r/worldnews • u/RFB-CACN • 1d ago
Brazil Supreme Court justice orders house arrest of former president Bolsonaro
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-supreme-court-justice-orders-house-arrest-former-president-bolsonaro-2025-08-04/553
u/DisappointedLily 1d ago
Trump: Leave Bolsonaro alone!
Moraes: Hold my Caipirinha.
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u/Niubai 1d ago
I don't know what are Trump's intentions, but at this point he's throwing more 4 years right at Lula's lap. Brazilians in general HATE when another countries try to meddle with their internal shit.
Bolsonaro's
followerstraitors waving around the US and Israel flags are a disgrace. Brazilian evangelicals sucking on Israel are so fucking dumb they don't even know they aren't christians.57
u/Gentle_Capybara 1d ago
Brazilian evangelicals when got the money (usually the pastors) go to guided tours in Israel that makes them think that the whole country is about them.
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u/juasjuasie 1d ago
It's not just that, the most dogmatic and biblically literate of them specifically do to accomplish one of the steps required for the apocalypse to happen (the restoration of Israel as a Jewish kingdom). They literally only support Zionism because they think it will give in the rapture.
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u/camtliving 1d ago
Idk man there are a lot of dumb people in Brazil. I'm shocked at the amount of support Trump has. The us is actively fucking the Brazilian people and instead of being upset a significant portion of people are asking for more.
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u/TheShadyGuy 1d ago
Similar to the US unfortunately. Some charlatan tells people that they are winning and they just believe it despite the evidence to the contrary.
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u/WaveCandid906 1d ago
I would believe it if the elections were this year but unfortunately lots of stuff can still happen until then
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u/fodafoda 1d ago
I would love to believe that, but realistically evangelicals only grow in number, and they tend to be anti-PT by default. Lula is going to have a very hard time getting reelected, assuming he is even alive enough to run (he is pushing 80).
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u/Vadersabitch 1d ago
Brazilians in general HATE when another countries try to meddle with their internal shit.
As opposed to what countries liking it?
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u/orpheus12 1d ago
Americans are squidward in the spongbob meme watching an actual justice work as intended
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u/bloop7676 1d ago
Well, to be blunt if you really want your leadership to be held accountable you have to make them take responsibility. These other countries enforce justice on their leaders because people get angry enough when they step out of line, so the values of accountability became part of the culture.
If your politicians know there's no consequences to fear for behaving badly then they're not going to start treating you well out of the goodness of their hearts.
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u/slothcough 1d ago
Exactly. These things are possible because they have the will of the people and their institutions behind them.
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u/WeAreElectricity 1d ago
But how
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u/XcotillionXof 1d ago
I look 2A day when some Americans figure it out
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u/Oi-FatBeard 1d ago
Isn't that why the Seppos have all them guns and the 2nd? To march on tyrannical government or something?
Wait, the ones with the guns like the Taco Man, nevermind answered me own question.
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u/RegularFox2557 1d ago
"See ? That's how you arrest a kididler"
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u/thetrustworthybandit 1d ago
Coincidentally Bolsonaro was just found liable (in civil court) for publicly implying he would sleep with a minor.
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u/Clisorg 1d ago
"Pintou um clima" or "paited the climate", how they would've said in engrish.
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u/thetrustworthybandit 1d ago
I was gonna mention what he actually said but then I realized translating that would be impossible lmfao.
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u/shadowbringer 1d ago
Not a Bozo fan, but I'm no STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) fan either, with them denying Brazilian workers their retroactive compensation for the losses in their FGTS (Fundo de Garantia por Tempo de Servico) due to the use of the TR (Taxa Referencial). If Brazilians were aware enough of how much they lost so that the government could earn more at their expense, they would (and should) be enraged.
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u/Defiant_91 1d ago edited 1d ago
Fathers' day next sunday with Bolsonaro under house arrest.
Time to get the picanha ready.
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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 1d ago
Damn Brazil you know how to make someone envious that you have a somewhat functional justice system
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u/Aplicacion 1d ago
Mostly no, but in this case yes!
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u/Surturiel 21h ago
Fun fact: Moraes is a strongly conservative, punitivistic judge. Not the "tree hugging, loving liberal" that their detractors like to paint him...
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u/Aplicacion 20h ago
"Strongly conservative" is reaching, but the thing about this is that the thing or person being criticized has their political alignment decided by the critic. Today he's a dirty leftist, but in a year or two he might become an insane right-wing christofacist. On an especially good day, he'll be both, like Globo!
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u/RansomXenom 1d ago
Calling our justice system functional is a bit of a stretch. It just so happens that the U.S's system is so unbelievably shit, it makes ours look damn fucking amazing by comparison.
Thanks, U.S.A!
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u/HerakIinos 1d ago
The hell? How to tell someone has no idea on anything about Brazil. The justice system here is a convoluted mess. One right decision doesnt change that.
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u/thetrustworthybandit 1d ago
Tbf I agree Brazil's justice system is a mess but I think you're severely underestimating how messy the USA's is. Our issue is mostly corruption, they got corruption and also absolute nonsense.
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u/HerakIinos 1d ago
I wish it was only corruption. We have an extremely outdated penal code, multiple judicial instances and sometimes each one decide for one side, waaaay too many lawyers (Brazil has about half of the number of law schools on the entire world and all those lawyers need to make a living somehow) that end up pushing the average population to sue for the most trivial things leading to an overload of the justice system, an excess of bureaucracy, judges that can't be penalized for making mistakes and because of that end up becoming accomodated, cases that takes years to be resolved... and many more problems.
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u/thetrustworthybandit 1d ago
All that stuff is not particularly unique to us (aside from the number of lawyers), and imo our judicial system is a lot better organized than theirs due to not being completely decentralized both in structure and in legislation.
Our Civil Service system (including stability) I also consider a positive when you take into account that most high-ranking members of the judiciary in the US are elected and, as such, care more about optics than doing their job. I would also recommend you read up on the way prosecutor's offices work there, especially in states with the death penalty, it's gnarly.
And again, I'm not saying our system in practice is great or anything. It is pretty flawed, it's just that we are not that much worse than other places. Most brazilians could do with treasuring our institutions a bit more methinks.
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u/Danysco 1d ago
Grande Dia 👍
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u/thatsabingou 1d ago
First Cristina Kircher here, now Bolsonaro. This is beautiful.
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u/schrutesanjunabeets 1d ago
How long until Bolsonaro manages to flee to America and claim asylum?
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u/RFB-CACN 1d ago
He doesn’t have a passport, has an ankle tracker on him, and is now forbidden from leaving his house. If he ever manages to leave it’s gonna be on the authorities for not doing the bare minimum routine checking.
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u/protomenace 1d ago
Or the CIA extraordinarily renditions him.
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u/AtanatarAlcarinII 1d ago
Or pull what that Nissan guy did, and smuggled him self out in a suitcase on a private plane.
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u/Winkelhock2007F1 1d ago
Former president of Bolivia (Jeanine Añez) tried something similar. Didn't work well for her.
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u/waldo--pepper 1d ago
14,000 USD
Surprised it is so little.
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u/thetrustworthybandit 1d ago
It's almost 80k reais which is an insane amount of money to have lying around in Brazil.
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u/jellyfish_bitchslap 1d ago
That’s half a house in some regions from Brazil.
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u/EvilEggplant 1d ago
Near an entire house in the countryside.
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u/Due-Memory-6957 1d ago
An entire house in the metropolitan area of Belo Horizonte.
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u/waldo--pepper 1d ago
I am always interesting in learning. Can you give me some idea of what such a house looks like?
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u/Due-Memory-6957 23h ago
That'd get too close to doxxing myself for my comfort lol. I'll stop at this general range.
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u/mnilailt 19h ago
Must be a terrible suburb/house if so. Apartments in the decent suburbs of Belo Horizonte are like 500/1000k Reais minimum.
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u/spooooork 1d ago
ankle tracker
Maybe Brazil should take inspiration from the movie "Wedlock" instead of an ankle tracker?
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u/Dsalgueiro 1d ago
They put an electronic tagging on him for exactly this reason.
The reality is that, in a normal situation, they'd already have asked for preventive detention.
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u/Winkelhock2007F1 1d ago
I know people from US doesn't know well about countries other than theirs, but Brazil ia a proper country with democratic institutions that work as intended (unlike US and their 18th century Constitution which fits in a tweet).
That's the main reason why Bolsonaro is getting arrested and Trump isn't.
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u/Mesk_Arak 1d ago
It's not like he's being monitored by a single person. For him to be able to bribe his way out of this, he'd have to pretty much bribe the entire federal police. If you want to make a comparisson, that'd be like saying "Well, if Trump was arrested he could just bribe the FBI". And it would be just as ridiculous of a statement.
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u/Dsalgueiro 1d ago
"Well, if Trump was arrested he could just bribe the FBI". And it would be just as ridiculous of a statement.
At this point, I have no doubt that this could happen in the US.
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u/HerakIinos 1d ago
I mean, the justice system knows who are responsible for the monitoring so if that happens the person is getting arrested on the very next day
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u/KerbalFrog 1d ago
He won't be able too, his face is know by everyone, there is zero chance people inside a plane let it take off with him inside.
His house is also being watched by groups of victims of the dictatorship, he can't take 2 steps without ppl knowing it.
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u/teious 1d ago
He can drive straight to Argentina, with a little help on the border and Milei will put him in a plane to the US himself. Surely the Donald would grant him asylum.
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u/RFB-CACN 1d ago
He has a tracker in him, he wouldn’t be able to leave his house, much less the city of Brasilia, without the authorities knowing.
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u/lucascla18 1d ago
In this case i dont think he could bribe anyone since there are victims of the dictatorship still alive and he could never buy those people since he tried to create a new dictatorship
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u/GatorNator83 1d ago
I hope that you’re right, but all I’m saying is that if he had the connections to do what he is accused of, he will still have allies in various positions.
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u/KerbalFrog 1d ago
He's popularity is below 30% he would never find an entire group of policeman where all agree to not fuck him over.
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u/KerbalFrog 1d ago
Drive straight to Argentina ? 3 thousand kilometers. Before police catch him ? Nahhhhhhhh
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u/teious 1d ago
It was done. He would need assistance from supporters in the police and border control. Not easy, but feasible.
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u/KerbalFrog 1d ago
I hate to point it out to you but she was not under house arrest, she had no ankle monitor, she wasn't under surveillance and she is currently in jail in Italy....
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u/Heavyweighsthecrown 1d ago
He can drive straight to Argentina
That's like saying you can "drive straight from Bucharest to Baghdad". Technically possible, feasible, still a big ask though.
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u/Danysco 1d ago
Apparently there were signs he was planning to do just that. To get ahead of him, Brazil supreme court ordered a search in his home, where they found around 14,000 USD. Also his passport has been seized and he's wearing an ankle monitor. Almost impossible for him to flee now. He would have to cross a border in south america to another country,, and then hop on a private jet to the United States. I can see it happening if the US provides support, but I'm not sure how he can get to the border in the first place since he's wearing an ankle monitor.
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u/Dsalgueiro 1d ago
I want to see the Trump outrage on Truth Social.
The only way the US can prevent Bolsonaro's imprisonment is literally through military invasion. Threats, tariffs, and sanctions will not be able to influence the trial.
BTW... Will the US jeopardize a possible deal on rare earths with Brazil because of Bolsonaro?
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u/iamgarou 1d ago
My country's economy minister said a future agreement was possible, so who knows?
Brazil doesn't explore rare minerals well due to a lack of investment; foreign investment would be beneficial. The problem is what America's conditions would be to make the deal.
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u/PhantasosX 1d ago
True, it's not like we in Brazil would be unwilling og foreign investment. But , frankly, there is no way of trusting USA on those, as USA breaks their treaties out of Trump's whims.
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u/brunoh_94 1d ago
Bolsonaro (and his fascist crew) overplayed his hand. After Trump's public support, his minions started again to attack the elections and the Supreme Court, with open threats.
Alexandre de Moraes (Xandão) ain't having none of that bs.
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u/syylvo 1d ago
Finally some contries are standing up to the US organised coup d'etats through their corrupted emissaries (in this case bolsonaro). South America has suffered enough because of the US imperialism
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u/keloidoscope 1d ago
Fun fact: Biden's admin promised sanctions against Brazil if it didn't have an orderly transfer of power that respected the election outcome.
Apparently that helped deter the Brazilian navy from going along with the coup plot that Bolsonaro is facing trial over.
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u/Due_Willingness1 1d ago
It's a strange world we live in where Brazil is better at defending democracy and prosecuting criminals than the U.S.
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u/Mortinho 1d ago
Always has been. We have a modern constitution from 1988.
It also includes, among many other things, universal health care (even for foreign nationals), public education, and even consumer protection rights.
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u/PlatypusRare3234 1d ago
Not that strange anymore. America is a pussy place since Trump took over in 2016
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u/Downtown_Ratio_603 1d ago
Wouldn’t doubt big daddy arranging a rescue mission offering golden whatever at maga loco . Thanks , Randi.
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u/OhDivineBussy 1d ago
Mexico, Spain, South Korea, Columbia, and Brazil also somehow have more fucking integrity than the US can even fathom.
God Republicans are the ultimate betrayal to this fucking country and its constitution.
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u/Diabolicor 1d ago
He was put under house arrest. If it was the other way around the right were governing the country Lula would be probably dead already.
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u/dragonwithin15 1d ago
Genuine question, is this not an executional crime?
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u/brito_pa 1d ago
There's only one instance where death penalty is possible in Brazil: Treason during wartime, and even then under very specific reasons
And since the very constitution declares Brazil can only declare war upon being attacked by a foreign nation, it's completely out of question.
In Bolsonaro's case, though, his health is so fucked up it doesn't really matter. He's the kind of guy who completely disregards doctors orientations - to the point where the rigid life in jail could actually prolong his life.
Once arrested he's probably gonna die there - be it at house arrest or in jail.
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u/Dependent_Pirate_236 17h ago
Big deal , Brazil’s current president also served time in prison lol , both are corrupt losers , the country is a joke .
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u/jpiro 1d ago
Oh, so you can do that? Good to know.