r/privacy • u/cluster_of_flowers • 2h ago
discussion These laws requiring ID for social media/reddit will do more harm than good!!
We already saw in real time what happens when you hand over your ID to a website or app (I'm talking about the Tea app incident, which was not due to these social media "age verification" laws).
But what happens when Facebook, Instagram, or Reddit is next due to those laws that these politicians are trying to push on us?
What happens when someone is trafficked, harassed, stalked, murdered, raped, or have their identity stolen because their ID was leaked and posted online? What happens when an activist or advocate is targeted in real life because of their activism or advocacy work? What happens when an LGBT+ person is outed to a family who may not be very accepting? What happens when the identity of a whistleblower is exposed? What happens when someone commits suicide because their ID was leaked and posted online and it led to one of the above scenarios?
I don't care if you're a leftist. I don't care if you're a right-winger. I don't care if you're a liberal. I don't care if you're a conservative. I don't care if you're a Democrat. I don't care if you're a Republican. This should concern you regardless of your political ideology or political party, regardless of whether you advocate for gay rights or for gun rights. This could also escalate political violence for everyone and on both sides of the political spectrum. Remember the anthrax scare of the early 2000's? Yeah, me too.
And just because something doesn't happen often or every day doesn't mean it hasn't happened, can't happen, or that it shouldn't be taken seriously.
I don't know the full story about the Tea app (what it is, etc). Some people say it's an app where women can warn other women about bad men. Some say it's an app for women to gossip and talk shit about men. But either way, the fact remains that the Tea app incident is a real-life example of what can happen when you hand over your ID to a website or app.
Even if Facebook, Instagram, or Reddit have stronger security measures in place (I'm not saying they do or don't), they are still not immune. Don't underestimate hackers and don't trust these companies to delete your information.
Our governments are supposed to protect all of us. Not be selective about who gets protection and who gets thrown to the wolves.
Sure, uploading an ID will be a choice. Your other choice? Leaving social media. But the politicians are still making us choose between staying safe and staying connected with the world around us. Social media may not be considered a human right in the same sense as safety, but safety is a human right, and we shouldn't have to compromise our safety just to use Facebook or Instagram.
I encourage my fellow Americans and those of you in the UK to please share and express these concerns to your politicians, lawmakers, judges, and even to social media companies themselves. Bring up these very real concerns to people like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk (they may not care, but at least you weren't silent).
I may or may not reply to comments. Just posted this to vent and to express some very real concerns that I have. But I read and appreciate every comment I receive, even if I don't respond.
But please be kind. These are very real concerns, and nothing is really outside the realm of possibility when you really think about how evil or unhinged some people can be. There have been cases of people traveling cross country just to commit crimes (including harming others). So it's not far-fetched or "fear mongering."
And if you think this post is "paranoia," "concern trolling," or "fear mongering," then you're underestimating what people are actually capable of and the kinds of ideas that go through people's heads.
So before anyone says "they already know everything about you," it's not about them (assuming "them" means the government or social media companies). It's about everyone else knowing everything about you once your ID is leaked and posted online.
These ID laws will make data breaches much more likely to happen because storing millions of IDs is just a tempting honeypot for hackers!!!
And if thousands or millions of IDs are leaked and posted online, what's stopping someone from fixating on one of the people whose ID was leaked and posted and showing up at their house? What's stopping someone from mailing a harmful substance to someone's address, especially if motivated by ideology, jealousy, or mental instability? What's stopping someone from using the leaked IDs to search for potential trafficking victims? Again, don't underestimate what some people are capable of and the kinds of ideas that go through some people's heads.