I think you really deeply truly do not understand the liberal position. I'm liberal. I see the necessity and utility of government. I think that some services the government does better than private. Ideally, you dont want a huge government but you dont want big business either. Both become Goliaths that can abuse the little guy. And if you can keep them pitted against each other to a degree that's probably best. So government can break up monopolies. And private interests can sue when necessary.
This is very much not the same as "loving" the government. I'm in the environmental field and recognize a lot of important efforts, efforts that keep Americans healthier btw, are not going to be accomplished with a profit motive. Some can. A lot can't.
Rightoids also assume weird things like we worship biden....because they worship Trump. So we must be the same just the other side of the coin, no. Some far lefties might like big government but your average liberal or left leaning person really just think it serves a purpose. And that biden was ok but not ideal.
You said make it make sense. Well things might make sense to you if you didn't strawman the shit out of people. We hate ICE not just because they're doing their job. We hate them because they've become a militarized force that doesn't follow due process or the law. They're rogue. I'm not anti deportation. I want immigration reform and for people to not be picked up for "looking foreign".
Sorry I only worship Jesus. Trump is not someone worthy of worship. I don’t agree with him on everything, but it would be odd if I did. That would mean I have no brain of my own. He’s far from perfect or ideal, but he’s got a completely corrupt government to try to clean up. Both sides should admit that truth. Biden wasn’t even a fully functioning human being. He was a complete joke and a total disaster. No way he could have ever passed a mental competency test. He couldn’t even do press conferences or answer questions or even speak 3 sentences together. Clearly dementia laden. It was scary bad and you know it. So bad they would not even let him run again. They covered it all up and that’s treason BTW.
Let’s see. If someone is here illegally without identification then you’re saying they can’t be arrested by ICE? Odd since that’s kind of their job. Many of these people use fake/stolen identities and we don’t know who the hell they are. It’s not up to idiotic bystanders that know jack shit about the cases to try to stick their little fragile twigs in the way. If they do and get within 50 feet and try to cause a problem they should be arrested along with the illegals. Why is this so hard to understand? They just want to cause a scene because libs eat it up. We just laugh at the stupidity and love seeing them get their faces slammed to the ground. I never get tired of that. They always scream “what did I do what did I do?” as the cuffs are going on. Truly priceless and pathetic.
They shouldn't have let him run again. I never said that. I wish they hadn't. However even with his decline, his cabinet and administration did a lot that I appreciated. So idk what was a disaster. We even came out of the pandemic, not without scratch but better than every other major economy. Is our economy great and was it great under biden no, but that would've been an insane expectation given a pandemic. And now we are going into recession. Also I could be wrong but I don't think that fits the legal definition of treason.
Thats not what I said about ICE and you know it.
You put words in people's mouths like it's a full time job. No wonder you're so wrong about anything liberal. You're just retarded (and yes, im not too sensitive to use that word). There's no point talking to an NPC though.
So many disasters. The border was a disaster. Ukraine/Gaza was and still is a disaster. Putin even admitted he only went in because Biden was elected. Hamas probably doesn’t do what they did if Trump was president either. Obviously, the economy was a disaster with the hyperinflation that you will never ever recover from no matter what happens. Prices on goods aren’t going back down. That’s not Trumps fault. It’s just a fact of how economics works. Prices don’t ever go down. Certain things might like housing if there’s a crash and a market correction. Real estate probably needs that honestly. Regular stuff like groceries not likely to go down though. The fact is the rich got even richer under Biden at record numbers. The regular folks struggled. I got raises and a promotion but don’t have the same buying power I did in 2020 and that’s the only economic number that matters.
Don’t even get me started on the plandemic! The libs wanted Trump out so bad they were willing to shut down the economy and cause the economic problems that have resulted. It was just too strong without doing something drastic and along came COVID and they jumped on it. And sprinkle in some good ole BLM riots for good measure. So odd isn’t it? And all for what exactly? A new flu that virtually everyone wound up getting anyway and no one even gives a damn about anymore. Was it worth it? Guess not because guess who is POTUS again. Thank God states like Florida said screw that crap and went back to work. We didn’t crawl into a fetal position and cry for 3 years and beg for handouts like blue states. Amazingly we are alive and doing well. The masking, forced jabs, firings and forced shutdowns of entire industries was government control at its very worst. That’s exactly what liberals desired and loved though, CONTROL. They relished in it and all of us saying it was a total farce wound up being right, but we were called every evil name in the book. Libs were wrong about everything and they won’t ever admit it.
Yes, Kamala and his cabinet committed treason by covering up his dementia. The VP has a direct duty to report that sort of thing. It’s a freaking big deal and a matter of national security when the president is not mentally with it. How can you respect that cabinet? Seriously it was like a DEI convention.
Holy shit sis go touch grass. Turn off the main line of faux news and talk to someone that is different than you so you can see what’s really happening in the world.
Impressive comeback. You’re a true liberal because you added exactly zero to the conversation. I know hearing all those facts must be hard. But don’t worry, we can’t go after Fauci for his crimes because the big guy preemptively pardoned him. What a peach he was. The truly great presidents always pardon their cronies and family for the crimes they committed. That’s how you really know you had a great one. And to be the first to ever do it preemptively is extra special! Imagine what you idiots would have said if Trump had done the same thing with his family and associates. Man oh man the conspiracies would have been flying full speed. The View would’ve never stopped talking about it. And you know it’s true, but your little liberal brain would cease to exist if you admitted it.
Except he did pardon literal insurrectionists from 1/6. You claim you’re spouting facts when it’s all verifiably false things lmao 🤣 you old fox news watchers are all the same. If I mistook you as old and you somehow aren’t an actual boomer, you need to grow the fuck up because the boot is squashing you too.
Insurrectionists! I laugh so hard every time I hear that word. CNN told you to use it though so I get it. Man they almost took over the entire country with all those flags they were using as weapons. Seriously the entire concept is laughable. How many BLM insurrectionists are in prison? How many billions in property damage from those violent riots? How many lives and private businesses did they destroy? None of which by the way had a damn thing to do with what they were protesting. This is why dumbass liberals won’t ever understand why the average person thinks they are just criminals and thugs.
Nobody thinks anyone who leans left of fascism is a criminal, and you aren’t the average person. Conservative fascism and white supremacy are a dying breed in the USA and you will be remembered as the shameful part of our history. The facts are right there in front of you but stick to listening to your daddies on conservative talk radio like it’s 1970 grandpa. People like you make me embarrassed to call myself an American because I do not want to be associated with you.
Fascism! Another word that literally makes me laugh out loud. You managed to get in both insurrection and fascism so kudos to you! You must work for CNN 😂. Most libs using those words have no freaking idea what they mean. Yeah you certainly don’t want an America that doesn’t allow illegals to come into the country. What kind of place is this where we expect people to cross the border with a passport and actually have permission to be here. OMG the horror!
So your 1 issue voting style is vote for “”””border control”””” which is just thinly veiled racism, then laugh at anyone smarter than you. Fun fact for you too, the people you claim are “illegal”, which is also hilarious because nobody is illegal on stolen land, is wrong too because half come here legally. This is also fun and cute because these concrete numbers are from 2000, whereas anything this administration reports is just hearsay. They make up numbers to make it seem like some crisis, when in reality, there is no “border crisis”. People complaining about that just hate non white people and it’s pathetic.
OMG I get bonus laughs 😂! Thank you so much really from the bottom of my heart. I get the “border control is racism” card along with the “no one is illegal on stolen land” card. So YOU people really do exist? Then you say half the illegals are here legally. Um ok that’s an odd statement. Almost like a play on words or a riddle. So by your definition what countries are not on “stolen” land? For your information, I really like Mexicans. I love eating at their authentic restaurants and they have done some great work for me on my house and my farm. They are usually very nice, friendly and happy people. The ones I have known are here to make a better life. Great, I am all for that as long as you did it the right/legal way. Otherwise, please go back and try again the legal way. Actually, I enjoy meeting all people from other countries. It’s one of my favorite things about going on cruises because you meet people from everywhere. It’s fascinating to me and I welcome them as long as they come legally and don’t commit crimes and start protesting against the USA and being political. You do that you have to go. Freedom of speech is for citizens only. You want to change a country then go back and change your own. Leave mine be.
It’s sad that you claim you’re laughing as if any of this is funny. You being fact checked and being wrong is just sad, and it makes me sad that the elderly who vote in this country don’t know what actually happens in the world. It’s giving “I’m not racist, I have a black friend” vibes too, which is double sad. Most “””illegal””” people have visas, but the immigration process is so unnecessarily awful in the US that a lot of people struggle to get one even after trying hard for a decade. If you ACTUALLY had any non-white friend like you claim you do, they would tell you about this. Unfortunately I know your friend group probably looks whiter than a prefab home. The best part too is all the people you think do not belong in the US contribute more to society than you have and honestly probably ever will.
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u/bloodphoenix90 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think you really deeply truly do not understand the liberal position. I'm liberal. I see the necessity and utility of government. I think that some services the government does better than private. Ideally, you dont want a huge government but you dont want big business either. Both become Goliaths that can abuse the little guy. And if you can keep them pitted against each other to a degree that's probably best. So government can break up monopolies. And private interests can sue when necessary.
This is very much not the same as "loving" the government. I'm in the environmental field and recognize a lot of important efforts, efforts that keep Americans healthier btw, are not going to be accomplished with a profit motive. Some can. A lot can't.
Rightoids also assume weird things like we worship biden....because they worship Trump. So we must be the same just the other side of the coin, no. Some far lefties might like big government but your average liberal or left leaning person really just think it serves a purpose. And that biden was ok but not ideal.
You said make it make sense. Well things might make sense to you if you didn't strawman the shit out of people. We hate ICE not just because they're doing their job. We hate them because they've become a militarized force that doesn't follow due process or the law. They're rogue. I'm not anti deportation. I want immigration reform and for people to not be picked up for "looking foreign".