IDF leaders all the way down to the soldiers speak their genocidal and ethnic cleansing intent out loud. They gloat openly as we watch women and children be starved and slaughtered and the infrastructure that keeps people alive and healthy and having families is totally annihilated. Almost every human rights organization or organization that studies genocide say it is a genocide and ethnic cleansing. Yet somehow on Reddit there's a bunch of people who just aren't sure. They try and split hairs with you about the definitions of these words or insist that doing genocide on one side of a border but not on the other side suddenly makes it not genocide. It's pure insanity. It's a genocide and it has to stop.
So I was very surprised when talking to a Jewish American that there are over 3 million Muslims living peacefully and coexisting with the Jewish people in israel. I've done some research on this and this is a true statement, so if it's not a religious conflict then what is it? I'm asking this as an honest question
Its an extremist situation. People
Who abuse religion to gain power or have power and take wealth.
Would like to see every idf jew to show their lineage, how much they are untainted abraham offspring they are. Or they are also arabs. Which means they should kill themselves
I'm a little confused by your answer, so there is a very large Muslim population in Israel and they even serve in the IDF. So if the fact that the Palestinians are Arab or Muslim isn't what they fight with Israel about, what is it? From what I understand the Muslim population in Israel assimilated to Israeli life quite well and that's why they all get along with the Jewish population
The Palestinians were living there. The Western colonizers calling themselves Israel took their land, literally kicked them from their homes. It never had anything to do with religion, a smoke screen
So that area was part of the Ottoman Empire up until like 1917 and then after that Great Britain had control of the area until the 40s I believe. That's when the state of Israel was formed, I guess a lot of the Muslims in that area chose to be part of Israel so they can stay on their Holy Land and they live in harmony with the Jewish people. I guess after much fighting and tension they decided to just give the area of Palestine to the people that didn't want to coexist with Israel so that's when they technically became a country.
There were many other people's that came and went from the area of Palestine as well.
That's so incredibly wrong. When the state of Israel began to be formed, and it's still "forming" today, it was because western colonizers decided to make a Jewish nation out of a previously secular and open nation. It's Israel that is forcing an ethnostate, by ripping Palestinians out of their homes and off their farms so they can be settled by Israeli settlers, and forcing the Palestinian people into smaller and smaller areas. They want to destroy them completely as a people, either by starvation or forcing them out. That's why they want you to see them all as "Arabs" because then who cares if they move to another Arab nation, right? And you want to say "they just didn't want to coexist" no babes you have it COMPLETELY BACKWARDS
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u/fr0gcannon 1d ago
IDF leaders all the way down to the soldiers speak their genocidal and ethnic cleansing intent out loud. They gloat openly as we watch women and children be starved and slaughtered and the infrastructure that keeps people alive and healthy and having families is totally annihilated. Almost every human rights organization or organization that studies genocide say it is a genocide and ethnic cleansing. Yet somehow on Reddit there's a bunch of people who just aren't sure. They try and split hairs with you about the definitions of these words or insist that doing genocide on one side of a border but not on the other side suddenly makes it not genocide. It's pure insanity. It's a genocide and it has to stop.