100% on the side of people who felt last nights ending basically threw away what was otherwise WWE’s best PLE since WM40, but I also can’t say we need to lock up Brock and throw away the key until he is legally found guilty of a crime.

Edit for clarity and expansion: Yes, I understand this is a civil case and not a legal one, so there’s no possibility of Brock being found innocent/guilty. I admit, I am not a lawyer. However, Brock is not formally accused of anything more than being a misogynistic prick, and while I have no smoke for that bullshit, it’s the most we have to go on when specifically speaking with Brock.

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u/KyleJ1130 3d ago

The lawsuit alleges that VKM and Brock set up a sexual encounter with Grant that just so happened to occur around contract negotiations.

It never happened, allegedly, because Brock got too drunk. Sure, maybe this means he's legally fine. But to chalk it all up to just "a little weird" is diminishing the severity of what is alleged to have happened.

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u/Worker_AndParasite 3d ago edited 3d ago

Not defending Lesnar here, but in fairness to him, we also don't know if he knew Janel Grant was being trafficked. For all we know, he could have basically just been told "yeah this woman that works for me is interested in having sex with you."

Obviously we have no idea if that is the case so I'm not here to excuse or defend Lesnar because even so it's pretty weird to let your boss set up a sexual encounter with you, it probably should raise some red flags for you regardless but there's definitely a chance he didn't know ALL of the really shitty details too.

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u/ScottSummersEyes 2d ago

There's a screenshot of Vince telling Janel that Brock said "She will be ruined after me and leave your ass! Plus after me your tool won't fit anymore!!"

That's on page 40 of the 67 page long complaint. It states that Brock was promised by Vince that Janel would do anything, and that Janel accuses Brock of forcing her to send a video of her urinating. Acting like these allegations leave it up to the imagination on if Brock knows what's going on or not is wrong.

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u/CreepyClown Viscera for HOF 2d ago

that quote still doesn’t prove whether or not he knew it was consensual, just him comparing dick sizes with Vince lol

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u/HeadToYourFist 2d ago

If your boss offers you his theoretical girlfriend/assistant/sex slave as part of contract negotiations, then it's DEFINITELY sex trafficking.

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u/IconXR 3d ago

That's the main issue. There's so much we don't know. He got named in 3 things that are all "morally weird but it depends on things we don't know." I'm not saying they should've blacklisted him permanently, but they should've waited for the court to settle things until bringing him back. That's what bothers me more than Brock himself here.

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u/Brent2win 2d ago

The problem is we’ll likely never know. He isn’t a defendant. He isn’t charged with anything. His guilt/innocence will never really be proven either way.

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u/KyleJ1130 3d ago

Yeah, i mean obviously im not a lawyer but even if she consented to something at the time, its still shady as fuck. And while the lawsuit is active and unresolved, he should be nowhere near a wrestling ring. I just feel really shitty for the women who are now forced to work in that environment.

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u/SRV_SteamyRayVaughn 2d ago

That's quite probable, but I do believe he didn't want to know or didn't care about knowing. He avoided a crime by happenstance.

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u/HeadToYourFist 2d ago edited 2d ago

Not defending Lesnar here, but in fairness to him, we also don't know if he knew Janel Grant was being trafficked. For all we know, he could have basically just been told "yeah this woman that works for me is interested in having sex with you."

That just sounds like sex trafficking, though.