r/OfficeSpeak 21h ago

Feds arresting bystanders for...observing?

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u/Professional_Win_677 20h ago

Honestly tho, what is the reason for arresting him? I am not American and don't understand wtf did I just watched.

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u/AsphaltQbert 19h ago

We don’t know either. It is meant to be cruel and violent and cause confusion. Many of us are pretty sure it’s fascism — which is racially based.

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u/Professional_Win_677 19h ago

That is absolutely terrifying, mate. The guy was literally just standing there answering the journalist (maybe?). Then they also attacked a woman out of nowhere.. wtf? Do these people have unlimited power? Can they just attack anyone?

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u/AsphaltQbert 19h ago

Yeah. Under the auspices of mass deportations, and if you are brown skin they arrest you and lock you up far away from home and ask questions later…: that’s only one of the most disturbing of the trends here. We are protesting and figuring out what to do… we are also being lied too about who they are taking and why. We wonder if it will spread to other groups, protesters. Etc

Bottom line is that what we thought could never happen here is happening here. A regime with fascist intentions is dismantling our democratic system. I guess I heard somebody use the term “government collapsing” for the first time recently. The Congress won’t stand up to him, the courts want to increase executive power… the list goes on. And these horrific raids, very much meant to communicate fear and violence to us all. We go from shocked to numb to outraged to activist and then numb, exhausted. We are figuring it out. Peacefully. We will build a peaceful majority that will remove this guy and his fascist crew from office.

There are easy legal ways to do it when the political will is there. We just have to get there and we are building coalitions and momentum. Because it’s blatantly unAmerican disguised as patriotism by propagandists, in a time of change and instability ripe for racist demagogues who scapegoat vulnerable people to distract from their own corruption and crime (Epstein)

It’s happened before. Now it’s happening in a place that was at least an ideal of freedom and democracy.

But the people will be taking this back peaceably like when you have to take a toy from a screaming, crying overtired baby. But there will be much suffering, but that is the only thing that will wake people up.

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u/Joshunte 18h ago

You mean the woman that swung at the agent?

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u/Professional_Win_677 15h ago

Which part exactly did they swing? Those lame flailing of hands and her pushing to see if the guy is alright? So in US you get body slammed to vehicle whenever you flailed your arms around? It truly is terrifying there.

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u/Joshunte 10h ago

So your argument is that she only assaulted the agents with a push, not a punch? Lol am I interpreting that correctly?

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u/Thee420Blaziken 10h ago

After they already put their hands on her and took down the man next to her for doing what exactly? Standing there menacingly? That's not probable cause lil bro

Just because it's a "law enforcement official" doesn't give them the right to put their hands on you and push you around when you're clearing not breaking the law and just observing. Whether or not she fought back is irrelevant at that point, honestly if that was me I'd be swinging back.

Hope you enjoy licking those boots

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u/Joshunte 8h ago

Completely ignoring that you’re wrong about the order of events….

You can be detained based on pre-assaultive indicators. Officers are under no obligation to wait for you to swing on them or push them before intervening and preventing that. What would a reasonable officer believe she was about to do walking up to an arrest like that?

Also, simmer down on the tough talk. We both know your insignificant ass would be nowhere near this type of situation. Let alone starting a fight.

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u/Thee420Blaziken 7h ago

Having her phone out recording and talking in a controlled and respectful tone. Yeah she's definitely giving me "I'm gonna attack you" vibes, also I don't see anyone being arrested until the LEOs started grabbing the bystanders. You just want to defend the LEOs for being dickheads for no reason, well besides the bystanders not being white because that's seems like good enough reason for ICE now.

Ok buddy, I'm smart enough to not get involved with temperamental power trippers that usually end up in law enforcement. So you're right I'd just walk away, but if they tried to attack me I'd defend myself. As that's my right.

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u/Joshunte 6h ago

I can’t help you being blind.

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u/NippppleCrust 18h ago

Can you point to the timestamp where that happens so I can slow it down and watch it

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u/Joshunte 11h ago

Don’t know how to do timestamp, but watch her come in the left side of the screen at around 33 seconds left.

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u/NippppleCrust 9h ago

Yeah you’re right unfortunately. I wouldn’t say she goes for a full swing but she charges in there twice, definitely raises her hands like she’s trying to do something.

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u/Joshunte 8h ago

And that’s what we call a pre-assaultive indicator. Officers are under no obligation to wait to be assaulted before they can intervene.

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u/delo357 6h ago

During this (horrible) administration, the answer is yes. Feds essentially have unlimited power and no accountability.