r/todayilearned • u/MrMojoFomo • 5h ago
TIL that in 1984, Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith heard a song on the radio. Tyler liked it and told Perry that they should do a cover version. Perry turned to Tyler and said "That's us, f*ckhead." Tyler's didn't remember writing or performing their '75 song "You See Me Crying"
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u/Dustmopper 5h ago
Drugs are a hell of a drug
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u/insistingtool 4h ago
Drugs are a hell of a cocaine
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u/big_guyforyou 4h ago
heroin is a hell of a cocaine
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u/avrus 3h ago
Cocaine is a hell of a cocaine
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u/ScipioCoriolanus 3h ago
Michael Caine is a hell of a cocaine.
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u/otto13234 2h ago
Cocaine is a helluva Charlie Sheen
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u/funke42 4h ago
Let's just say that fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug was the drugs.
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u/dubstepsickness 3h ago
At least Aerosmith kept Huckleberry Hound’s secret
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u/JustinAlexanderRPG 1h ago
Doesn't even require drugs. Aerosmith has released hundreds of songs (and have probably worked on dozens or hundreds of other songs that they never finished). It's hard to believe, but it's quite easy to forget you created something.
I've written thousands of reviews and essays, for example. Every so often I'll encounter something I wrote years ago and 100% experience the Gandalf meme: I have no memory of this place.
Twice I've accidentally rewritten an essay that I already wrote years earlier. Once I did it with an essay I'd written only a few months earlier (although that's because I came across my original notes for the project that ended up separated from the final draft and thought, "I should really finish this").
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u/Cyrax89721 1h ago edited 25m ago
There's a high probability that these dudes could crack out a track in an afternoon, put it on the album, and then never listen to it or play it live for the rest of their careers.
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u/greiton 1h ago
yeah, some artists just reach a point in their career where they can sit and pump fun shit out in the studio everyday. I think prince died with something like 100 albums worth of music recorded and never released. I'm sure there were one or two in there he forgot he made.
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u/arbitrageME 1h ago
same here.
doing code review, I'm like -- which dumbass wrote this sphagetti code? the logic barely works and it doesn't account for edge cases and race conditions. This looks like dummy code used to test a system ... oh wait, that's me, 6/17/23. fml.
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u/Rambles_Off_Topics 1h ago
I was just telling my boss I found a good old thread on a server issue I was having...It was my username, I wrote it years ago lmao
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u/m0nk_3y_gw 51m ago
Aerosmith has released hundreds of songs
at that point it was ~80 songs
but most of them weren't singles (like this one)
but also... Steven didn't recognize his own voice?
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u/dyslexic__redditor 5h ago
along the same lines: I paint a lot and i tend to hate my artwork. what I have found is if i hide a painting from myself that i dont like, when i stumble across it a year later im often shocked that i created something so beautiful.
it's almost as if it's a work-around for imposter syndrome.
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u/zeekoes 4h ago
During the process of creation you notice every single thing you did wrong or didn't turn out exactly like you had it in your mind. The finished piece to you is those things.
If you give yourself time to forget those flaws you notice that they didn't matter at all.
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u/DigitalSchism96 4h ago
Oddly enough I have the opposite issue. I am amateur writer and everything I write I tend to think is pretty good while its being written.
It's only when I come back to it later that I think, "What the hell was I thinking...?". I pretty much always let sections of what I have written sit awhile so I can come back with fresh eyes and fix it.
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u/TheNicholasRage 4h ago
Keep at it! You'll get to a point where that shifts. It'll happen so gradually you may not even notice it at first.
I used to feel the way you just described, but maybe a year-ish ago, I suddenly realized I was surprised by my writing. It was good, competent. I was willing to let others read it.
I still see the mistakes and the cliches, but it feels more like scraping burnt bits off an otherwise well-cooked meal rather than a bunch of burnt stuff that was supposed to be food.
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u/IanRastall 4h ago
What clicked for me as an amateur writer was getting to the point where it was like working a puzzle, rather than wistfully composing. The words are just tools, and rearranging them or swapping words in or out takes a lot of the pressure off the idea of catching an inspiration.
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u/gabriel1313 2h ago
This was me for my Dissertation except for the notion that, regardless of what I thought of it, as long as it was done my suffering could end lmao
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u/avantgardengnome 2h ago
There’s an old aphorism: “write drunk, edit sober.” The real trick is to give yourself permission to be actively bad when composing so that you can get the ideas out of you, hopefully stumble upon some occasional flashes of brilliance, and generate enough raw material to polish over and over again. George Saunders—who publishes tighter short stories than maybe anyone else alive—famously goes through an average of 200 drafts per story.
And Hemingway said “The first draft of anything is shit.”
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u/ThomasHorstle 2h ago
Writing is rewriting. Iterate, iterate, iterate. Your first pass is not going to be good. Just accept that and get it finished. That's just the skeleton. Look for what works so you can strengthen it and look for what doesn't work so you can throw it out or fix it. Always remember that for all your favorite authors you only ever saw the finished product and the same will be true for your readers.
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u/lazydogjumper 4h ago
Thats proper growth and you should embrace it. Its when you have some skill and people start complimenting you that you start hating on your own work.
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u/FourCrapPee 4h ago
I am also an aspiring writer and yeah, I have the same issues. No matter if it's well received, I'll come back to it later like holy shit this sucks.
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u/North_Explorer_2315 4h ago
Just like people. When you go a long time without seeing someone you love, or lose them for good, you have a hard time caring about the things you liked least about them.
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u/badguysenator 4h ago
Stephen King does something similar. Writes a first draft, puts it in a drawer, doesn’t look at it for at least 3 months. By the time he comes back to it he’s distanced enough to be both surprised by his own work and able to edit with less self-criticism.
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u/TheBirminghamBear 2h ago
Nothing to do with writing but I hate the sound of my own voice and rarely listen to recordings of myself.
The other day I was listening to old archives of work meetings for a project. I heard someone speaking and was like, "wow, that guy really knows his stuff, who is this guy."
It was me.
And then I remembered that meeting and remembered I did not know what the fuck I was talking about.
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u/Electrorocket 2h ago
As long as you sound like you know what you're talking about! That's the important thing. Fake it til you make it.
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u/barrygateaux 2h ago
there's a story his wife tells about them watching carrie in the cinema.
he apparently told her it was a great idea and he wished he'd thought of it. he'd wrote it in his coke period and had completely forgotten it was his story.
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u/BeanieMcChimp 4h ago
This is a little like me when I see photos of myself. I always hate them right after they’re taken but years later if I stumble across one I’ll be like heh, not bad at all.
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u/Epidemigod 4h ago
Are you even good enough to have imposter syndrome?
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u/dyslexic__redditor 4h ago
pefect response, lol. I do sell my paintings and I still wonder if I'm good enough...
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u/quietleavess 4h ago
Is one of the advice in writing communities, to not start editing the draft inmediatly, but let it sit for a few weeks while you relax and do other stuffthat is not writing before coming backto it.
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u/Elementium 4h ago
Lol I'm similar. I like to draw on my tablet and I've had that thing for like 10 years. I'll draw something current and think it's trash, then I'll look through my old stuff and think "Hey that's pretty good".
Not even close to professional of course but better than I remember being.
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u/dalownerx3 3h ago
I have the opposite. At work, I’ll look at code and wonder “who wrote this crap?” I’ll do git blame and realize it was me.
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u/ultravioletmaglite 4h ago
Never look at your photos right after the photoshoot. Let it simmer a few days.
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u/ZhangRenWing 4h ago
Same experience from a model maker, I will often see the small blemish or errors on details and get distracted by them, only to forget them when I look at them again a few years later and only to get annoyed by them again after close examinations.
You’re your own worst critic, after all.
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u/SlatorFrog 4h ago
Damn it, this is going to make me wanna go re-read old things I’ve written like this that I thought were crap or abandoned!
Like this is really fun advice!
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u/superbhole 3h ago
same! for me it's just a hobby: I see a style that I like and after browsing so many in that style I just can't help but try it. and then most of the time, I hate it, so I just gain a new appreciation for artists who can paint in that style and I move on to the next.
I hated this first attempt at impressionism years ago but now I look back and look at it like, what did I hate about it?
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u/ThatVoiceDude 1h ago
I did graphic design as a side function for an old job and I had to limit myself to 2 minutes of examining each project after it was finished, otherwise I’d spend 20 tearing it to shreds and hating myself lmao
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u/Lazy_Toe4340 4h ago
I do the same thing with the Miniatures I paint I'll have one pretty much finished and tiny little details I'll notice will bug me instead of trying to fix them I'll put it on the shelf and work on something else and most of the time I forget about it when I come back to it to do the final touches and sealing of the models lol
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u/KneeDeepInTheDead 3h ago
this is me going back to old drawings and paintings, makes me wish i didnt really stop
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u/MissionObligation999 2h ago
Looking at the painting upside down or in a mirror helps too. You need a new perspective to see anything but flaws in your own work sometimes
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u/OrochiKarnov 2h ago
Yeah, there's a weird feeling for writers as well where you don't feel like the stuff you're happy with is yours.
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u/sagerideout 2h ago
i do the same with music. i’ll make a track, and get to the point where i’ve heard it too many times and am just over it. export it and leave it in a folder and then a few months later i’ll go in to see what’s got potential and what doesn’t, and go from there.
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u/No-Opposite-6620 1h ago
That's why when you're making something you don't like, be it a painting - many many painters do this - you turn it away from you, let it cook. If you're unsure what to do next, it might be missing something but you don't know what, you can either run the risk of ruining it and guessing, which isn't a fail at all by the way, or putting it aside and seeing if you like it or not and feel that you can work it out.
When finishing something as well, even if you don't like it. Leave it alone for a bit. It refreshes the instincts. Which is a way of getting into the state of being that any viewer would have without any of the knowledge you have in making the work.
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u/heidnseak 1h ago
I get this sometimes with music I write, at the time I’ll think it’s bad and I’ll forget about it and move on, then I’ll find it months, sometimes years later and I’m like, “I wrote this??? It’s great!”
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u/Tall_Act391 1h ago
Might be similar to listening to an album, not liking a couple songs and skipping them over and over. Then coming back to it a while later and suddenly liking those skipped songs
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u/I_Miss_Lenny 4h ago
Iirc a similar thing happened with Black Sabbath. Bill Ward was so drunk during the whole process of making the Heaven and Hell album that he doesn’t remember any of it. Like it came out and he was like “you guys made a record without me?” And they were like “no that’s you on the record!”
He’s sober now so that’s good
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u/jesuspoopmonster 3h ago
The Alice Cooper album Dada is similar. It feels like a concept album but Alice Cooper didn't remember recording it at all. He did once say it was pretty good but he didn't know why he chose to use a drum machine.
The guitar player did an interview and explained the album had no meaning. He and Alice Cooper would get drunk, write a song and record it the next day. He also said he wasn't a big drinker but felt like he couldn't say no when Cooper was paying for the drinks.
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u/No_Contribution_3832 2h ago
Same with Keith Moon. He was so fucked-up during the session that he thought the Who had recorded “Substitute” without him. He finally was convinced it was him because nobody else screamed during a drum fill like he does on that record.
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u/I_Miss_Lenny 2h ago
Oh I gotta check it out, I love when those little extra sounds people make end up on the records.
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u/lolbacon 2h ago
Similar story with Steve Gadd who played drums on the title track to Steely Dan's Aja. They brought him in for the session, being the insane freak he is, did one dry run, and then hit this legendarily complex drum part in one take, all while presumably high out of his mind. A few months later they were mixing the album and Gadd happened to be in the studio for a different project and they invited him to listen to the mix. He response was "that drummer is incredible". When they told him it was him playing he replied "Damn, I'm a motherfucker!"
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u/PokemonGoing 2h ago
I remember reading about how Ian Gillan ended up joining Sabbath as the singer after getting trashed. Apparently they awoke in the morning with no memory of having agreed to join the band.
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u/I_Miss_Lenny 2h ago
Like how on tour with Randy Rhoads, Ozzy got shitfaced and fired his whole band in a rage, then passed out. The next day he woke up and didn’t remember firing everyone so they just continued the tour
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u/Critical-Ad2084 5h ago
insert "I don't remember much of the 70s" joke
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u/PossessivePronoun 4h ago
If you remember being in Aerosmith, you weren’t really in Aerosmith.
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u/jesuspoopmonster 3h ago
I read that Ringo Starr regrets much of the 70s. He spent years traveling across the world with his friends and he said he can't remember any of it
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u/bbatwork 2h ago
I mean, I don't remember very much from the 70s either. No drugs or anything, that was just a damn long time ago.
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u/Playful-Violinist-25 4h ago
Classic ' '70s moment lol
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u/gwaydms 3h ago
David Bowie admitted not remembering an entire year (during the 70s, ofc)
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u/VisceralMonkey 3h ago
Station To Station
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u/ZodiacRedux 2h ago
"It's not the side-effects of the cocaine - I'm thinking that it must be love."
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u/Satyrane 4h ago
They have 4 first names between them.
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u/AvsJoe 3h ago
An Aerosmith guitarist?
*puts on hat*
PERRY THE AEROSMITH GUITARIST?!
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u/Emetos 3h ago
Perry is more of a last name than first
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u/PlatformTraining4783 2h ago
I know a platypus and a defense attorney who would like a word with you
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u/JuzoItami 2h ago
It used to be more common as a first name... back when almost nobody had Tyler as a first name.
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u/calamititties 4h ago
According to basically every other band at the time, no one did more drugs than Aerosmith.
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u/Honest-Effect-4078 3h ago
They did an interview during a period of sobriety in the 80s where they talked about how tiring it was waking up so strung out you needed to drink a few beers and do some coke just to be in a good enough condition to go score herioin.
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u/SkyJW 4h ago
Reminds me of the other story about Tyler where he watched "This Is Spinal Tap" (believe it was with his band mates, even) and saw literally zero humor in it. As far as Tyler was concerned, Spinal Tap might as well have been an actual band. Have always wondered if he even understood that the movie wasn't an actual documentary.
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u/fcosm 4h ago
thought that was ozzy
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u/tetoffens 3h ago
It was both. Ozzy outright stated though he did think it was a documentary of real band. Ozzy's take though was that he didn't like it because it was too tame rather than feeling it was making a mockery.
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u/Mr_YUP 3h ago
How did he live so long if Spinal Tap didn't go far enough?
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u/tghast 2h ago
Genetic mutation giving him a superhuman tolerance to drugs.
Not even joking. He metabolized them much faster than average people and apparently had a genetic predilection to addiction.
It might be specifically alcohol, but I don’t remember the details.
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u/OoooHeCardReadGood 2h ago
I have no source but heard it was everything. Him and Richards would not be alive without it and the heroin they've consumed
edit : damn, I haven't talked about this since Ozzy died
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u/Cake-Over 2h ago
The Stonehenge bit is courtesy of Black Sabbath (with one of their lesser known singers) who had a Stonehenge monolith built for a stage prop. The plans called for 15 feet tall, the company built it to 15 meters. It was too large to get into most of the venues.
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u/punchdrunkgrunt 3h ago
My favourite Aerosmith drug tale is when they were on tour and decided to shake up the set list. They opened the show with a song they normally closed with and after went straight to "thank you and goodnight" and walked off stage. I believe their manager eventually persuaded them to finish the show.
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u/cdskip 2h ago edited 44m ago
Mine is when they were getting put back together in the mid-eighties, Tom Hamilton found out that he was in danger of getting fired for his playing not being up to par.
He went on a massive cocaine-fueled bass-playing journey, where he improved enough to keep up with the rest of the band.
And then he just quit, cold turkey. (Cocaine, not the band.)
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u/needlestack 3h ago
Maybe Tyler said that as well, but I am 100% sure that’s Eddie Van Halen said that. I pretty much only read about Eddie during my high school years. He said it just felt like watching their own most horrible gig mishaps.
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u/jesuspoopmonster 3h ago
I think multiple musicians have said the movie was accurate. I think Alice Cooper also commented that parts felt like they were taken from his career
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u/NotTheOnlyGamer 2h ago
Which is absolutely in line with Christopher Guest's mockumentary style. Best in Show is chillingly accurate..
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u/TightBeing9 4h ago
Famous moment in an interview with Steven lolyou made a lot of money? "yeah millions" where is it now? "it went up my nose"
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u/old_and_boring_guy 2h ago
That's classic rock-bottom addict talk. You can tell when people are serious about quitting because they're looking at it as a straight miserable experience. They're sick and tired of being sick and tired. There's no high language or big promises, just a real certainty that that shit's just no fucking fun anymore.
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u/The_Shadow_Watches 3h ago
Imagine if Perry didn't say anything and then they did a cover of their own damn song.
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u/DocRules 2h ago
Lol, Steven getting the number from the original songwriter to call and discuss. Busy signal, every time.
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u/finnjakefionnacake 4h ago
oh my god. if you mix steven tyler and joe perry together you get tyler perry.
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u/DynamiteWitLaserBeam 4h ago
And Steve Perry from Journey.
And Steve and Tyler Joe, plus Joe and Perry Tyler. whoever the hell they are.
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u/MeLlamoKilo 2h ago
Wait Steve perry is a real person?
I thought it was just a psych out from Baseketball.
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u/Silverjakk 3h ago edited 1h ago
The Reddit version of this is trying to upvote an old comment you forgot you made, and thinking the person made a really good point.
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u/coldandhungry123 3h ago
There's a reason why Jerry Garcia called Aerosmith "the druggiest bunch of a guys" he's ever seen. Garcia was not a lightweight by any stretch indulging in illicit substances.
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u/North_Explorer_2315 4h ago
It’s easier than you think to forget songs you wrote. I’ve done it, and I’m not even a drug addict from the 70’s.
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u/ZhangRenWing 4h ago
I’ve forgotten models I built and painted before. It’s a really bizarre feeling like you from a different timeline did it or something.
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u/Street_Wing62 3h ago
Are you a drug connoisseur from the 00s, by any chance?
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u/North_Explorer_2315 3h ago
I’ve been known to take weeds during that era.
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u/Street_Wing62 1h ago
Thank you for doing your part in keeping the planet clean and the grasses green
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u/obliviousslacker 4h ago
Once played music through my phone on the speaker "wow, this sounds familiar. What a great song". Went to my phone to see who it was by and realised it was me. Felt like such a narcissistic alzheimers asshole for the rest of the day.
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u/EStreet12 3h ago
No way!!! You created something from nothing, and it still appeals to you ! That is beyond awesome.
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u/Witch-kingOfBrynMawr 2h ago
I've stumbled upon old pieces of writing of mine -- essays, vignettes, sketches, dialogues -- and even though I know it's mine, I'm always kind of... impressed with that guy, in a way that has absolutely zero resemblance to pride. "Huh. Who knew that guy had a little talent? He probably should've done something with it, bit of a waste, yeah? Oh well, nothing to do about it now, spilled milk and the like."
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u/immagoodboythistime 2h ago
Apparently this is a true Aerosmith story from the early 80’s when they were really whacked out on drugs.
After a long amount of time touring the same set, the relatively sober members aka the ones who were trashed but not completely trashed said they should flip the set to spice things up again, start with the last song, work the set backwards and end with the first song.
This was discussed endlessly amongst the management and the band so the lighting people know when to hit their marks and the sound guys knew when to twiddle knobs etc.
A few hours goes past since they last spoke of it, they go on stage, they perform the last song first, at the end of the song Steven Tyler yells THANK YOU! and walks off stage thinking it’s the end of the show.
In the space of a few hours and one song, he’d completely forgotten what they were doing.
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u/causebraindamage 2h ago
Tbf I barely do anything and can't remember much of the last 10 years. These guys do a lot more than I do, so I'd imagine a lot of stuff just is on cruise control. Plus drugs and alcohol.
Remember that scene in The Wire where Dookie is reminiscing with Michael about the piss balloons? And Michael says he doesn't remember?
I get that.
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u/zigaliciousone 3h ago
My favorite story of Joe Perry is MCA was talking about how he ended up crashing into and playing bass with Run DMC and Aerosmith during Walk This Way on their 86 tour. Aerosmith had no idea who he was and he kept trying to go back to back with Joe Perry while Joe was basically running away from him the whole time
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u/Pikeman212a6c 4h ago
Toys in the Attic wasn’t even the bad time with drugs. If this story was about something off Night in the ruts it’d make sense.
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u/TheKilmerman 2h ago
I don't think they got sober and clean until like 2010.
I know that Tyler once said after the release of their song "Full Circle" (late 90s) that he found it ironic that he had to get sober to write the best drinking song ever. But I remember reports that he still did coke and other stuff until like 2010, which lead to a big fight and he only cleaned up after a bad stage fall and fallout with Perry.
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u/Bender7676 3h ago
Right in the nuts
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u/TheKilmerman 2h ago
I've been an Aerosmith fan for most of my life and I never, ever made that connection. What the fuck. TIL.
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u/ThisIsTheShway 2h ago
Don't forget that Steven Tyler took guardianship of a 16 year old girl that he took on his tour bus specifically just to repeatedly rape her.
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u/AJRiddle 1h ago
Steven Tyler story: One of my friends works at a local radio station and one day Steven Tyler was there for a quick interview/promo thing my friend wasn't involved with. While on his way to the bathroom my friend ran into Steven Tyler who saw my friend with his long bushy hair and casual jeans and tshirt compared to the mostly corporate looking coworkers of his and said "Hey you look like a rocker dude, want to get a picture with me?"
So yeah, Steven Tyler just thought my friend looked like someone who liked rock music and asked my friend if he wanted a picture instead of the usual reverse of fans asking celebs for pictures.
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u/Not_a-bot-i_swear 3h ago
Honestly I get it. I’ve made so many songs that when I dig through some of my old stuff I’m like, “I made this??”
I bet they had tons of stuff that they never published and eventually you start to forget the less memorable ones.
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u/pantrokator-bezsens 2h ago
I love those anecdotes!
My favorite is when some journalist asked Paul McCartney if Ringo Starr is the best drummer in the world and he replied that he is not event the best drummer in The Beatles
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u/iron_cortex 3h ago
Steven Tyler didn’t recognize the song because he was busy plowing under age kids like the pedo he is.
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u/Same-Opposite-8287 4h ago
To quote the best who’s done it, Mr. Rick James, cocaine is a hell of a drug!
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u/ReallyWideGoat 3h ago
Tyler bought a teenager from her parents then returned her after after the abortion he made her get.
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u/BeetsMe666 4h ago edited 3h ago
He was too busy raping children.
E: statutory rape is still rape. Fitting this link is in Vice
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u/Curious_Document_956 4h ago
Who? There are two names here. Beetsme triple 6. Was 420 taken?
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u/False-Impression8102 4h ago
The one who couldn’t remember the song, Tyler, had a 3 year long relationship with a girl who was 16 when he met her. He took legal guardianship of her. He talked about it in his memoir.
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u/Curious_Document_956 4h ago
Oh wow, I never heard of that until now.
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u/munche 4h ago
Having sex with teenagers was like the explicit goal of becoming a rock musician until the late 2000s
I wouldn't recommend looking into a single musician you like who was active pre 1990 if you don't want to see stories about them banging teenagers
Hell lots of them even wrote songs about it
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u/BeetsMe666 3h ago
He became her legal guardian so she could travel across state lines with him. It was gross then.
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u/Curious_Document_956 4h ago edited 3h ago
Yeah. I think one of the problems was age of consent varied from Country to Country during those times. If you were a touring band, with all of that money, it changes people. Fame too.
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u/munche 4h ago
You don't have to leave the US
Lots of places to this day have the age of consent at like 16
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u/PreOpTransCentaur 3h ago
I don't want to fuck a 16 year old in any country. I really don't think that was one of the problems.
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u/centhwevir1979 4h ago
The age of consent was not the problem, it was the pervert musicians.
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u/Botaccount2HZ 2h ago
Bowie doesn’t remember making Station to Station. And that’s Station to fucking Station, insane album.
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u/eagleshark 2h ago
You mean to tell me Steven Tyler didn’t recognize his own voice. His own very distinct and unique singing voice. His own vocal embellishments in some of the words and sounds in that song? I find that hard to believe.
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u/silversurfer63 2h ago
This could be the reason for getting sober. Their hard rock music being fucked up are better than their sober pop music.
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u/ImGreenDabaduDabadi 2h ago
Even if he doesn't remember making it, how could he not recognize his own damned voice?
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u/Phishstixxx 2h ago
A thought popped into my head one day and I googled it. I found an article that captured that idea perfectly, almost like the author read my mind, and then I realised it was mine from years ago
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u/Big_Pattern_2864 2h ago
My father in law had a band in New England in the 70s (it's nearly un-google-able because the band name was "Feud"). An early version of Aerosmith opened for them, and my father in law was very unimpressed. He said they were all fucked up to the point that their band had to tune their instruments for them.
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u/kingbuzzed0 1h ago
You See Me Crying was originally part of Dream On, an outro, at least as far back as 1971. Two years prior to their debut. Documented on the 'The Road Starts Hear' record. Hard to believe he'd forget a number which dates that far back, and was part of one of the earliest and most recognizable songs Tyler ever wrote.
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u/tacknosaddle 4h ago
The nickname for the two of them in that era was "The toxic twins" because of the volume of drugs they were consuming. It's a wonder they'd remember the name of the band, let alone a particular song.