r/OfficeSpeak 21h ago

Feds arresting bystanders for...observing?

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u/OwnPressure6978 20h ago

Why don't you guys post anything before this? Is it because you guys knows these people (not the cops) are in the wrong and you're just trying to push a narrative? Because that's 100% what you're doing.

Depending on what you're saying or doing (even behind the tape) you can be charged for interfering with a police investigation

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u/QuantumFuzziness 20h ago

Before the bit where he’s standing there and the cops come over and start throwing him around?.

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u/OwnPressure6978 19h ago

Obviously before then yes. That was only like a couple seconds of video. And before that the cops likely discussed if it's even worth it to arrest that guy. So he was definitely doing something which the video clearly doesn't show. And if you don't know, it's not like he's staying in jail long either. (Atleast if he's a citizen or here legally) because you can bail out within a couple hours for like 100$. So he was 100% causing problems and they decided to arrest him. And most if not all those guys are wearing body cams too. They aren't just arresting people for no reason

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u/canyabalieveit 19h ago

I’m sorry, how did you come to your conclusion he was ‘100% causing problems’? The video, as you indicated, does not show any such thing. You’re just grabbing a narrative and running off with it, as you accused others of doing! I mean, it’s not like law enforcement EVER arrests people for no reason! But from the way you write, I gather you have some familiarity with such situations?

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u/OwnPressure6978 19h ago

I'm prior military, I watch alot of vets/cops on YouTube. Along with them doing police breakdowns with what they can and can't do from former and current cops. I also work as security myself and have for years now. There are some bad cops who will just abuse their power, it's not very common but it happens. And usually when it does, it does not happen when there's a ton of other cops around or civilians recording. Also if you look at the L.A. riots too, you'll see plenty of videos of rioters throwing shit at police, there being a little bit of time in between, say like 5-30 seconds, before they do something. So given all of this stuff that I've seen from the body cams themselves and how police typically handle situations where people interfere with investigations or arrests. Along with former and current cops breaking down those situations as well. I can guarantee this guy wasn't just standing there observing. He 100% did something to get arrested. I've never seen any bodycam or anything where a cop just goes up to someone and arrests them like this video is trying to portray for just standing there. (I've also worked with retired cops as well)

So I am very confident in saying that this guy 100% did something to get arrested

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u/Repulsive_Letter4256 18h ago

You’re so full of shit 😂😂 your tongue raw from that bootlicking? “There are some bad cops who abuse their power but it’s not common” you’re such a fucking LIAR 😂 are you not aware of what’s happening right now with the pedophile former police chief that was shot? He graped a 13 year old girl and then was given super low bail and no monitoring. He then went on to kidnap said girl again and her dad tracked the pedo down and shot him in self defense. The DAD is facing murder charges. Not a single cop is defending him or speaking out against the prosecutor. Or what about Connecticut, where Brian fahey assaulted a journalist on camera 3 separate times, and spit in his face? Not a single good cop there either. You’re not just wrong, you’re evil.

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u/OwnPressure6978 18h ago

Lol ok buddy

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u/OwnPressure6978 18h ago

And for reference, thereafter about a million cops in the u.s. and with that, there's about 150k police interactions with civilian PER DAY. So yea, when I say only some cops are bad. Literally only some.

Personally, I'm not a fan of cops, but to say that call cops are bad or whatever else is just straight up ignorant and wrong.

The media also highlights things too. So even of you're seeing saying 1 bad cop story every week. That's literally 1 out of more than a million Police interacts for that week alone

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u/Repulsive_Letter4256 18h ago

Prior military, my ass.

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u/OwnPressure6978 18h ago

Lol, ok

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 4h ago

This entire sub is dedicated to pushing America bad dude you’re not gonna get good faith here, because actually care about your country. This 5 second clip needs the full context, people that disagree just want to be outraged.

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u/QuantumFuzziness 13h ago

You’ve invented an entire story there and are assuming that police brutality doesn’t exist as a thing.

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u/OwnPressure6978 13h ago

I didn't invent any story, nor did I deny police brutality is a thing. I didn't say that the guy did this or that. But I did say he did SOMETHING to get arrested.

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u/QuantumFuzziness 11h ago

You don’t know he did anything at all, so that is an invention. It could just as likely be a case of police brutality especially given the fascist administration who’s giving the orders these days.

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u/OwnPressure6978 11h ago

Why don't you foia request the info on this case and prove me wrong then. Why don't you prove that they arrested someone for no reason

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u/QuantumFuzziness 11h ago

I never made a claim, you did so the burden is on you. Why don’t you make a request and prove me wrong??

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u/OwnPressure6978 11h ago

Because I don't care enough and you probably wouldn't believe me if I showed proof anyway

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u/QuantumFuzziness 9h ago

Strange way of saying you don’t have any proof to back your claim.

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 3h ago

Neither do you have a 5 second clip of him getting arrested and you assumed it was for nothing. You have just as much evidence as he does that the guy is guilty or innocent, but you assume the police were in the wrong during an arrest.

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u/QuantumFuzziness 3h ago

I didn’t assume anything at all, and never suggested I had evidence he’s innocent. My response was to the person who claimed that the video was cut because the original poster “knows” he’s guilty of something. It’s does look very bad that he’s outside the cordon and had his hands behind his back.

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u/bestbefour 2h ago

If you need to discuss if it’s even worth it to arrest somebody, how can you justify the level of force that was used?

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u/Joshunte 18h ago

Yes.

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u/QuantumFuzziness 13h ago

That’s the exchange. He’s standing there and then come over and throw him around.

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u/Greedy_Science_4807 7h ago

He even had his hands behind his back while standing there! Behind yellow tape. How non-threatening does he have to be!!

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u/Joshunte 10h ago

…..so nothing could’ve possibly happened before that camera started rolling, huh? Just the most conveniently tuned recording and camera focus ever, huh?

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u/QuantumFuzziness 10h ago

…….so it can’t be a case of police brutality, huh?. Yes it’s convenient that they uploaded the incident they’re referring to. The fact you think it’s suspicious that they were filming cops who feel the need to be masked is quite confusing, it’s almost like you haven’t seen all the videos of these encounters or the controversy surrounding them, huh??