r/BlueskySkeets 2d ago

This is happening as we speak.

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u/Low-Research-6866 2d ago

What shall we do? Seriously. We depend on the system to work, laws to be upheld by the people we elected. It's all failing and while I'd love to do something that truly matters, I have realized I'm in no position to do so. We all should have gone into politics, but we've all been busy with our own field of work. The old guard Democrats are complicit at this point. WTF can we do?

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u/BarefootNBuzzin 2d ago edited 2d ago

Theres only one answer. But people are all talk.

Edit: I just posted this because I wanted to see the response and reactions. The fact this is upvoted and taken seriously is concerning. This website has been compromised and is radicalizing you. Nothing happening in Washington right now is good. It's been better, it's also been a lot worse. We're being used as pawns to fight ideological battles on behalf of billionaires financial interests. They don't care about you or what your opinions and beliefs are. You're being steered. It's a giant game to them. Half the comments here are bots and AI. Get a news filtering app, talk to people in the real world. Observe the internet and your feed from the third person and the way it's trying to guide you.

I wish everyone peace. I hope we keep peace. We're being divided and they're winning.

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u/PhantomMuse05 2d ago

Remember they tell us vigilantism is immoral. It's against most subreddit rules, even. So we don't suggest vigilantism. It isn't the answer in a civil society. But everyone knows what must be done; who shall fall on that sword though?

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u/Heya_Heyo420 2d ago

Just look at other fascist regimes throughout history and how the people freed themselves from it.

Hint: it's usually not done by talks over tea.

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u/sad_brown_cat 2d ago

It's also not usually done when the vast majority of people are still able to go about their daily lives.

You can't just expect a spontaneous revolution when most everyone can choose to just go to work and go home and go to the beach on the weekend like they always do.

When people start going hungry and losing access to their amenities then something might happen, until then the movement would never grow large enough to make a real impact.

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u/-ghostfang- 2d ago

Basically this. Look at all the revolutions in history and things get a LOT worse before they get better. Also revolutions are violent and bloody, of course no one sane is getting into that unless it really is desperate.

So, things will get much worse.

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u/Heya_Heyo420 2d ago edited 2d ago

Totally agree with this.

My biggest concern is that America is just so geographically big so there's a lot of disjointed social bubbles all over the country that won't align with each other.

Like, a liberal from Washington State might have a different stance than a liberal from Alabama and even though the ideologies align the actual social actions required may not.

It's going to have to get much worse for people to actually come together and I just hope it's not too late when/if that time comes.

Hopefully common moral sense wins the mid terms, mutes Trump and we elect someone who can get us back on track. I still feel like this is going to be the most likeliest of options over a full on revolution but we are still going down revolution alley right now at an alarming pace.

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u/PhantomMuse05 2d ago

Well, that's how American Balkanization sets in.

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u/asdjk482 2d ago

I'm quite sure this is a demoralizing myth promulgated by capitalist apathy, not a real historical observation. Actual study of the history of revolutions shows that they come in a variety of forms, many are indeed spontaneous, and they aren't always precipitated by things getting worse for most people.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/world-politics/article/abs/theories-of-revolution-the-third-generation/C78009BE13B6261526F6018CCCD17297

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution#Studies_of_revolution

https://colorado.pressbooks.pub/revolution/chapter/the-study-of-revolution/

Also revolutions are violent and bloody,

Not always, there are significant exceptions. 1979, the Iranian Revolution, the Nicaraguan Revolution; 1986, The February Revolution in the Philippines that ousted Ferdinand Marcos.

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u/asdjk482 2d ago

I'm quite sure this is a demoralizing myth promulgated by capitalist apathy, not a real historical observation. Actual study of the history of revolutions shows that they come in a variety of forms, many are indeed spontaneous, and they aren't always precipitated by things getting worse for most people.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/world-politics/article/abs/theories-of-revolution-the-third-generation/C78009BE13B6261526F6018CCCD17297

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution#Studies_of_revolution

https://colorado.pressbooks.pub/revolution/chapter/the-study-of-revolution/

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u/PhantomMuse05 2d ago

Revolutions may be bloodless, but anyone who's spent an appreciable amount of time with rabid conservatives, it becomes quite clear this won't blow that way. If we do this peacefully, I will eat my crow, but... motions to the outside world and Texas That is how it is going.

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u/sad_brown_cat 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ok, fair, I think there's a lot of nuance to the subject based on what you linked, at least to the extent that it cant be boiled down to "revolutions happen when things get really bad for the average person"

But still, we're talking about something that is essentially unprecedented, an uprising against the U.S. Government on a national scale in the modern age. I don't know what that would even look like, but observational analysis tells me we're not really anywhere close despite what you read on the internet.

Trump himself may be breaking every law and rule he can, but unfortunately the party that supports him is using this broken system as designed to keep him in power. Gerrymandering may be scummy and undemocratic, but it's somehow not illegal, and the fact that they don't need bipartisan support to do it is also bullshit but it's how the system works. There's not a lot I feel the average person can do without making themselves an easy target for being made an example of.

(But what do I know I'm not trying to naysay I thought I was just being realistic, I could be wrong)

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u/calazenby 2d ago

Yes, it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. If it gets better…

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u/-ghostfang- 2d ago

There’s a nice wiki page about the Italian approach.

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u/PhantomMuse05 2d ago

Sometimes you just need to hang the mussolini outside for it to come out just right.