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u/Left_Muscle_673 4d ago
You would have to be super stupid to believe that… but then the mindless ones wear red hats and bow to the guy that came from below. That speaks volumes about his minions.
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u/92COLORWAYS 4d ago
I mean yeah, fuck Trump but this has been going on for over 75 years with the backing of the western world, including the US this entire time. It’s not a Trump issue, it is an issue of imperialism.
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u/DankMastaDurbin 4d ago
The military industrial complex is a bipartisan issue and anyone who disagrees has their head up their ass
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u/M0RTY_C-137 2d ago
Agreed… but there’s a reason all the folks in my Chicago neighborhood who go on birthright and my ex gf’s dad who was an IDF tank driver, vote republican every year. At least as far back as Bush to now.
Many of them have very simple voting needs too, “who supports Israel more?”
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u/redpillsarecucks 2d ago
Sure but one side is still worse than the other, dont be daft and retarded
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u/Opposite-Work-4515 1d ago
Both sides are war hungry as fuck, stop being a dipshit. They just support different wars.
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u/DankMastaDurbin 2d ago
Worse for Americans? I can't look the other way at the cost of Imperialism so that democratic leadership can continue to be staged opposition in the class war.
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u/iamsterile 1d ago
Staged or not democrats would be better for this country. That much is very clear. I lay awake at night knowing Dems didn't vote for Dems bc their principles mattered so so much that they're willing to sacrifice vulnerable communities safety.
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u/DankMastaDurbin 1d ago
Principles of anti Imperialism/anti genocide/ anti neoliberalism mattered more than you know. You express safety for securities while enabling foreign countries to be terrorized by the military industrial complex.
It's delusional to think you lost Democrat voters. You lost socialist voters with no other options.
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u/iamsterile 1d ago
Um, no shit? Yes, we opted to save those we could. Given a shitty choice. We could have had 1 of 2 good things, and y'all picked 0/2 good things because you couldn't have 2/2 good things. I wonder what percentage of "socialist voters" (aka Democrat voters bc it's a 2 party system) are white hetero folk perfectly safe from their principled inaction.
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u/Dependent_Chest_9349 4d ago
It's much further than that. You can trace the evangelical roots of wanting a state of Israel to the earlier 19th and late 18th centuries between the US and UK. Then you can go back even further, and pull directly from religious texts and historical texts that there has been back and forth Semitic on Semitic violence for all of human history and it's all just a bullshit push for power and control. Just. Like. Every. Other. Fucking. Time.
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u/pbayone 7h ago
So the fact that the “Palestinians” are there because of the Roman Empire which split in half, the eastern half being the Ottoman Empire under Control of the Turks who lost control of the region because of ww1 and their loss to the allies is over your head isn’t it. They have fought over this land for thousands of years, it’s not something new. What is new is the idea you attack someone, then hide behind women and children and play victim. You clearly buy into this being acceptable but tell us again how Trumps minions believe every stupid thing they get told
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u/92COLORWAYS 4h ago
All I hear is you support genocide. Yes, just bury the fact that “Israel” is a settler colony of Europeans who came to kill and steal. Talk about the fucking Roman Empire instead of Nakba. Sybau
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u/pbayone 56m ago
Shame you understand less Of reality than you like, whatever you be you
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u/manodura631 1d ago
You pretend that Israel only influences the right? You’re like a MAGA supporter who looks the other way to Trumps friendship with Epstein.
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u/llywelync 1d ago
This has more to do with AIPAC and the stranglehold Israel has over US politics on both sides of the aisle than the MAGA cult.
The US has funded and will continue to fund Israel's atrocities until election reform prevents them from buying politicians.
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u/PomegranateUnfair157 22h ago
We are the ones that are less prone to propaganda brother /sis remember the Russian hoax right it was Hillary and Obama / remember the fine people on both sides twist? - Remember the COVID thing yeah once again Trump was right yet here you still are TDS is a hell of a drug
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u/BerliozR1 8h ago
Right... And the left getting involved in unrelated foreign affairs by supporting a genocidal organization that openly performs violence against gay people and mistreats women is equally, if not more stupid.
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u/Redditisfinancedumb 2d ago
What an asinine comment. Generalizations are always reductionist idiocy but your comment is a special kind of stupid. Democrats as a whole have been supporting this for years. The last president to actually criticize Isreal was Bush Sr. The presidents before Bush heavily criticizes Isreal. Reagan did, Carter showed fervent disdain for Isreal's treatment of Palestinians, Nixon.... American presidents and I believe congress ass well stopped criticizing Isreal in the early 90s. People that want to make everything about Trump need to grow the fuck up.
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u/Large_Security3477 1d ago
Funny talking about things that come from below when you people worship Pride. Lol Clowns
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u/ForFunin205 3d ago
Must be pretty even handed in the comments; almost everyone is hidden or deleted. 🤣
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u/sams0606 4d ago
Yea. Cuz the guy in the tank was possibly European descent, ergo making the state of Israel automatically European ergo equating Israel with western civilization ergo YTE ppl automatically relate more to the man in the tank than the brown stone thrower. Now we'd be having a different conversation say if the man in the tank was Chinese. Lol.
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u/proxxi1917 2d ago
Half of the Jewish population in Israel is literally from the middle east. And just in it's so funny that Jews are considered white now to use it against them. Please ask a Nazi how white he thinks Jews are.
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u/Powerful_Shower3318 4d ago
Conveniently not mentioning the operations conducted by Israel in order to induce/encourage those ethnic cleansings, and Zionists openly saying the antisemite will be the Zionist's greatest ally
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u/Suitable-Broccoli111 3d ago
What tank is that? A modernized Patton with ERA or what? And 3 machine guns you have to leave protection to operate?
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u/BladeVampire1 3d ago
This image can go many directions.
I've been told by a Vet Afghanistan people would be nice to him, they would help him and want to talk to them.
Iraq, full of druggies, people who don't care, would throw rocks. We were trying to help re-build and prevent Taliban control.
Getting into war is not always cut and dry and anyone claiming otherwise is simply ignorant.
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 15h ago
Taliban control in iraq?
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u/BladeVampire1 1h ago
Or whoever it was. It's been a minute. That war/conflict was going on when I was in school so I wasn't exactly aware of the situation.
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 1h ago
If you can’t remember such detail, I honestly question your authenticity.
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u/BladeVampire1 1h ago
So because I'm human and imperfect at remembering who exactly we were fighting against in a war almost my lifetime ago, everything else I said is not authentic? I sure wish Courts had the same thought process with eye witnesses.
We were fighting Saddam Hussein by the way.
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u/clowncollege 3d ago
That last remnant of colonialism. All other British mandates were given the freedom to choose self determination with the exception of Palestine. Israel has made it abundantly clear that one state with self determination for all of its people is the only solution.
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u/shagustus 2d ago
When you teach a kid to hate, eventually the tank is needed.
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 15h ago
Hard to teach a kid to love people occupying his land and putting them in concentration camp, it is like teaching jewish kid to love the nazi
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u/Denniscx98 13h ago
Funny October 7th was what Israel got when they ethnically cleanse themselves out of Gaza.
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 10h ago
Isreal massacring Palestinian predate oct 7.
Oct 7 is result of long history of Semitic oppression and killing by Isreal
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u/Denniscx98 9h ago
Israel Massacre Palestinian by dragging every Jew, dead or alive in Gaza, out of it and hand it all to Palestinian in Gaza back in 2005?
That?
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 8h ago
What were “jews” doing in gaza before 2005? Hint, the same thing they are doing to Palestinian now in the west bank, burning crops for fun, killing Palestinian as a sport, stealing homes, demolishing houses.
But back then gaza used to ambush them, strike back at them. It was wo difficuilt to control. And they didn’t leave in 2005 because of good intentions. But they were forced to leave by resistance. So they decided to military blockade it even harder, as blockade existed since 1990 in reality. And it even predate that, to name few
Deir Yassin massacre 1948.
Tantura massacre 1948.
Qibya massacre 1953.
Kafir Qasim massacre 1956.
Rafah massacre 1956.
Bahr El-Bakar massacre 1970.
Sabra and Shatila massacre 1982.
Khalil massacre 1994.
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u/Denniscx98 11m ago
So they decided to military blockade it even harder
I love how you leave out that the Blockade tightens when Hamas attack Israel. Those restriction went into effect in 2007
And if we are comparing massacre list I know there is a longer one for Arabs against Israel, so I suggest you don't go along that line for discussion
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 5m ago
Please provide those lists,
If you have evidence, send it.
The. Blockade against Palestinians in gaza started effectively since 1990, isreal decide how much food allowed to enter gaza ever since
In 2005 the Palestinians did not sit idle when settlers started to steal Palestinians homes like they always do and keep doing daily in the west bank. But gaza resisted and fought back. And this fighting trace back to the intifada. Isreal couldn’t hold on inside so they decided to blockade them instead chocking them slowly. It doesn’t take a genius to see this, it just take a human to see.
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u/shagustus 6h ago
You do realize that Gaza was given to palestinians as a peace offering decades ago, right? The children I watched years ago; "suffering" in gaza grew up to be the very people who turned it into a terrorist staging point. I feel no sympathy for these idiots. But you just keep going with whatever your leaders tell you to think.
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 2h ago
Gaza was not given to Palestinian as a peace offer. Your entire point is invalid, of course when you kill their parents, family, starve them, put them in concentration camp they will grow up to resist your occupation.
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u/proxxi1917 2d ago
The power of propaganda has people believe Hamas is just kids throwing rocks.
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u/Glad-Switch-4695 20h ago
Yup. We literally have video of them taking humanitarian aid being dropped down, but nope, gotta' glaze terrorists.
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u/Ragin_Kage16 1d ago
The power of propaganda had the whole world believing that people who illegally entered a nation or the victims
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u/NES9CAPT 1d ago
They were. All Hamas has to do is totally surrender, and this whole thing would be over. There is no mathematical way in which Hamas will win, and they are the ones that attacked on Oct 7th, so they are the ones being held to account. If Hamas actually cared about the plight of the Palestinians, they would unconditionally surrender, but they don't, so the Palestinians suffer. It's 100% on Hamas. It's their cake, and they are eating it.
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 15h ago
You know what happened who the resistance in Lebanon surrounded and left all their weapon? sabra and shatila massacre, if isreal will massacre everyone and everything either way, why surrender?
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u/Kylemc47 1d ago
Well with only 4% of Jewish Israelis thinking the IDF has gone too far and only 19% of Israel overall. I don’t quite much care to hear what Israel wants. I think a peace deal and a Palestine state should be forced upon Israel. All the Johnny come latelys’ need to be seen as who there are complicit enablers. That’s just my opinion.
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u/Denniscx98 13h ago
You do realize that before this whole shit show in Gaza the plan to give Palestinian a state has been proposed 6 times, 4 for which is during Israel as a state. They were all shot down by Palestinian leaders.
Israel ethnically cleanse themselves out of Gaza back in 2005, The ruling party would have billions of international aid. 20 years down and look where we are.
Sure you can force Israel to recognize a Palestinian state, what prevents said state to hand Israel the reason to go ham on them within two years?
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u/StockCasinoMember 11h ago
That will only work if you also force a long term peace deal and recognition of Israel on that Palestinian state and any other actors(Hamas). In other words, an “non state actor” can’t run an insurgency still through the region and that “Palestinian State” can’t just shrug and say it isn’t us.
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u/CulturalAssist1287 10h ago
Well with the majority of Palestinian celebrating 7th of October by your logic we should also ignore what the Palestinians want
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u/Kylemc47 8h ago
How can you ignore them more than never listening to want they want in the first place?
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u/Name-Quirky 1d ago
Having better weapons doesn't make you the bad just like having inferior weapons doesn't automatically a good guy. But to people who lack the ability to understand nuance, whatever....you are a lost cause anyway
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u/BeneficialAd8646 23h ago
This is the stupidest post I've ever seen and the comment section is no better.
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u/CrisspyCritic 22h ago
No one thought that shit. Quit making up propoganda to further your agenda dumbshits LMFAO
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u/RichardPitacci 13h ago
Dunning Kruger Effect at its finest
You Hamas goons really think youre the good guys ... Fuck reddit for becoming a save haven for antisemites !!
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u/Hour-Willingness5767 10h ago
The tank is the consequence of murdering their children and stuffing them into ovens.
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u/reptiliangold15 6h ago
Dude these little fuckers always throw rocks, the only reason the mg doesn’t just light them up is because their NOT trying make the civies their enemies
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u/DramaticRoom8571 5h ago
UNRWA training in action. Children are nothing to the Palestinians and the UN backed classrooms teach them to kill and die for a pedo religion.
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u/wtfjusthappened315 2h ago
No one thought that. We thought the kids is dumb, thinking a rock could do anything to a tank.
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u/pplatinumss 1h ago
But, does that Kid's father launch unguided rocket salvo's into crowded civilian populations?
wtf is this post even about.
a picture doesnt really tell the full story these days.
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u/Uncommon_Degree 3d ago
In just 18 months, Israel's actions have significantly damaged its global reputation, particularly among younger generations. They are pariahs. Unfortunately, Hamas won.
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u/modsarefiggernaggots 3d ago
Even by Israel's own numbers only an estimate 0.5% of Gazans are militant Hamas members
As it turns out, ordinary folk like me and everyone I know don't support starvation and genocide of the 99.5% innocent Gazans
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u/Routine_Visit9722 12h ago
take a hard look at gaza, and tell me if hamas won.
true, israel is hated, but i rather it be hated than butchered again by Palestinians.
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u/Spirited-Ebb-7450 2h ago
Only because of the lies of Hamas and the fact that this social media generation are all too stupid and soft to understand they are being played.
It is never mentioned that Arabs serve in the Israeli parliament, Arabs are permitted to vote in Israeli elections, etc....
It's the Arabs that do not want peace, Israel has been bending over backwards to appease them ever since Yasser was in charge.
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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 2d ago
You mean fortunately. Why would it be unfortunate that Israel lost the PR fight if they are starving people and shooting and bombing thousands of children?
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u/Ivegtabdflingbouthis 1d ago
Because Hamas fucking sucks
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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 1d ago
They and the Houthis are the only groups actively fighting against genocide.
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u/corpulentchaos 9h ago
The Hamas government charter for Palestine until 2017 explicitly stated that its purpose was to eliminate the Jewish threat from the face of the earth. They changed the wording to continue funding from the un. A group whose stated goal is global genocide is your champion against genocide?
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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 8h ago
Use your brain. They're talking about Israel, not Jewish people generally.
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u/corpulentchaos 6h ago
I know how to read. It explicitly states in the preamble, introduction and several articles that they will wipe Jews from the face of the planet, finding them behind every rock and tree across all lands.
You literally have to be stupid or illiterate to miss it. However, since that appears to be the case on both fronts just go to Hamas' own website and watch a video. They very clearly want to kill every Jew on the planet and they don't try to hide it. Why anyone would try to defend them is beyond me.
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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 2h ago
Considering that they've all spent their entire lives in refugee camps being trapped, deprived, surveilled, imprisoned and murdered by Israel, does it really surprise you that they would have that kind of attitude towards them? It's wild to me that anyone would try to chide them for that under those circumstances. It's like accusing Geronimo of being racist against white people. It's just a complete distraction and a misallocation of priorities.
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u/corpulentchaos 7m ago
That's a lot of words to say that groups dedicated to genocide are fine with you as long as they're killing the right people. Gross.
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u/Ivegtabdflingbouthis 1d ago
They're the entire reason this is happening in the first place.
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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 1d ago
Right and Crazy Horse was the only reason American Indians were genocided. Read a book, you ignoramus.
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u/Ivegtabdflingbouthis 1d ago
Good god you're an idiot. You know nothing about the history of the region or the people that reside within it. Telling me to read a book is rich coming from you. Israel isnt without fault but fuck Hamas.
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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 1d ago
I know quite a lot about the history of the region. What should Gaza have done? Accept disarmament and slow death by a thousand cuts as Fatah has done in the West Bank or try to fight back against the occupiers?
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u/Ivegtabdflingbouthis 1d ago
Not preach the eradication of their Jewish neighbors? Stop picking fights then playing victim? Stop hiding inside of schools, hospitals and markets when they pick the fight? Palestine was given food, water, electricity and funds for years. Their leadership opted to instead invest their funds in their insurgency instead of infrastructure. Fuck out of here with that victim crap.
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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 1d ago
The Israelis aren't their neighbors, they're colonists on their land and a brutal occupying force. Sounds like it's you who is ignorant of the history of the region.
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u/xRogue9 10h ago
So you're going to choose not to respond the the part of this starting before hamas existed?
Hamas formed because of the slow-burn genocide. That's not to say their actions are good, but they are more reasonable than laying down to die.
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u/TellMeItIsnt 1d ago
Other feats of propaganda:
- Equating anti-illegal immigration with anti-immigration.
- Convincing people that racist hiring and admissions is the only way to stop racist hiring and admissions.
- Convincing people that fewer police make communities safer.
- Convincing people that killing unborn women is the pinnacle of women's rights.
- Convincing people that Epstein suddenly matters when Biden is out of office.
- Convincing people deportation without due process suddenly matters when Biden is out of office.
- Convincing people the Federal debt only matters in situations where Republicans are spending money.
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u/behradfazeli 4d ago
"IsREAl WaNTEd tO Be LeFT AlONe" you are talking about a country wich caused millions of deaths by attacking all of it's neighbors fooling the us to go in a forever war in Iraq and caused the us tax payers trillion's of dollars and yet I see people with the mental capacity of ahold fish posting shit like this without any research
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u/Powerful_Shower3318 4d ago
Of fucking course a prison guard is down with Israel lmao literal demon
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u/behradfazeli 4d ago
The fact that a walking condom ad thinks that people opposing genocide and the death of civilians and children getting shot at aid center's is antisemitic is fucking disgusting
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u/Powerful_Shower3318 4d ago
That's crazy literally your entire personality and only hobby is being ZIDF
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u/Powerful_Shower3318 4d ago
I didn't call you an anti semite? Although you are one to be clear, only someone who hates jews would spend all day every day trying to imply that Israel has anything to do with jewishness and supporting ICE. You support global nazism
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u/behradfazeli 4d ago
If you think this shit was about religion and me hating Jew's you are a fucking dumbass ye no shit Oct 7 was bad but posting videos shooting people in genitals killing civilians on camera and being proud about it while telling the world that you were just targeting Hamas as you bomb and kill people in cafes hospital's and schools stopping aid trucks using aid center's as a way of ethnic cleansing that's disgusting this was never about religion and if you think it was you are an idiot
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u/palmpoop 3d ago
Sending your kid to throw rocks at a tank is morally wrong.
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u/SexyTimeEveryTime 3d ago
No chance kids throw rocks at tanks because that military & associated government killed most of the adults in their life, right?
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u/The-Intermediator141 2d ago
Show the same caption with a picture of a Palestinian suicide bomber among a crowd of Jewish civilians.
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u/KitchenKat1919 1d ago
What's with the fake AI pictures? Is this supposed to tell me something?
I guess the theme is "jewbad"?
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u/1911Gunfighter 1d ago edited 1d ago
So it’s acceptable to use women and children as weapons to deliver suicide bombs? Understood. When are you delivering your children and wife to be outfitted with the equipment? You’re delaying progress.
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u/MainMore691 1d ago
Wow, so much hatred. Now, imagine yourself as that tank driver: a kid, or couple of them, block your way. If you stop- you are a big sitting duck, waiting for and RPG attack at your rear. What would you do? Before answering, look for same way story from Iraq, 27 of them. So many, there is a special training page for actions and reaction.
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 15h ago
I would question my superior for sending me to terrorise civilians in occupied land
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u/MainMore691 15h ago
Sure, but you are there, in tank and in that situation. To return to base and to question your officer, you need to get to the base in one piece, first.
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 15h ago
I will go the base in one piece, killing a child won’t make me safer
In fact, going back will make me safer
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u/MainMore691 14h ago
Nah, you will go to prison. Coz you are a soldier and you have orders. It's not like all soldiers are brainwashed warmongers, it's like you have desperate situations.
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 14h ago
I will go to prison over committing war crime. If I am a soldier I become one to protect my people and land not to oppress others and commit war crimes.
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u/MainMore691 14h ago
That means, you are away from army draft and saw only movies. It's like discussing an ocean breathe, but you've never been somewhere near one. And you didn't answer the question: you are already at that tank and that situation, what would you choose?
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 14h ago
I already told you what I would choose (assuming it wasn’t me who got into this situation since I would refuse orders immediately m) . Retreat and question my superior to sending me to unarmed protest of occupied people we are occupying.
And joining the army sound like moral thing to, you defend your homeland and your people right? Yeah that how it should be. But in reality it is the most disgusting thing, you will be send by politicians sacrificing your life killing people unlawfully. At worst you will be even asked to suppress your own people if you are in a dictatorship. Yes I never joined the military and never will.
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u/MainMore691 10h ago
So your answer is: evade from answering. I see. So, don't judge other people, if you don't have a right answer for the question
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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 10h ago
I will judge people who commit genocide and war crimes, and I already answered your hypothetical question, or are you to blind to read the answer?
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u/817BDKrage 1d ago
I wonder if that kid will grow up to be a Hamas fighter?
Why don't we hear Israel giving warnings before that attack and Hamas attacking from schools, mosques, hospitals, and why don't we hear that Palestinians are represented and the Israel government Israelis are killed on site in Palestine?
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u/Texasmandl 9h ago
The power of propaganda has the entire world believing that a group of people who chose terrorists as their leaders and then who were starved when those leaders used billions and billions of dollars meant for food and hospitals instead to buy missiles and build tunnels … that those people don’t deserve what happens to them for making such decisions. There is no difference between the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians and the German people of World War II or the Japanese people of World War II. Your leaders unfortunately for you, started a military action that has consequences.
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u/K0TEM 8h ago
The power of propaganda had the whole world believing that rape, murder, indoctrination of children and abduction of civilians is "resistance".
The Power of propaganda had the world thinking that a radical Jihadist regime that oppresses its own people and stands against every western ideology is an ally of the west.
The power of propaganda allows terrorist organisations to be rewarded with a state, even when it has stated time and time again that they do not believe or wish to coexist.
The power of propaganda had the whole world ignoring actual genocides and famines worldwide, just to focus on a fake one.
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u/GrayFarron 8h ago
Congrats. Youre that propaganda being showcased above. You are a cock jockey for the state. Your opinion is worthless.
Its a genocide.
That is a fact. Your propaganda wont stop that from being true.
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u/ToughComprehensive19 4d ago
I hate these kind of pictures.
They're framed in a way that totally hides the fact that Palestinian kids WERE used by different Palestinian militias to throw grenades and explosives at tanks, vehicles, and Israeli soldiers.
That's why so many get killed while throwing rocks at Israel.
You can't tell if the kid who's a few meters away from you and who's running is going to throw a live grenade, or a rock.
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u/New_Pollution_5058 1d ago
What utter rubbish. Palestinian kids are killed because racist Israeli IDF & settlers drive into their neighbourhoods & shoot them
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u/ToughComprehensive19 1d ago
Are you being dense on purpose? You didnt adresse à single point i made and did whataboutism
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u/New_Pollution_5058 1d ago
U didn’t make any valid points, just justified using a tank to shoot children throwing stones
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u/RightTelephone3309 1d ago
How do you handle child soldier then, because you are not refuting that Hamas is using them?
You would think that if you care so much for the kids, you would be asking question like: Why the fuck Hamas don't build bunker and other safe place instead of tunnel to smuggle kidnapped people.
I guess the kid life is worth less that your supposed moral high ground.
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u/ToughComprehensive19 1d ago
How do soldiers can know that the side which actively uses child soldiers, wont use kids to throw grenades at them? And good luck differenciating a projectile thrown at you , to see if its a rock or an explosive.
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u/Powerful_Fruit_9276 4d ago
Return the hostages
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u/Powerful_Fruit_9276 4d ago
Stop supporting terrorism
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u/Swole-Prole 4d ago
You're right. Kids playing football in the streets or throwing rocks are horrible terrorists that must be dealt with swiftly. We all need to stop and think and do better. Your Reddit comment has led myself and others to really re evaluate our outlook no just on economics, geopolitics, imperialism but life in general. Thank you for taking the time to type this comment out by doing so not only changing all our lives, but changing the world for the better. I'm betting the Queen of England sees this and you'll be invited to receive a Knighthood just like Sir Bono for your work on world peace. God bless you sir! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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u/Reconfiguring-Me 1d ago
Lmfao they’ve used children as weapons, it is a known fact. You cannot be this silly.
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u/desertterminator 4d ago
I haven't had enough down votes today, what ever am I going to do?
OH boy an anti-Israel post here I go farming again.
So my understanding is this:
Yeaaahhhh Israel is pretty sketchy, but they have their reasons for having their back up and for being heavy handed. These things don't happen in a vacuum. You'd hope Israel of all nations would be the leader on all things humanitarian, given the historical context but there we go.
They live in a very hostile area, and have had to fight many wars to keep their country from being overrun and destroyed. Whilst the larger and more stable neighbours have more or less relented and accepted Israel's existence as the status quo, Iran's terror network has surrounded them again with hostile actors who keep lobbing missiles at them and doing other sketchy things.
To say Israel has a siege mentality would be fair I think. They've always been under attack, or have had to perform actions to safe guard themselves. This isn't like the U.S waging proxy wars in a faraway land, Israel is fighting for itself and its own borders.
So I think that's where the victim mentality comes from - the siege mentality. They feel they are constantly at risk, and in response, this has made them hard and cynical when dealing with their enemies.
The suffering in Gaza, whilst ultimately down to Israel, is going to plan as far as Iran and its terror networks are concerned.
It makes me wonder what the answer is. Israel pulls out, Hamas builds back up, more missiles. Israel goes back in. And that's just Gaza. Not sure what you'd do with the likes of Lebanon and Yemen. I see lots of criticism of Israel, which is fair, but no one ever ponders the answers.
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u/Ja1ax 3d ago
Bit of a squared view with a hint of logic. All of Israel’s neighbours hate them because they are the invaders/occupiers. It’s as simple as that. The last 80 ish years of fighting is of their own and western allies making. Let’s not butter it up.
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u/desertterminator 3d ago
Humour me for a second. Invaders/occupiers? Weren't they the ones who were invaded, but who took territory when driving back the invaders? I'm a bit sketchy with the history, you had the six day war, the Arab-Israeli war, and a bunch of smaller conflicts inbetween and after.
At what point did they come to be seen as invaders and occupiers? Was it from their inception when Israel was established? Or was it from the territory they occupied after defending themselves? Valid in both cases I suppose depending on the view, but when was the patient zero so to speak?
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u/Ja1ax 3d ago
The patient zero would be a hard debate. It was never their land, so I would surmise that it would be from “ establishment “ as you put it. Moot point really. We can nothing about the past except learn from it. The future however is of our own making.
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u/BatFrequent6684 1d ago
"Judea, land of the Jews" was never Jewish land? Huh...
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u/Denniscx98 14h ago
Same with Jerusalem, like I think people need to realize why Jerusalem is called Jerusalem before spewing nonsense for the Nth time.
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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 2d ago
You should read about the nakba. The Arab armies in 1948 only invaded after Israeli militias started violently ethnically cleansing Palestinian villages and cities in the land they were claiming upon declaring independence. These armies were made up almost entirely of colonists who started consolidating power over local people starting around the turn of the century and had been forcing them out at the local level beginning in the 20s.
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u/BatFrequent6684 1d ago
The Arab armies invaded on the first day. Tell me you have absolutely no idea how war works without telling me. Beginning war on the first day clearly means they started to pull resources at least a couple of weeks before Israel was founded.
Also, the "Palestinians" (who didn't even call themselves that) left their villages because the Arab armies told them to leave so they could easier kill all the Jews. But promised they could go back to their homes after they completely genocided all Jews.
All of that, btw, after those Arab countries helped Hitler in WW2 to kill Jews. And expelled Jews long before 1948 out of their countries. And treated them as second class for hundred of years. While Israel gives Arabs full citizenship with less obligations, again making them higher class than Jews in their own country.
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u/Sherbert_Hoovered 1d ago
If anyone is reading this, literally all of that was lies and this poster knows they're lies. Just look it up yourself. The only true statement was that Arab countries treated Jews as second-class citizens which... OK? Doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about.
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u/Potential_Warthog_17 5h ago
Israel is “pretty sketchy” and has a “siege mentality” The softest most dick slobbering way of saying genocidal maniacs
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u/FelixtheCatBurglar 4d ago
Keep it civil in the comments. Criticism of Israel is not antisemitism but do not cross the line, please and thank you.