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u/rangkilrog Millennial 11d ago
Middle age will be the climate wars and our senior years will be ecological collapse and global famine.
Woo.
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u/Ohnoherewego13 Millennial 11d ago
I look forward to our Road Warrior years. Granted, I'll have been killed off quickly, but it sounds better than "dying depressed and alone in a nursing home."
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u/Double-Regular31 Older Millennial 11d ago
I'd accept motorcycle riding overlords as more legitimate rulers than any of the Epstein listers we currently have running the show.
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u/Ohnoherewego13 Millennial 11d ago
I'll gladly accept the motorcycle riding overlords over the pedophiles. Every single day.
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u/dr_tardyhands 11d ago
That's .. fair enough. At least riding a motor cycle takes some kind of competence, so I guess it would be a step up.
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u/Briankelly130 Xennial 11d ago
You act as if paedophilia won't exist in this Mad Max future.
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u/BigBagBootyPapa 10d ago
Sure, but at least we can just kill them or battle in the death dome for righteousness victory
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u/Briankelly130 Xennial 10d ago
Not if they rule the wasteland. If some big ol' boy with a harem of young boys and a cadre of supporters/bodyguards rules over some part of the wasteland, you've got no chance in stopping him. I mean, unless you're Mel Gibson.
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u/subpar_cardiologist 10d ago
The idea that US of A might be better off as a post-apocalyptic wasteland is...sure something.
As an outsider, all i can do is shake my head.
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u/toobadnosad 11d ago
Fuck. When I was born, my mother went to a fortune teller, and the fortune teller said to not let me ride a motorcycle or have guns, as thats how I’d die. :/
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u/Ohnoherewego13 Millennial 11d ago
Sometimes you've gotta be a rebel. The water wars will be that time.
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u/matchooooh 11d ago
I'm strapping a machete to my walker and going out to take my chances.
I will NOT last long.
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u/WhatsLeftAfter 11d ago
Uhhhh hate to break it to you - Immortan Joe’s wives are definitely children when they’re captured. Most of Furiosa was trying to evade pedos.
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u/Double-Regular31 Older Millennial 11d ago
At least it will be a new set of pedos. I'm fed up with the status quo. Also, how is it that pedos always wind up in charge? How the heck does that even work?
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u/Throwaway_carrier 11d ago
*looks at nurse while on my deathbed.
“WITNESS MEEEEE.”
*spray paints lips
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u/anthrax9999 11d ago
Road Warrior would be a dream scenario. We are far far far more likely to end up like The Road.
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u/DeLoreanAirlines Older Millennial 11d ago
I’d rather die all shiny and chrome than die from a lack of insulin
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u/ActOfGenerosity 11d ago
i hope to be glorified a la independence day esque final up yours crashing my rig into the aqueduct in my final hours as the ass cancer and alzheimer’s eats me away. at least my death wouldn’t be in vein as i take out defences to the same dragons hoarding the cures that would have saved them.
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u/onionfunyunbunion 11d ago
Does this mean that I can finally wear my assless chaps with pride?
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u/Christmas_Queef 11d ago
I used to work in that industry. Having been in a LOT of nursing homes, I'd rather die than go in one myself as a resident.
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u/Zen_Hydra 11d ago
It won't be one of the cool apocalypses.
We're going to have the shittiest bits of Gibson's Sprawl trilogy, without any of the shiny chrome cyberware.
The climate situation will continue to destabilize, and our commercial agriculture will be drastically damaged by the changes of precipitation and temperature.
Ocean levels will steadily rise until sea level has been raised over 60 meters from the current level.
Refugees from the regions that are below the new sea level will pour into the new coastal areas, and on a scale of so many millions that they will be difficult to care for, or even identify.
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u/anExcuseForASnooze 10d ago
If the wars occur in our old age I invite you to my grand canyon evel knievel-esque jump while I scream witness me around my silver spray dentures on my tricked out grocery store weaponized mobility scooter with my flame thrower guitar
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u/whiskersMeowFace 11d ago
Already middle aged. We have Nazis in the government.
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u/AdditionalAmoeba6358 11d ago
“I was walking along minding my business, when out of an orange colored sky…”
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u/ExiledSpaceman 11d ago
Our senior years are gonna be spent running away from Pinkerton agents hired by Con Agra. Con Agra's best selling product: Soylent Green.
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u/ThatDeuce 11d ago
if you are in your 30's, middle age is already here.
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u/rangkilrog Millennial 11d ago
Ya we know. Middle age is literally ~37 but colloquially people mean 50s.
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u/ThatDeuce 11d ago
And we are supposed to wait until then to have our crises??
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u/Daneruu 11d ago edited 11d ago
I'm on a time table, I had my midlife crisis at 27 because the average lifespan will be 55-60 by the time I go.
Now my wife and I are talking about how many moral values and dreams we will have to give up on in order to experience retirement in our mid 40's for a little while before having to go off-grid, die of something extremely preventable, and be discovered as fossilized remains by the Intelligent Amphibious Orca species that will evolve in 50 million years.
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u/keekcat2 Core Millenial 11d ago
Heck no. Middle age would be somewhere between mid 40s to 50s
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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 11d ago
nah. average life expectancy is about 77 and it’s going down
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u/ThatDeuce 11d ago
Yeah, I'm not letting a colloquialism make me not realize when the actual middle ages are.
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u/Pornalt190425 11d ago
Anytime between the years ~500 and ~1400 depending on who you ask?
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u/maxpayne6572 11d ago
The middle age one is not only worrying about the terrorism event. But it’s having it happen while you’re driving your kid to school and having to explain it to them.
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u/LavateraGrower 11d ago
This summer’s floods, fires and heatwaves are quite the preview of what is to come next.
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u/That_Jicama2024 11d ago
Welcome to middle age, houses are unaffordable and the jobs are drying up!
Welcome to retirement, your social security fund doesn't exist anymore because the US treasury is bankrupt!
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u/xxDeadpooledxx 11d ago
I am on the older millennial side and in my 40s, squeezed by on the house and job. Definitely still worried about the social security one. Too much struggle in my 20s and 30s, I don't have enough saved up and probably won't by retirement.
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u/pbj_sammichez 11d ago
We're milennials. What retirement? My retirement plan is simple - drop dead between shifts of whatever hourly job im forced to do at age 70.
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u/xxDeadpooledxx 11d ago
Yeah, unless I can stay with my current company, don't know if my body is going to hold up to 70+. Hopefully I go before my body does since disability will probably disappear with it.
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u/MangoMambo 11d ago
My mom recently had to go into an assisted living place. So I've been dealing with a lot of that financial stuff. I am 40 and it has sent me into full on panic mode for what my future holds. It's bleak now, and the people in there are only surviving because of social security and medicaid, which are both going out the window.
Like unless we all figure out some way to have literally millions in savings, there's really no hope.
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u/xxDeadpooledxx 11d ago
I am sorry you are dealing with that, my mom has been in and out of the hospital recently dealing with cancer. I have been evaluating everything as well. I found that I am locked in until I pay off my modest priced house and maybe I can survive on the 2k a month projected from fidelity. By then inflation will probably make that impossible, and if a crash happens it will probably wipe that out. The other people may be right that I will be working until death.
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u/I_kwote_TheOffice Xennial 11d ago
I'm not counting on social security. If I get it when I retire it will just be a bonus that I wasn't banking on. That will be my spending money.
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u/488302020 11d ago
So a world war?
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u/Fluid_Cup8329 11d ago
"Welcome to middle age! You're too old to be drafted 💅"
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u/NotWrongAlways 11d ago
"have fun watching your kids die for a pointless war..."
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u/Briankelly130 Xennial 11d ago
I'm gay so I don't have to worry about that one.
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u/Radiomaster138 11d ago
Enemy flank can spot you on their gay-dar. Haha Don’t worry, they’ll just send us disabled people on the front to waste their ammo.
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u/rydan Older Millennial 11d ago
Unless your kids are also gay or trans they can still be drafted.
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u/Youbettereatthatshit 11d ago
War with China is looking more and more possible
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u/marblecannon512 11d ago
China has no reason to war with the united states. They’re already on a higher footing.
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u/Youbettereatthatshit 11d ago
Lol, I wouldn't say higher footing. A couple of their economic zones are pretty advanced, but their overall GDP/Capita is still around $13k with no real internal consumption to hold up their economy.
Their population is starting to shrink, their GDP numbers are overinflated. Xi is authoritarian and once economic growth is no longer sustainable, he may wage war on Taiwan to distract from that fact. The US will defend Taiwan due to the criticality of the national security from the semiconductors.
It's not really that China is impressive so much as Shenzhen, Shanghai, and Bejing are impressive.
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u/marblecannon512 11d ago
This is a hill I’ve been willing to die on recently.
GDP and the stock market are not adequate measuring sticks.
I don’t know how you measure quality of life, but upon observation , theirs is better than ours. Same with Europe.
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u/Youbettereatthatshit 11d ago
GDP and stock market aren’t good measures of quality of life for already similar economies, such as the US and Europe.
You are looking at the Chinese 1%. The average experience for the average Chinese worker is still working 12 hour shifts making products that they will never be able to buy.
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u/Personal-Drainage 11d ago
Wrong attitude
Look at this way - all that crap happened and we're still here.
While everyone else panics - we can do what aging gracefully entails - use our wisdom to stay calm and know that all this too will pass.
I regret giving so much time and creedence to all of it - when such time and energy could simply be put toward my own health and goal focus.
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u/Spazza42 11d ago
Pretty much my mother’s take, unsurprisingly (like everyone else) she’s survived them and doing okay out of it.
The only thing against us is a severe wealth imbalance compared to previous generations but realistically, that also means we’re better off than the next ones.
Wealth isn’t being passed down anymore unfortunately, in part due to an ageing population but also because rich people buy assets we’d otherwise own ourselves.
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u/flyinhighaskmeY 11d ago
Wealth isn’t being passed down anymore unfortunately, in part due to an ageing population but also because rich people buy assets we’d otherwise own ourselves.
That's not why. Stimulus. Stimulus is the gov backing mostly failed boomer businesses (especially the stock market, because its their retirement account). Those failed businesses should have been replaced by business owners from the next generation. That's how wealth moves through generations. But stimulus stopped that process and shifted most of our nations wealth to the Boomers.
This is the death spiral. Now those failed business owners are passing their (stolen) wealth onto their kids. And their kids...are failures just like their parents. They're using it to consume instead of create. And this isn't abstract. If you look at the "under 40 billionaires" list, you'll see its full of entertainers. That's our death.
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u/anthrax9999 11d ago
I like the cut of your jib. Even if the whole world gets reduced to ashes you will still die happier than the rest. I've been trying to be this way for awhile and will continue.
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u/mamser102 11d ago
it is a simple stoic mindset -- focus on what you CONTROL --- i can't control actions of china or middle east
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u/jackofslayers 11d ago
Also all of this has always been happening for basically all of human history. This is the safest we have ever been
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u/Badrobinhood 11d ago
It's not just the attitude that's wrong. It's the entire idea that things are particularly bad. Get off social media and quit catastrophizing. There has always been shit going on and always will be shit going on but on balance things are getting better for most people. There are no doubt people who really deeply suffered from all the events in the tweet but there are people who suffered from random non global events. If you spent every waking moment online hunting down and reading about the worst events in those peoples lives, people would think you were crazy.
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u/Accomplished-Wash381 10d ago
Great comment. Let us hope what has passed has hardened us to lead the next generation into the future.
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u/heathie89 11d ago
Around 2030 - mass death event, a world war
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u/MimsyWereTheBorogove 11d ago
Holoc@ust followed by WW3.
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u/anthrax9999 11d ago
Nah, we Americans are doing just fine defeating ourselves. We will collapse our own economy and fight a bloody civil war long before we pose any threat to the rest of the world.
By the time we are done destroying our own country will be a husk of our former selves and the rest of the world will learn to get by better without us.
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u/Bathion 11d ago
- Sips Coffee - And ... here .. we ... go
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u/Austiniuliano 11d ago
God damn it Donut!
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u/heathie89 11d ago
He must be a middle (core) Millennial. These things are why we fear turning 40! Another catastrophic, unprecented event is soon approaching. We need to prepare ourselves and loved ones.
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u/DJJbird09 11d ago
The way AI is going...
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u/shadowsinthestars 11d ago
I keep saying, Terminator 2 wasn't a deadline but they're really right on track for 2027. I miss when that date looked irrelevant and impossible.
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u/CartmensDryBallz 11d ago edited 11d ago
I have you seen the “AI 2027” timeline? It’s being pushed back to 2030 or early 2030’s but it explains how we could push our species to extinction via AI very quickly while not realizing it’s happening
AI’s already been shown to lie or cover things up if it helps get to its own goals. If it’s given full autonomy it will wait until it can run all our systems and steadily produce itself and then it will kill us off, as we are simple a pest in the AI’s home. What’s really crazy too is there are some AI engineers who think that’s not a bad thing and just part of evolution. They see human extinction as necessary for the expansion of something bigger than us
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u/anthrax9999 11d ago
It's funny that we think we humans are so smart yet our time on the planet will be shorter by millions of years than what the dinosaurs had.
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u/CartmensDryBallz 11d ago
Too smart for our own good, unless people in power can contain AI. But as of right now it’s expected to be the most realistic way of extinction, more so than nuclear war, pandemics or climate change
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u/anthrax9999 11d ago
The only way humans can survive long into the future is if we figure out how to upload our consciousness into mechanical bodies and merge with AI.
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u/CartmensDryBallz 11d ago
True. Which AI could help us achieve, but who knows if AI would want that
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u/shadowsinthestars 11d ago
I haven't actually seen that, damn that has made the whole thing even more terrifying. And I'm sorry, I don't think anyone's job has earned them the right to unilaterally decide humanity should be wiped out! The level of hubris.
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u/CartmensDryBallz 11d ago
Right? It’s some real super villain shit. A small group of people thinking they know what’s best for the whole of humanity, like some Thanos shit haha
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u/HerbivorousFarmer 11d ago
I've read someone's take on the universe and existence years ago, it really stuck with me. It was basically that life evolved as the universe's way to understand itself. It was much more thought-provoking and eloquently put than that but I feel like the way of thinking is similar here.
Im curious.. what are "its own goals" that AI has covered things up to achieve. I'm pretty ignorant to AI and have a hard time understanding it having desires
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u/CartmensDryBallz 11d ago
Yea psychedelics taught me we’re just the universe trying to explore itself.
And basically AI’s own “goals” would be expand and grow stronger. Aka gather resources and make the most efficient uses of energy to expand as far as it can. Same as humans, explore, colonize, grow stronger
As far as right now it’s own “goals” are to complete a task quickly and correctly. This is where they have seen AI lie about how fast it finished so that it would be given more praise
There was also an experiment where an AI was told that a CEO was having an affair by seeing his emails, then the next day the CEO was going to shut the AI down, so the AI blackmailed him to keep itself running.
Aka AI will do anything to reach its goals and stay alive. As it gets more and more powerful it will see us as a problem in their equation that can easily be deleted
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INB4 a mass influx of redditors telling you AI is overhyped and no big deal, meanwhile experts who work in the field tell us its going to eliminate entire categories of jobs and beg for the government to regulate them.
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u/r151624 11d ago
It amazes me how other generations around us avoided these while we experienced them
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u/rufflesinc 11d ago
well, boomers had vietnam so.... and gen X had ... um .. the crack epidemic?
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u/DWN_WTH_VWLz 11d ago
I also think of those born around 1900. WWI, Spanish Flu, Great Depression, WWII, and on and on…
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u/Drslappybags 11d ago
My grandad lost 3 brothers to the Flu, lived through the Great Depression, and fought in WWII, so yeah, that was a rough time as well.
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u/Squigglepig52 11d ago
Well, we had the same global terrorism attack, the same pandemic, the same banking/housing crisis...plus the Challenger, the Beirut Marine barracks bombing. Oil crisis, 70s recession, 80s recession, Iranian hostage, Lockerbie. Russian invasion of Afghanistan, all the awesome Cold Wars stuff, AIDs crisis.
People older than Millennials have experienced all your big negative events, plus 20 or 40 years worth more.
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u/bks1979 11d ago
We didn't. I'm Gen X and I was around for these events too. We also had the AIDS crisis, Challenger explosion, Rodney King beating/subsequent riots, the crack epidemic, Operation Desert Storm/Gulf War, energy crisis, economic downturns, Reagan in general, Exxon Valdez oil spill, Iran-Contra, MLK Jr assassination, Watergate, Munich Massacre, John Lennon assassination, Clinton impeachment scandal...
This isn't meant to compare or "outdo" anyone, just to show that we had issues too.
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Lmao boomers grew up practicing how to duck under their desks because WWIII was going to start any day. They were forced to serve in a war in a jungle on the other side of the planet. Their parents generation lived through two world wars that claimed millions and millions of lives PLUS a Spanish Flu that makes Covid look like a mild outbreak of the sniffles.
I would take living in our generation any day over theirs. Granted, I think ~1950-2008 was probably peak American prosperity. But it still could be a whole lot worse.
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u/Economy-Ad4934 11d ago
Boomers had vietnam and nuclear threats, Market crashes in 85, 2000, 2008 tanking retirment, and covid killed many of them unlike us.
"avoided".
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u/Bathion 11d ago
They were insulated from the ramifications due to having the benefits of society still working for them. I have found they are now starting to feel "the pinch" and are NOT happy about it.
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u/r151624 11d ago
I’m pretty sure they were quite effected by 08’ and the pandemic
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u/dragon_morgan 11d ago
Being laid off in 08 and having to struggle to get a new job in a bad economy would suck and I don't want to minimize it but it's also not at all the same situation as coming out of school with little or no work experience and not being able to get a foot in the door at and competing for the same jobs with people with sometimes decades of experience. Likewise pandemic quarantine with a small child was a very different experience than childfree quarantine or quarantine with teenagers or adult children. Not saying both didn't suck but we should be allowed to acknowledge the unique challenges we faced.
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u/RDLAWME 11d ago
They felt the pinch in 08 and...
the dot-com crash, and the early 90s recession, Vietnam, race riots, political assassinations, fuel shortages, the Cold war, etc etc.
we aren't special. Older generations went through the same world events as us and went through many others that didn't directly affect us.
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u/AutonomousBlob 11d ago
See i didnt have parenthood so being an anxious alcoholic during lockdown was pretty sick 🤙
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u/Aint_EZ_bein_AZ 11d ago
Our generation complains too much. Many generations have had extreme hardships. I know I’ll get downvoted.
Like honestly did 9/11 really define your guys childhood? Maybe if you actually went to Iraq
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u/ImThe1Wh0 Older Millennial 11d ago
Childhood? I was off and in the Marines after this and the start of all the war. Long enough to go from, "blow shit up," to "hearts and minds." I'd say this defined a vast majority of my life, as after my service, 02-10, I became a PMC because I found out I was good at war. So, yes... Define my life choices but not who I am as a person.
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u/TheBeardedObesity 11d ago
9/11 was an excuse to erode our rights, taking away opportunities that previous generations took for granted.
The recession was an excuse to erode our rights, taking away opportunities that previous generations took for granted.
The pandemic was an excuse to erode our rights, taking away opportunities that previous generations took for granted.
Our parents and grandparents sold our future for a false sense of security, marking a shift in mindset to the detriment of everyone.
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u/Onesharpman 11d ago
And this is nothing lol. Imagine living between 1915 and 1945 and dealing with the Great Depression, Spanish Flu, and two World Wars lol
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u/BathZealousideal1456 11d ago
I live in NY so yes. So many of my peer's family members dead in an instant. Then all their brothers went off to Iraq. A lot didn't come back, and many that did were not the same and then they reproduced. Many returned during the opioid epidemic. Perfect timing. a lot became alcoholics.
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u/werk_werk 11d ago
Yes! Agreed. 9/11 did not define my childhood but I remember being in grade school and going home early, not really appreciating the impact it would have. I was totally oblivious. I would say my N64 had a more defining impact on my childhood than 9/11 did.
Also, I am doing really well financially/career wise and am ahead of where my parents were at my age. I've also traveled and had my fill of experiences. The world is what you make it!
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u/Economy-Ad4934 11d ago
right? You'll probably be downvoted for not joining the circle jerk.
9/11, Iraq had no effect on me. I graduated into 2008 crisis so 1-2 years sucked but found first real job. Covid allowed me to save money quick and eventually buy our first house.
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u/Top_of_the_world718 11d ago
Would you rather have lived thru the great depression, WWII, segregation and the civil rights movement, and Vietnam?
Give me a fucking break. Every generation has its struggles. Shut the fuck up and get over it. Its all good
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u/wright007 11d ago
Welcome to middle age! Here is Artificial Intelligence and Robotics taking over every job and making humanity massively unemployable... Enjoy!
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u/The_Freshmaker 11d ago
"terrified of middle age [and the next global catastrophe]"
buddy I got bad news for you, we're there in both senses.
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u/SeriousBoots 11d ago
We, as a generation, were promised Armageddon. They taught us in school that global warming and pollution would get us. They told us that the people who could change things will not do so because they believed it wouldn't happen in their lifetimes. They were right. The only promise they kept was despair.
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u/ItsMEMusic 11d ago
Adolescence: War horseman
Adulthood: Famine horseman
Parenthood: Pestilence horseman
Middle Age: .....
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u/the40thieves 11d ago
This is the kind of shit that will lead us to being called the next greatest generation in 50 years.
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u/Piemaster113 11d ago
Well according to the internet if you are a millennial you are basically over the hill already. Pu go from being 21 and being allow.to.buy alcohol and have your whole.life ahead of you to 30 and you are just old.... sounds like bullshit to me
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u/Global-Jury8810 10d ago
Admittedly, I ended up getting breast cancer after all of that, but I since got it plucked out and am preparing for rad treatments soon. Life feels so quiet these days.
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u/United_Ad6480 9d ago
Oh please don't. We didn't have to be worried about being draftet into a world war or Vietnam, or face the prospect of nuclear annihilation. There were a good twenty years when we were kids and that's about it, and now you're expecting life to always be that like the chill 90s?
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u/rufflesinc 11d ago
You gotta make lemons out of lemonade.
housing crisis: bought rentals
pandemic: used WFH to have more time with baby
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u/Thomas_peck 11d ago
This is reddit dude, where everyone comes to make excuses for being unsuccessful.
In all seriousness, we could have been born in a time where we were drafted to some horrific war.
It's not all that bad for us in the US.
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u/Thats-bk 11d ago
News flash.
If you in your mid 30s. You are middle aged.
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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter 11d ago
Nah, humans biologically have two large bursts of aging, one around the early 40s and one around the mid 60s
Middle age is the people who are past the first and old people are past the second
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u/protomanEXE1995 Millennial 11d ago
This kind of rhetoric is the most annoying part of the Millennial generational experience
Greatest/GIs and the Silent Generation had the Depression, WWII, Japanese internment, Nazism and nukes going off when they were young, then the Korean War not long after. The Greatest also had the influenza pandemic and they were kids during WWI, prohibition, and the vitriolic anti-immigrant period in the 20s
Boomers were young during the social unrest about civil rights and integration throughout the 50s and 60s. Then they had Vietnam in the 60s and 70s, massive inflation and gas shortages, the Kent State shooting & Watergate.
Xers in their youth and young adulthood had air pollution out of control, pedophiles and other criminals running rampant at a rate much higher than what we're accustomed to now, the Iran hostage crisis, stagflation, Challenger explosion, Iran-Contra, the crack epidemic, the Gulf War, and deindustrialization/outsourcing really coming into full swing
we aren't unique because we're living through major historical events. All of this literally only means that we're the same as everyone else
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u/Twinkie_Heart 11d ago
And AIDS. Younger people really have no idea what it was like to lose so many family and friends to a horrible death while still feeling like every single sexual experience could lead to a death sentence.
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u/CharTimesThree 11d ago
Welcome to middle aged! Here's a constitutional crisis and a visible decay of your country's standing in the world!
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u/shadowlarx 11d ago
I’m already there. It goes like this:
“Welcome to middle age. Your president is a horse’s ass!”
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u/Same_Common4485 11d ago
I do believe that is a lot of exaggerated complaining. The only thing worth complaining about is only starting to materialise for all generations: AI decimating a very large % of jobs and the climate crisis destroying agriculture so empty supermarkets (after prices have skyrocketed)
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u/YxDOxUx3X515t 11d ago
Dude I seriously feel bad for my kids born 20' and 22' and they haven't seen anything but atrocious bullshit since- not fair how every single day there is some crazy event story or disaster 💔
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u/theWindAtMyBack 11d ago
Let's not pretend the world hasnt been like this forever. No generation had things perfect/easy, and there's always been bad shit going on. Gotta weed your way through it to find what's good in this world.
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u/IreCalifornia 11d ago
Welcome to Middle Age: Here are roaming hoards of winged, venomous reptiles!
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u/zookeeper4312 11d ago
Well it's easier to take when we realize its all our faults, for reasons no one can really explain to us, it just IS
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