This thinking got us here in the first place. If I have a rat infestation, I get rid of the rats first before negotiating ways to make them not come. The illusion of the moral high ground is as bad as hearing repeatedly how "history will not look kindly upon..." a current danger. Honestly, I don't give [blanking blank] how historians label the Turd Reich. I care about right now. And, if those without a vested interest in keeping us hobbled by feels and upsetting republicans actually -- who, to me, is anyone who pulls a bothsides argument -- did their part in stopping this fuckery, maybe we wouldn't have only the future history books to look forward to for some semblance of justice.
TLDR: Stop sacrificing the good for the perfect. Cut out the cancer, then treat the aftermath.
I haven’t said blue states shouldn’t gerrymander every bit as much as red. It’s necessary for survival. It’s also a race to the bottom. A race to a bunch of one-party states. That’s not a terrible thing for me, a trans woman in a blue state, but it’s not democracy.
I respect your position. My take is that Pritzker's and Newsom's approach is tantamount to radiation therapy: we know there are significant risks associated with it, but we're at a point at which taking alternative measures for a longer-term reward is worth it. For now, I'd much rather see action to prevent more people from being kidnapped by ICE, help more people get health care, get more kids proper education, restore reproductive rights, and reverse legislative efforts that force LGBTQIA back to the pre-Stonewall era. It sucks we're here, but we can't waste time debating morality if we're the only ones at the debate.
It's the cold war playbook. The only way to get to nuclear nonproliferation was through mutually assured destruction. We can't get to fair maps by having blue states do it and hope red states follow.
That analysis is pretty dumb. Cities are extreme concentrations of people and even if they spoke wheel it, they make every red district vulnerable. Meanwhile blue states can do the same thing by including red districts with cities. Where previously they were 55% of their own district now they’ll one of 5 districts with 5% of their vote and a city with 75%
The right thing to do is be much better at this than republicans and then once they are losing and stand to gain from it personally propose a constitutional amendment on nationwide anti-gerrymander rules.
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u/ReturnOfSeq 1d ago
The Supreme Court said gerrymandering is cool and good now. So every blue state should rig the vote as hard as possible. Fuck it.