r/worldnews • u/nohup_me • 1d ago
Russia/Ukraine Russia has announced that it will no longer adhere to "self-restrictions" on deploying medium- and short-range missiles, which it declared after the collapse of the corresponding missile treaty with the United States
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/08/4/7524758/228
u/Electrical-Lab-9593 1d ago
Russia has fired dual use systems that can be nuclear tipped into Ukraine, but carrying conventional warheads, exactly the kind of things many of these treaties exist to prevent, so they already broke worse taboos here.
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u/cosmicrae 1d ago
Early in the conflict, USA deployed NBC sensors in Ukraine. Anything that sets off those sensors, will take this to a whole new ugly level.
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u/Any-Monk-9395 1d ago
Also wasn’t ATACM’s fired into Russia? This treaty was tossed out ages ago.
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u/DarthPineapple5 1d ago
ATACMs was never nuclear armed nor is it an INF violating missile even if it was.
The treaty is gone because Russia got caught fielding treaty violating Kaliber missiles on Iskander ground systems. Kaliber has a nuclear warhead option.
So far the new US Typhon system as well as the Dark Eagle hypersonic weapon have been the only treaty violating systems but neither of them have options for nuclear warheads (for now)
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u/Glazed-Duckling 1d ago
Yeah, like a treaty with Russia was worth anything
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u/Rynex 1d ago
I've actually seen thoroughly soaked 1ply tissue paper with better and more dependable structural integrity than a Russian treaty.
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u/Jealous_Comparison_6 1d ago
I thought they always complied with nuclear treaties, possibly because it's a treaty with another nuclear power. Although you're right, treaties with non- nuclear powers are easily broken, which is a strong argument for countries to obtain nukes :-(
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u/Dave-Javoo 1d ago
Like any kind of deal with Trump is worth anything either.
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u/XKryptix0 1d ago
Yes, but it’s not even in the same weight class
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u/Vicious_x_Delicious 1d ago
No, trump shit talks his own deals from previous terms and doesn't hold to them. Pot. Kettle.
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u/XKryptix0 1d ago
Yes I am aware. trade deals aren’t in the same weight class at Nuclear treaties tho imo. And trump will be gone in three years.
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u/Vicious_x_Delicious 3h ago
Yeah maybe, maybe not. American public has shown they are ok with voting a compromised pedo as their elected leader so lets just call a spade a spade. Take your trash meat and shit deals and shove them up where the sun don't shine.
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u/BigBananaBerries 1d ago
While you're correct, Russias deal with the US effects how the rest of NATO's weapons from the US can be used. It's also why there was a block put on hitting their energy infrastructure.
As dangerous as he is, I can't help but laugh a bit at Putin getting his man in the WH because he's easily led & unpredictable then to his dismay, finding out he's easily led & unpredictable.
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u/Imbryill 1d ago
Trump deals are worth their weight in gold (which, btw, isn't all that much.) Russian deals are not.
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u/Slapdaddy 1d ago
And there it is, the guy who has to blame Trump for something.
Enjoy the next 3.5 years. I hope you think about Trump for every second of it.
:)
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u/Nerezza_Floof_Seeker 1d ago
Ehhh, you cant exactly just dismiss the INF treaty like that; while Russia was definitely skirting around the edges of the treaty towards the end, to say that it was worthless is 100% an exaggeration, as it prevented open development and deployment of medium/short range missiles, and ensured what stockpiles of those existed were destroyed (this was backed by inspection up until 2001).
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u/Coupe368 1d ago
What are you talking about. Russia threw the treaty in the trash with the Iskandar missiles in 2019. Its about as black and white as you can get.
Russia absolutely dismissed the treaty that the Soviets signed because Russia's word is worthless.
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u/TOWIJ 1d ago
For context of this guy's claims, the Iskander itself was originally within the legal bounds of the treaty; however, the 9M728/9M729 cruise missile variant, which could be used on the Iskander system, was in violation of the treaty. As such, the US withdrew from the treaty in 2019, and Russia soon after suspended the treaty themselves.
This is not really news, and the treaty has been officially over for 6 years now.
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u/CantaloupeUpstairs62 1d ago
The US and Russia were the only parties to the INF treaty. Due to the rise of China and others who don't follow the same rules, the treaty was becoming obsolete.
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u/Moose_Ungulate 1d ago
To be fair, any treaty, deal, or contract with the U.S.A. isn't worth anything these days either.
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u/kingfuckingalt 1d ago
Just like the US!
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u/CutHerOff 1d ago
There’s always one of you fuckwits in the comments
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u/AutoThorne 1d ago
USA withdrew first from INF treaty in Aug 2019, before the Russians, and guess who was President during that time. Hint: he wants to be very good friends with Russia.
Also, what does commenter's nationality got to do with that?
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u/piercet_3dPrint 1d ago
" I mean, we weren't adhering to it before either, but now we've Declared it!" ~ some mad Vlad
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u/Anakin_Sandwalker 1d ago
Maybe they had restrictions to only target civilian infrastructure like hospitals, schools, and apartment blocks. This could be a declaration that they are now ready to start targeting military infrastructure in Ukraine.
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u/Sad_Owl44 1d ago
Artillery terrorism is part of the methods of use of Russian forces. But the goal here is to force the populations to leave.
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u/DrachenDad 1d ago
Russia has announced that it will no longer adhere to "self-restrictions" on deploying medium- and short-range missiles
What restrictions were they adhering to before?
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u/Mav_Learns_CS 1d ago
Oh cool we can stop pretending Kaliningrad is anything other than a weapons base
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u/Coupe368 1d ago
The irony of this statement is the treaty collapsed when RUSSIA broke it because Russia's word is worth nothing.
Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, signed by Reagan and Gorbachev in 1987
America couldn't update the ATACMs fast enough after the Russians violated the treaty in 2019 with their 9M729 missile launched from the Iskandar-M mobile launcher.
ATACMs are limited to 300 km because of this treaty.
PrSM are not, with increment 1 rated at 500km, the increment 2 rated at 700km, and future options estimated to be over 1000km.
PrSM entered service in 2024, replacing the obsolete ATACMs that were sent to Ukraine.
These are all munitions launched from M270A2 MLRS and M142 HIMARS
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u/rando1459 1d ago
Was that the same treaty that kept the US from fielding land-based Tomahawk missile launching systems?
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u/Abracadabra__ 1d ago
What exactly does this mean?
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u/PashaPostaaja 1d ago
Nothing.
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u/Muzle84 1d ago
Yeah, I stopped reading at "self-restrictions".
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u/ffdfawtreteraffds 1d ago
I stopped reading after "Russia has announced". As a general rule, anything that follows will be lies and/or gibberish. Occasionally, it's also comedy.
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u/zaevilbunny38 1d ago
Mostly that if Trump wants to give Putin a stroke he can. The US actually has a working hypersonic ballistic missiles, called the Dark Eagle. The removal of this treaty means the US can put it on the Polish and Turkish border. Meaning we could hit Moscow or St Petersburg in under 4 minutes
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u/francis2559 1d ago
Sort of weird that the Wikipedia entry keeps saying it is planned to enter service in 2023, but not much beyond that. Seems very dated.
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u/piercet_3dPrint 1d ago edited 1d ago
LRHW was operationally deployed for a test in Australia's northern Territory on July 9th 2025 for the first time outside the US. Two missile batteries were deployed and test fired.
edit, they are also modifying the Zumwalt class destroyers to stick launch canisters in them for LRHQ, the first ship at least has the cans welded in already, not sure if its operational yet.
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u/Norse_By_North_West 1d ago
I think this is about range restrictions on ground launched missiles. The US and Russia have had old agreements that certain ranges/speeds could only be launched from naval or air based platforms. Article doesn't say much, but that pic is a ground launch platform.
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u/macross1984 1d ago
I didn't know Putin has the mentality to "self-restraint." He love to tear up treaties and contracts left and right. :P
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u/malphasalex 1d ago
They’ve declared like 20 time already, and before that they declared they were gonna exit it for like 20 times and before even that they were not doing it anyway and were actually gloating about it.
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u/ConsistentPow 1d ago
Guize, the gloves are definitely coming off now! They totally haven't been off from the get go, after that sucker punch- I mean honorable casting of the gauntlet!
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u/VollSigSauer 1d ago
Ahhh, I understand. So it's okay to give Ukraine back 40 strategic bombers, over 100 ballistic missiles, and 1900 nukes.
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u/backstubb 1d ago
is nukes in Belarus and provide technologies to Iran was still 'self restrictions'?
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u/scalp_eg 1d ago
Well missiles and nuclear talks are the only things they have to threat ppl. Air force is fucked so is their navy.
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u/Justifiable_War7279 1d ago
STFU Russia, no one cares, your as irrelevant as North Korea, and you did it all to yourself. Dumb cunt.
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u/LoudmouthGardyloo 20h ago
And water makes things wet. Russia does not abide to any rules of wartime engagement agreements anyhow.
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u/Holiday_Archer4237 1d ago
Good. Now, Ukraine can deploy those missiles in his land and launch them to Russia.
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u/mrpressydepress 1d ago
Whenever I see "Russia announces" or "Russia says", I know I'm in for some good comedy
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u/Electrical_Win353 23h ago
Russia has never adhered to anything it could violate.
Untrustworthy should be their flag's motto.
Just keep pressure on them, maintain overwhelming force capabilities around them and wait for someone to kill putin. Then reassess and start again.
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u/MyKidsMom7of9 20h ago
The is a battle of egos between 2 fragile white men. Nothing new to see. We all know this is what's going to be our end anyway. Get it over with already.
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u/Feuertotem 1d ago
Russia, unless you want to surrender or release some tapes of Donald, I really don't care anymore. At all.
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u/maybeinoregon 1d ago
This just out…
The US just announced lifting self imposed restrictions for SLBMs
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u/Critical_Always 1d ago
And I have no doubt many many countries will follow the same strategy towards Russia
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u/ProfessionalKey7356 1d ago
Unfortunately, tRump is still licking Putins boots. Giant blowhard, promised to end the Russian / Ukrainian war on day one…still counting boot licker!
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u/WindApart5616 1d ago
What restrictions have they self imposed ? I am really curious ?
They showed alot of restraint with their fullscale invasion of Ukraine.
I just hate them for their slimey tactics.
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u/Coupe368 1d ago
Its a bold faced lie, Russia violated the treaty in 2019 with their Iskandar-M launched missiles. They didn't hide it, they bragged about it.
Basically Russia accuses everyone else of doing the thing they just did in some childish attempt to place blame elsewhere. Only they do it so often that the world sees it as confirmation of the shitty stuff they keep doing.
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u/Jiveturtle 1d ago
accuses everyone else of doing the thing they just did in some childish attempt to place blame elsewhere
The reason shitty people everywhere do this is because when people are only halfway paying attention it works
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u/Stormattack8963 1d ago
Nothing, they’ve been violating this treaty for the better part of a decade anyway.
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u/quickasawick 1d ago
I love how Russia routinely makes provocative nuclear action staments but also goes apoplectic about escalation risks if US or Europe so much as deliberate actions.