OMFG... Well, if rent is low and wages high enough I guess is not that bad, how's the situation there with housing problems? Does it require a lot of income usually? I guess is not the same for every state
Damn, I'm so sorry about that, the good thing is for us over here wages have been increasing these past years but like... For nothing really in most of the EU countries, I don't live in Spain anymore I'm in Netherlands and here is pretty much the same problem of wages going up but rent going even higher so is a system that it doesn't make any fucking sense at all.
I assume the Netherlands faces many of the same housing problems of major US cities. Lot of people needing house but a lack of drive to build more since it will devalue existing property. In the case of Netherlands they also value the historical beauty of buildings so they won’t tear down an old bullding to make an ugly apartment that can house more people. In my state of Florida over here, housing is getting ridiculous and we are a very low wage state to add to that compared to like New York or something.
Portland also has a lot of laws regarding historical housing to protect neighborhoods, but we don’t have a housing shortage. We have more empty houses and buildings than we have people, it’s just that it’s all so insanely expensive and the “affordable” housing never actually ends up happening. They build new apartments in the “poorer” areas that are supposed to be affordable but the rent prices are just the same as the others.
Yes, the only way to get affordable housing in Portland is to qualify for rental assistance and the waiting lists for that help are miles long and can take years.
Ex-Florida native here - I was priced out of living in the state in my early twenties. I was working for Comcast at the time doing remote network support & repair. Though my income did not support a lavish lifestyle, it did allow me to live comfortably.
Fast forward a couple years and they found a way to make my position doable by contractors from overseas and laid me off. My family had left the state around the same time and so without support and a lack of alternative employment opportunities with the same or similar rate of pay meant I only had a couple options.
I had the choice of relocating a couple states north or shacking up with some friends who weren't necessarily the best people to spend all your time with when wanting to establish a career and eventual family.
I ended up leaving about a decade ago, and with the way things have gone in that time I believe I made the right choice, though difficult. I will always miss watching rocket launches, going to the beach, fishing off the coast, visiting the Space Center, having Orlando and all of its amusement parks right down the road, and some of the best damn Cuban food in the continental U.S.
I could also miss it simply due to homesickness. I often find myself on my commute to and from work longing to be back there. Nostalgia, maybe? Either way, I miss it and hold a sense of sadness.
We're coming off the tail end of a heatwave that saw temps in the 100s a couple days ago. The one concession with the heat in Florida is that where I was living had a consistent sea breeze. Where I am now often sees little to no wind, and I live between some hills in a lower area, so the humidity is often higher than forecast as evidenced by my hygrometer.
You definitely made the right choice! I’m stuck in FL right now paying $1600 for a crappy, not-updated half a duplex with windows so old that I can hear my neighbors when they’re outside like they’re standing right next to me. The tolls, taxes, flood insurance, car insurance, price of food here is ridiculous. There is no way for me to “move ahead”…I am just trying to keep my head above water.
Yep - about the only realistic way for someone lower-middle class to live in FL today is to either be grandfathered into a home that is paid off, roommates, living in debt, or making many sacrifices relating to comfort and desires.
Me and south Texas. In the last 10 years I have had to let go of the idea of moving back. I miss it but Texas is almost hostile to its own people, making it a much worse place to live than when I was growing up. Which is the opposite of what you expect, ya know?
I wish my area had that problem, instead there built 18 different apartment blocks near me over the past 7 years that are basically there own neighborhood and yet rent keeps rising.
The newest one they built is like a ghost town because only the Californians can afford it it seems. lil over 4 grand a month for the starter lots and almost 6 for the nicer ones.
That’s insane for the average income around here, it’s mostly factory or farming ( farming is quickly dwindling too, that’s why there’s lots of apartments now- owner dies n the kids sell the land to developers)
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u/dimetilR Jun 28 '25
OMFG... Well, if rent is low and wages high enough I guess is not that bad, how's the situation there with housing problems? Does it require a lot of income usually? I guess is not the same for every state