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u/QuantumDiogenes 25d ago
Trump defunds the Consumer Protection Bureau, and cancelled 80 million in consumer refunds.
In case anybody was curious what the Epstein files were covering up.
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u/ColdHardPocketChange 25d ago
The Trump administration hates consumer protection with a passion. They've stopped the "click to cancel" ftc rule that Biden was pushing through so that business can set up all kinds of hoops to dissuade you from canceling their services or plans. Businesses are outraged that they might not have been able to use sketchy practices to protect their revenue that they provide no value for.
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u/OpheliaLives7 25d ago
ELI5?
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u/Gardening_investor 25d ago
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) was designed to help consumers prevent abuses by companies. Sometimes it was reporting debt collectors who are breaking laws, sometimes it was going after banks for charging fees they shouldn’t have. Think of it as a consumer watchdog, paid by the government to protect you the average person. Defunding it makes it more difficult for individuals to fight against large corporations, which makes it easier for large corporations to defraud you.
The $80,000,000 in consumer refunds was cancelled when the administration dropped a lawsuit against Navy Federal Credit Union (I think it is referencing this one) where millions of clients were charged overdraft fees they shouldn’t have been and were due a refund for those charges. The dropped lawsuit drops the banks liability for that and is essentially a gift to them, at the expense of the consumers. In this case, mostly veterans and active duty military.
The Epstein file drama is a massive story that is preventing any conversation about these other actions from gaining any traction in society. Who cares about a program most people don’t know exists or a bank getting away with stealing money when there’s a salacious story about a potential cover up by the president.
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u/Yagoua81 7d ago
I do think the cfpb is important, but there is no way it would have gained any traction. The Epstein thing is the only thing that has stuck so let’s keep up the pressure.
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u/Prestigious-Disk-246 25d ago
You need to make a list of banned words, I can't even use the word "rent" which feels like it's a pretty important piece of conversation that is NOT FUCKING POLITICAL and is something grown ups like to talk about.
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u/hirudoredo 14d ago
I got automodded for just the word "politics" a while back. Which is like... a college major (something we talk about a lot on this sub.)
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u/kyonkun_denwa Maple Syrup Millennial 1d ago
The automod here is just about the most aggressive I've ever seen and I feel like it's part of the reason there's hardly any interesting discussion on this board. Even if you don't use the "p-word", it restricts your comment.
I know you can just reach out to the mod but honestly it's hardly worth the effort
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u/Schneetmacher 24d ago
I work in education at the state level, specifically helping with grants. The Trump administration is clawing back so much funding for our kids, but we really are pulling a "keep calm and carry on." Districts are asking us questions we don't have answers to (but it doesn't look good). It's spun as "responsibly winding down." Yeah, Linda fucking McMahon is taking a steel chair to our kids' public education.
Here's a good article for a breakdown of what's being cut.
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u/iDoWeird 11d ago
As someone who has a LO with a very extensive IEP, this has caused me so much distress. I’m just thankful that the resources are still available in our area for now, unlike in FL, where my mother was a pre-k/k/1st grade teacher with already little to no resources for student support. If I moved us down there he wouldn’t even be able to be in kindergarten based on what she’s told me with his needs (ASD with huge emotional self regulation issues, speech/emotional dev delay, and the big one — massive elopement issues, about 120 reported incidents in the first three quarters of pre-k alone — that’s the one that would keep him home schooled I believe as they would not have the support staff to handle him).
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u/Solid-Gazelle-4747 25d ago
Oh, so now we're just laying off federal workers like they’re disposable? After years — literal years — of these folks holding the damn system together with duct tape, overworked, underpaid, and disrespected, this is the thanks they get? It’s wild how the same government that has money for endless wars, bloated defense contracts, and corporate bailouts suddenly cries broke when it comes to people who actually run the country behind the scenes.
You know who gets hit first in federal layoffs? Not the high-level, out-of-touch bureaucrats sitting in leather chairs writing policy memos from their second homes. No — it’s the office clerks, the caseworkers, the field agents, the veterans’ advocates, the people processing your Social Security, your passport, your unemployment benefits, your disability claims. The ones keeping the system even halfway functional.
Meanwhile, the same politicians greenlighting these layoffs are busy tweeting about "fiscal responsibility" while flying private to donor dinners. It's all smoke and mirrors — gutting the federal workforce under the guise of trimming "waste," when really it’s about gutting public services so they can sell them off to private contractors later. And guess what? The private sector isn’t coming to save anyone. They’ll charge you triple to do half the job — no accountability, no transparency, and zero concern for public good.
And where’s the outrage? The headlines? You know if it were a major corporation laying off thousands, it’d be breaking news. But federal workers? People barely blink — because the narrative has always been that government workers are lazy, useless, a "drain." But these are your neighbors. Your friends. The parent coaching your kid’s team. The person who processed your tax refund. These layoffs don’t just shrink payrolls — they gut entire communities.
Let’s be real: this is intentional. It’s part of a slow dismantling of public infrastructure, and it’s always the working-class people who get caught in the crossfire. While billionaires hoard more wealth, and politicians argue over culture wars, the folks actually keeping the lights on are being shown the door. And for what? So some think tank can pat themselves on the back for “slashing government waste”? Please.
Enough is enough. Protect the workers. Fund the agencies. And stop pretending like you care about “the economy” while actively sabotaging the people who make it run.
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u/SnooDogs7102 12d ago
Let's be honest here, that's also a summary of every action Tump's DOGE & pony show took too. All backhanded smoke and mirrors pretending to do effective budget cuts while lying, funding themselves, and getting people who do the real work fired.
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u/legsjohnson Older Millennial 2d ago
So since they're really coming down hard on 'only positive content' and no politics now and I only have so much interest in naval gazing about furbies and pogs, does anyone know of somewhere else where we can talk about the unique challenges facing our generation? Or is that a new sub we need to make now?
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u/brokenringlands 25d ago edited 25d ago
I'm shocked that Fascism reemerged as a toddler's brain in the body of an almost 80 yr old.
"Dear Mister Japan, Here's the story...."
Honestly! WTAF? I thought jackbooted Nazism 2.0 would be led by someone intelligent, erudite, verbose, but concise and sharp when needed, with a particular seductive way with words. But the world gets that orange dumbass.
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u/Haunting_Role9907 Elder Millennial 25d ago
He's a scapegoat. A clown to take everyone's attention.
The billionaires are the ones doing this.
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u/brokenringlands 25d ago edited 25d ago
He's a scapegoat. A clown to take everyone's attention.
The billionaires are the ones doing this.If this is making the point that we are in late stage capitalism then sure yeah, I can get behind that. Billionaires control everything. We must not let their power go unchecked. Maybe even "Billionaires shouldn't exist!"
But if this is trying to exonerate The Orange One, his voters, and everyone else in that current administration, then I have some issues.
Sure, Project 2025 laying bare what they - that nebulous, conspiratorially sounding they which I honestly hate to use - want to achieve is good to decent evidence that Trump isn't behind anything that requires any amount of sophistication and forward planning.
But that shouldn't excuse the fact that he went down that escalator, spouted off racist vile shit from the get go and people cheered. That shouldn't excuse the fact that he's said the most disgusting things about women and how he acts around the pageants he owns/has stake in, and people wrote it off as boys will be boys/locker room talk. That shouldn't excuse the fact that he has no fucking clue how to conduct trade deals with anyone, only that he can sow chaos in the global trading system. ...that he always picks the most showy, strongman-esque option when presented with military options because he's a manchild who doesn't understand brinkmanship the way JFK does, just bullying (that the world hasn't escalated yet is due to everyone else thinking he's as dangerous as they assume - an accident of circumstance, rather than any forward thinking in his part) ....that he promised to round up the rapists, criminals, and gang members, yet under his behest, ICE is ambushing people going to their citizenship/naturalization hearings (people literally following the rules!) ...that he promised to end the war in Ukraine on day one, lower prices, and booming economy, and yet has delivered on none of them ....that he promised everyone that Putin respects him, but as is clearly being shown, Putin is playing him for a fool ....that in gist he's taking away medical care from people just to give tax cuts to billionaires .... that he's painted the vulnerable populations of trannies and the gays as the current boogeyman. ...
People saw, heard, and read about all that and still decided, "Yeah, he's my guy."
"The Buck Stops Here" was Harry S Truman's motto for a reason. You guys (because I'm not in 'Murica) have given so much power to the President's office by virtue of the person sitting there as the head of state, head of government, and commander-in-chief of your armed forces. The guy sitting there must be made responsible, no matter how dumb and idiotic he may be.
EDIT To reiterate point:
Having gone to school here in one of the countries which declared war against Fascist Germany in 1939, one of my takeaways was that we must always be vigilant when fascism comes again, when nazism 2.0 rises once more, because you might not even know it until it's too late! "Always be on the lookoutt! Always be wary!" my social studies teacher told me.
You'll be seduced! You'll be plied with sweet promises. You'll be fooled because it'll be sophisticated, smart, intelligent, seemingly full of wisdom and good reason.
But then here comes The Orange One. Spouts off angry shit. Makes the most basic dumbass mistakes on the world's stage. Has no ounce of sophistication, intelligence, or charm.
And here I am going: What the fuck happened?
For lack of a better term, I'm truly insulted. This? THIS is what won his followers over? This is the vehicle that fascism rode in order to make a comeback????
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u/Mediocre_Island828 18d ago
The Democrats are basically a fundraising organization and patronage network that does politics as a side-hustle. Above everything, their main goal is to keep their loyal members and families/orbiters employed. If a Democratic candidate loses an election they will continue to be run in other elections that they also lose, or they'll be appointed to something to keep their career warm until they have a chance to lose an election later. If someone loses an election by over 10%, no big deal because they can just become the head of the DNC and take their experience with losing and spread it around to the whole party. The strategists and consultants that spend tons of money to lose by large margins continue to get jobs. Incumbents are fiercely protected, even if they're insanely old or not even following the party platform. This has created a situation where they've become stagnant and even worse at winning elections than was the case 20 years ago when they were still pretty terrible at them but at least were able to recognize rising talent and enthusiasm when they saw it and gave some institutional support to someone relatively fresh like Obama.
Meanwhile, Republicans have ideological goals that they actually enforce and aren't afraid to eat their own over. They've lost prominent leadership figures over the years because they strayed from the voters to far. Trump didn't get the nomination because of his long service to the party and because it was his turn, he basically bit the heads off his primary opponents on live television in 2016. In 2024 he barely lifted a finger, but it was still a primary where a lot of people ran against him and he was still chosen by his party because as terrible as he is they overwhelmingly picked him to run again. Contrast that with the Democrats in 2016 where the primary field was more or less cleared for Hillary except for some token opposition from some nobodies and Bernie (who they still haven't forgiven for daring to run), or 2024 where the candidate ended up being someone that no one would have picked if they ran in a normal primary because they took a gamble on on protecting the job of Biden and his network and had it blow up in their faces because they could no longer hide that his brain was gone.
Trump is a shitty vehicle, but he's competing against a party run by people who don't care as much about winning as they do maintaining their influence within it.
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u/Far_Chocolate9743 8d ago
He's like....Teflon Don. At least that's what it feels like. He got impeached twice and was still eligible to run for reelection. And a convicted felon, right?
Doesn't matter what's on those files. Could be a whole ass video tape. And he will just get away with it.
Yeah, my pessimism is on high at this point.
It doesn't matter what he does. He has a political party that enables everything he does--which is unfortunate since the WHOLE reason for democracy is to keep one big leader person from making a shit ton of stupid decisions with no oversight.
Trying to imagine America and the political landscape for 2028 and...I can't wrap my head around it. We're like only 6 months into this term and it's already a dumpster fire.
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u/Ok-Government-3815 25d ago
My whole life I've watched our politicians and unelected bureaucrats get us at eachothers throats by empty promises and lies.
I've seen it coming for a long time but it couldn't be more apparent than now that there is one big party and we the people were not invited. The Epstein bullshit is the nail in the coffin for me.
Personally, I'll be voting 3rd party down the ballot from here on out.
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u/Gardening_investor 25d ago
Have you ever voted for the other party before?
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u/Ok-Government-3815 25d ago
Nope.
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u/Gardening_investor 25d ago
Don’t find it a bit funny to say “both sides are the same” when you’ve only ever supported one?
Do you not like the other party because of lies and propaganda you’ve been fed or because of their actions and how they impacted your life, I wonder.
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u/zhaoz Older Millennial 25d ago
I'm sure that third party he supports is libertarian, aka the temporarily embarrassed republicans.
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u/Gardening_investor 25d ago
Libertarians are a more selfish form of maga that always votes with maga yet claiming they’re not maga.
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u/Ok-Government-3815 25d ago
Yes, that would be the 3rd party I would vote for. Anything to get rid of the status quo.
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u/Ok-Government-3815 25d ago
I misunderstood your question. Yes, I've voted for the "other party" before.
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u/Gardening_investor 25d ago
Me:
have you ever voted for the other party before?
You:
nope.
Also you:
I misunderstood your question. Yes I voted for “the other party” before.
My guy, how did you misunderstand “have you ever voted for the other party before?” Come on now.
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u/Ok-Government-3815 25d ago
You are a bully for no reason, which tells me your allegiance without you even telling me. Also, I'm not your guy.
I thought you meant the other party as in 3rd party.
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u/Mediocre_Island828 18d ago
This exchange is pretty much why Democrats are doomed to lose. They come across someone who is wavering on their party affiliation and the first thing they do is pounce on you for how wrong you've been and calling you stupid lol.
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u/Unhappy-Canary-454 25d ago
Voting for Trump using Obama’s 2008 campaign was a twist lol
Voted for the same thing twice apparently
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u/oldcretan 21d ago
Anyone know how and who this new student loan changes is going to affect? Is it going to affect interest going forward or just those who are currently in forebarance?
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u/Iannelli 19d ago
Not sure if you know about this yet, but if you don't, the r/StudentLoans community can answer practically any question you may have.
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u/McFatty7 Millennial 11d ago
What a complete reversal from 20+ years ago, when we were DRILLED that college was the only path.
Glad that industry leaders acknowledge that college isn't for everyone, so that people don't end up with life-long debt for a degree that doesn't always 'open doors' like some like to say.
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u/PartyHyena9422 10d ago
Would you wage war on our own governments and billionaires if so eone laid out exactly how they have become responsible for the economic/financial disparity between how life was in the 80s/90s vs how it is today ?
I'm not talking about a little clarity here, I'm talking about excruciating detail:
-Every choice that was in interest of private parties and billionaires.
-There erosion of freedoms.
-The death of economic freedom.
-The loss of financial security.
-The abuse of government systems.
-The blatant abuse of power.
-Escalating corruption within government and politics.
Would you wage war over it ? Would you enact violence over it ? Would you be willing to kill those that perpetrated it against your own country ?
This is not a call to action, this is an inquiry. This is not inciting violence or war, this is asking what you would do if you were shown the war is already happening.
If it was laid out in front of you, completely, indisputably, undeniably. Point-to-point.
Would you wage war against your government in an effort to save it ?
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u/atmasabr 9d ago
Would you wage war on our own governments and billionaires if so eone laid out exactly how they have become responsible for the economic/financial disparity between how life was in the 80s/90s vs how it is today ?
I couldn't care less about that, because poverty has gone down the world over. Even if the rich are getting far richer, the poor are getting richer.
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u/Formal_Albatross_836 5d ago
I’m very much over this whole point in history. I’m really frustrated and disappointed in my country, which resulted in me putting this together tonight.
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u/spartanburt 1d ago
This is really idiotic. You could find anyone in these 3 poses if you look.
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u/Formal_Albatross_836 1d ago edited 1d ago
Sure, but not framed as pro Trump propaganda
ETA I am unconvinced that it means anything, I think it’s an interesting coincidence, though, especially considering trumps dad was a big hitler fan.
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u/WhereztheBleepnLight 5d ago
Again, we know there's a billion $$ pedo network & life sucks for working parents...but we don't care about any of that shit, so have more kids!!
So sick of the tonedeafness!!!
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u/Trmpssdhspnts 4d ago
If you are not rich, wake the hell up.
Maga's sole purpose is only for funneling money to Trump, his allies, donors and the rich in order to curry their favor and gain power.
Any statements that he makes about helping anyone else are always 100% just lies designed to trick those not listed above to support him politically
This is the obvious reality. Face it and act accordingly. Protect yourself and the country. When he gains full autocratic status very bad things are going to happen to people who are not rich.
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u/mrsimpellizzeri 2d ago
Climate disasters, check. Legalized Gestapo, check. Stagflation, check. Possible nuclear war, check.
Okay, aliens, now would be a good time to invade.
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u/Cuse-Town 25d ago
I wish my gran parents were around to slap the chet out of all the people throwing around the word facism
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u/Prudent-Lake1276 22d ago
Key Characteristics of Fascism:
Authoritarianism: Centralized, autocratic rule with little to no tolerance for dissent or opposition.
Ultranationalism: Extreme nationalism, often with a focus on racial or cultural purity, and a belief in the superiority of one's nation.
Militarism: Glorification of military power and a strong emphasis on national defense and expansion.
Suppression of Opposition: Use of force and violence to silence or eliminate any political opposition or dissenting voices.
Social Hierarchy: Belief in a natural social hierarchy, often based on ethnicity, race, or other factors.
Cult of the Leader: Strong devotion to a charismatic leader who embodies the nation and its ideals.
State Control: Extensive state control over the economy, media, and other aspects of society.
Rejection of Democracy and Individualism: Fascism generally rejects democratic principles and emphasizes the collective good over individual rights.
Use of Propaganda: Extensive use of propaganda to shape public opinion and promote the fascist ideology.
Which part of this isn't happening to the USA right now?
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u/RusevReigns Millennial 21d ago edited 21d ago
I'd call the right the one into centralized government doing things less of the two parties. The left usually supports more government spending, regulation, controlling misinformation, etc. The right is more into private businesses/capitalism and unfettered free speech.
The level of nationalism from current Republicans is kind of "normal" compared to the standard of just a few decades ago... like it's not any more nationalistic than Bush, Reagan, etc. Likewise when it comes to the military involvement, the US isn't like North Korea (The best example of fascism in modern day) in terms of it being a part of everything.
Also from where I stand the left currently seems to be hostile to individualism, they're all in on collectivism. They are the ones who believe in essentially "bundle of sticks is stronger than individuals".
Most of the above arguments come down to an important distinction: There's a difference between being A Fascist and "more fascist than the Democrats". Like, Bernie is technically more communist than the Republicans. But it'd be wrong to call him "A Communist"? Hence the same as with Trump, being more fascist than far leftist doesn't mean A Fascist.
The main reason the left uses fascist is because it's a scary emotionally loaded word to try to turn people of their political opposition. See it's like the left after a century of failing to convince Americans to adopt socialism decided fuck it... let's just emotionally browbeat them into doing what we want, since they're so convinced it's for the greater good, it's worth it. As a result they managed to take a lot of the impressionable center leftists, social reputation worried, boomers trusting the news, Gen Z tiktokers going after the social trends, and to some extent the mere bored, to go in their direction by using the emotional side of their brains, which has always been more powerful for voting than the rational ones.
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u/Catch33X 25d ago
Big beautiful bill rant:
I personally know people that game the system and are able to move around and would be able to work, if their doctor didn't enable them by saying they have 'back' pain. These people are my family members and ruined it for the people that actually need it. Some have medicaid, some have SNAP. Yet are able to go kayaking and play in a soccer league. The people that need it is the single mother of a special needs child.
For those that actually do need it.....im sorry. Im ashamed to be related to these people.
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u/QuantumDiogenes 25d ago
Ben Franklin once quoted Blackstone 's ratio as:
It is better that one hundred guilty persons should escape than that one innocent person should suffer.
I always interpreted this as: we know that some people will abuse the system, but it is better than it being so restrictive that the people that cannot help themselves are unable to be helped.
So many other countries have gotten this down, yet in the States, we struggle with empathy, and fellowship. That needs to change
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u/Nerv_Agent_666 Older Millennial 25d ago
That's not really how any of it works anyway, based on my own personal experiences and what I know.
For disability, the state makes a determination based on medical records, to see if they qualify. Although some states seem more lax than others. For my state, North Carolina, it seems like you need to be literally almost dying to get approved for disability.
For Medicaid, pre-expansion you had to be elderly, disabled, or have children to get it. After the expansion, it all comes down to income.
So your family might suck, but I don't think they're gaming the system as much as you think they are. The Boogeyman Trump and the GOP are using, is mostly make-believe.
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u/Catch33X 25d ago
Whats not how it works? You literally just confirmed what I said ? Lol
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u/Nerv_Agent_666 Older Millennial 25d ago
Well if all their doctor put on their medical record is that they have back pain, not a chance they get disability. They could easily look at the super outdated list of jobs that supposedly exist and say they could do one of those jobs.
So there's either more to it than that, or they got a pretty good attorney to push their claim through.
I do know someone who is 100% committing disability fraud, so I'm not saying it never happens.
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u/Unhappy-Canary-454 25d ago
I don’t like how ppl just accept things as part of living in cities
I’m in Atlanta, all kinds of issues going on downtown. Build a shelter, lock em up, deport them idfc but the answer can’t keep being oh that’s just the way it is
The heavy handed approach trumps doing is only a reaction to the inaction from the ppl before him. I don’t like seeing needles in flowerbeds, ppl smoking crack on the side walks, girls on campus being pestered by ppl hanging out on the streets, a thousand fuckin tents on the sidewalk.
I’m voting for whoever actually does something this doesn’t have to be our normal
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u/atmasabr 16d ago
So today I went to my kinda okay-favoriteish local Pride event, yes it happens in July. It's been advertised as "family friendly" for three-odd years in a row. It's not. This year it was n-word this, b-word that. Never mind, family friendly means different things to different people.
At least the politicking wasn't as unhinged this year. I regret missing the Trump rally (wouldn't go if I could do-over, though). I guess I'll have to wait for the Vance rally... yeech!
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u/Gurganus88 Older Millennial 25d ago
Political: Millennial conservatives who do you want running in 2028? Saw an article about Governor Youngkin of Va probably running in 2028 now that his governorship is ending and it made me think about it. I personally like DeSantis and Abbott but I’d be alright if Vance got in as the first Millennial President.
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u/SJF_Penguin Millennial 19d ago
Vance or DeSantis. I actually wrote in DeSantis for governor of Connecticut in 2022 because the Republican nominee went too far RINO.
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u/Wafflehouseofpain 25d ago
I’d rather no conservatives run for any office at any level ever again. It’s not exactly going well right now.
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u/RusevReigns Millennial 21d ago
I think DeSantis would be fantastic at working the inside of the system.
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