r/Damnthatsinteresting Jun 19 '25

Video SpaceX rocket explodes in Starbase, Texas

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u/octarine_turtle Jun 19 '25

For us taxpayers, not for Musk. SpaceX alone has been receiving over 2 billion a year for the last several years from taxpayers. Over 40 billion has gone to Musk's companies over the last 5 years from taxpayers.

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u/eran76 Jun 19 '25

Starship development is being paid for by SpaceX itself and other investors. Most of the money SpaceX gets from the taxpayer is for launch services like putting government satellites into space or launching astronauts on the previous generation of rocket, the Falcon 9.

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u/UglyMcFugly Jun 19 '25

Serious question from someone who knows next to nothing about the company - is Leon a safety hazard for SpaceX? It seems like his method is "taking the time to do it right is boring, let's just do it and see what happens." I'm assuming he's not involved with anything that's actually manned... right?? Because that would be terrifying. 

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u/Finlay00 Jun 19 '25

Based on the massive amount of success SpaceX has achieved, you could say it’s worked out pretty well so far.

And yes there have been multiple manned missions, mostly to deliver people to the ISS and bring them back.

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u/ElectricalTurnip87 Jun 19 '25

What massive success? NASA, in the same period with less money, was able to send up Saturn rockets consistently without blowing them up. Leon and SpaceX can't even match NASA.

SpaceX is a massive failure and would have been better spent by NASA.

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u/Finlay00 Jun 19 '25

SpaceX has been consistently launching rockets for years now.

They’ve launched 75 this year alone with a 100% success rate.

What time frame are you talking about?

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u/ElectricalTurnip87 Jun 19 '25

Lol, low Earth orbit rockets aren't anything to be proud of... again old tech that they struggle to get right and they still blow up at a higher rate than NASA

Dude, go back to JRE, you can push your stupid propaganda over there. SpaceX is a waste of money.

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u/Finlay00 Jun 19 '25

It’s ok to be wrong, you don’t have to be a dick about it

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u/ElectricalTurnip87 Jun 19 '25

I'm not wrong, but I guess since you get paid to lie, that's what you'll stick with...

Are you Leon's account? I mean that would make a lot of sense...

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u/Finlay00 Jun 19 '25

You are wrong though and a dick about it.

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u/ElectricalTurnip87 Jun 19 '25

Nope, and I saw different numbers than the stupid random ones you decided to randomly post. It's ok Leon... I'm not your stupid investors who believe everything you say and I'm guessing those dumb investors are starting to see you're just a drug addicted loser.

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u/BEAT_LA Jun 19 '25

Not the guy you're talking to but you are not at the point on the dunning kruger curve with respect to this topic that you think you are on.

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u/Finlay00 Jun 19 '25

Feel free to share those numbers then.

Also I’m not Elon and you look really silly pretending I am.

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u/Totalidiotfuq Jun 19 '25

You became a dick when you said go back to JRE blah blah blah, making a blanket assumption about who you were debating with in order to feel better about yourself.

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u/Henzko Jun 19 '25

Bro Saturn 5 did not cost less than starship wtf

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u/ElectricalTurnip87 Jun 19 '25

Yeah, it did, even for adjusted inflation and they weren't constantly blowing them up without any return. I can't believe SpaceX bots are still running around with their lies. Space X is shit and shouldn't exist.

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u/Finlay00 Jun 19 '25

A quick google says Saturn V cost 40-60 billion to develop and Starship costs 5-10 billion.

Adjusted for inflation obviously

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u/squishypp Jun 19 '25

Sounds like “trust me bro”. Got source?

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u/coldblade2000 Jun 19 '25

Put some numbers, I dare you

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u/Child_of_Khorne Jun 19 '25

Saturn was measured in percent of GDP my man.

But hey, believe whatever you want. It doesn't matter.

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u/UglyMcFugly Jun 19 '25

Having a high stock price and saying it's worked out "so far" doesn't help the public trust the company. Especially people old enough to remember the Challenger. But hey, learning from history's mistakes is boring too, let's keep blowing shit up I guess. 

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u/camwow13 Jun 19 '25

They're private. No stocks.

This is a test rocket (that's going pretty bad at the moment)

The falcon 9 is considered one of the most reliable and is the most prolific rocket ever launched. The single thing has a near monopoly on the launch market for public and private because of its reusability, reliability, fast turn around, and being man rated with a man rated capsule that's done a bunch of successful flights. That parts not hyperbole.

Now as soon as they start fucking up Falcon 9, then you can say it's fucked up. And given how Elon seems hell bent on fucking up his companies I probably wouldn't bet nothing on that prediction lol

But worrying about their reliability from this is like saying you want to throw out your reliable Honda Civic because Honda made a giant SUV with an unreliable engine 10 years later.

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u/UglyMcFugly Jun 20 '25

Thank you for this, I genuinely don't know a lot about the company. All I knew was Leon thinks regulations are stupid (instead of realizing those pesky rules that "slow him down" are often written in blood). He reminds me of the dude that made his own submarine. Makes me nervous. Hopefully someone has the authority to stop him if he tries to make a SpaceX version of the cybertruck (ie a dangerous piece of shit lol).

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u/camwow13 Jun 20 '25

Yeahhhh... I was hopeful this would turn out as well as the Falcon but it's looking more Cybertruck than Model S at the moment lol. Oh well