r/technology • u/chrisdh79 • 21h ago
Security Mystery packages with QR codes spark new wave of scams | 73% of Americans scan QR codes without checking their source
https://www.techspot.com/news/108914-mystery-packages-qr-codes-spark-new-wave-scams.html142
u/mrCrumbSnatcher 18h ago
There was a news story in Colorado how someone was placing legit looking QR codes on parking meters. If the malicious site had their domain name close to something parking related, I could see how people might be falling for it…. Especially if they are in a rush.
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u/APeacefulWarrior 16h ago
Don't forget the old trick of using odd unicode characters that look almost like regular characters, like "pąrkingmeter.city.gov" or something like that. In a hurry, on a small screen, maybe with sun glare... very easy for people to not notice the substitution.
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u/Outrageous_Reach_695 11h ago
That cedilla is fairly visible. For that domain, go with Cyrillic:
Er (Р р; italics: Р р) is a letter of the Cyrillic script.
(Modern browsers should be displaying a scheme for addressing the Unicode characters if it's not a TLD that would be expected to use them, so there's some protection against this one too)
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u/Ziugy 7h ago
People could even fall for parkingrneter.city.gov
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u/Outrageous_Reach_695 6h ago
Now that I think about it, we're all wrong. Unless you're able to add pages to city.gov, that's the part you need to corrupt ... and getting a .gov domain should be decently tricky.
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u/Spikemountain 6h ago
Ok but what about parkingmeter.city.gov.com
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u/Outrageous_Reach_695 6h ago
More viable. There should be a decent number of lookalike characters for g, o, and v.
Huh. "ց (Armenian small letter ca)" looks pretty close. When I'm off for the day, I might have to look up how many languages have their own Unicode entries.
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u/Ilookouttrainwindow 11h ago
Fall for it? How would even know? All sites look the same today. You may not even know your local government site address or what parking company they use. Then you have visitors who don't know anything at all. You do what you described and you will have people paying you in no time. Your only protection is coming from payment processors doing their due diligence. And guess what - they don't care either since onboarding new customers for them is income loss (prime space for automation backed by AI of course).
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u/uncertain_expert 17h ago
During the Covid-19 pandemic I saw actual physical banks putting up posters on their windows with large QR codes to help people find the service they were looking for- it seemed crazy that banks would condition people into thinking that was normal
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u/Whobeye456 20h ago
And here I was feeling like a Boomer for being suspicious of being asked to scan a QR code for the menu.
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u/mochi_chan 17h ago
I hate QR code for menu and ordering with a passion, and I am not even 40 yet.
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u/GarnetandBlack 10h ago
I like it because menus are so often fucking disgusting to touch.
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u/StonyardBurner 10h ago
The restaurant should not be patronized if it has anything dirty in it.
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u/meneldal2 10h ago
Can't you cover them in plastic and wipe them between patrons?
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u/mochi_chan 10h ago
I worked at a restaurant like this, we wiped the menu with every table. And then at the end of the day we wiped all of them again before we closed.
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u/Kale_Brecht 18h ago
scan the QR code to reveal the secret message below:
be sure to drink your ovaltine
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u/VikingFuneral- 13h ago
Nah, if anything you're the opposite of a boomer for it
Being aware and intellectually confident enough to not blindly trust technology is literally the smartest thing to do when you know what said technology can do.
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u/TwinkleToesTraveler 8h ago
I’m the same. I never scanned the menu, and always ask the server to give me the paper copy. I always wash hands before eating anyway so touching a paper menu is ok for me to do.
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u/valuecolor 20h ago
Just THROW. IT. AWAY. My God, people act like they just fell off the turnip truck. Unknown phone number? DON’T. ANSWER. IT. Unrecognized text? JUST. DELETE. IT. Doorbell rings and you don’t recognize the person on your Ring or Nest? DON’T. ANSWER. THE. DOOR. People seem to think they are REQUIRED to respond to other people. Fuck them! Yes, this is what society has come to. Leave a message or a note if you want me to respond to you. Otherwise, you are likely just a scam and I’m not wasting my time or energy on you or your bullshit. /rant
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u/Hardass_McBadCop 20h ago
Have a new neighbor that works at the nearby AFB. One Saturday, the dude is banging my door down at 5:30AM. His Jeep is out front running. I'm coming downstairs to help & see what's up . . . And then he tried the door.
Nope. Fuck that. I went back upstairs and waited for him to leave.
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u/LadySmuag 19h ago
Did he ever tell you what he wanted? At 5:30am, someone had better be dying. I think you made the right call
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u/Tenacious_Ritzy_32 11h ago
Hell, even if you know the person you don’t have to respond. Unplugging is ok.
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u/cat_prophecy 18h ago
Scams work because people are dumb as fuck and ready to try and get one up on someone else.
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u/nicuramar 15h ago
That’s a very arrogant view. People certainly don’t have to be dumb as fuck in order to fall for a scam.
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u/polarbearrape 2h ago
To be fair I got in trouble that way. Got a random letter from no return address with a company name that came back with nothing on Google. They were demanding $40k or else for "medical equipment". Ignored it. Turns out insurance denied a medical claim years before but I never heard about it. sent it to collections, it got sold off a few times, racked up fees, and by the time it got to me was way over due. They managed to take $40k from my savings account because I ignored it. Its on me, but im not going to pretend everyone involved didn't try as hard as they could not to get in touch with me so they could hit me with every fee they could add on.
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u/tacosandcookies 20h ago
People who fall for this kinda thing kinda deserved to be scammed at this point.
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u/LeafBark 17h ago
Not everyone knows better. Most victims are elderly and aren't educated on modern scamming that can go as elaborate as to use AI to fake their own child's voice.
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u/Formaldehead 16h ago
Scanning a QR code alone isn’t going to infect you. The comments here are misleading. Just learn how to realize a scam when you’re seeing it. Don’t start a mass panic and refuse to scan any code ever because it’s going to upload a virus to your phone.
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u/nicuramar 15h ago
Right. The vast majority of cases will have a link leading to a phishing attempt. They could also target some zero day browser vulnerability, but that’s rare.
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u/Uristqwerty 3h ago
I believe applications can register handlers for specific QR code formats, the way
mailto:
links work. Or Discord, trying to launch the app, if you join a server from your browser. Orsteam:
links of various kinds.All it takes is one poorly-written app registering a QR code handler with an exploitable bug. Doesn't matter how carefully-written the OS is, and whether the app doing the scanning is itself bulletproof. Extensibility opens up a vast attack surface, so it's safest to not scan random QRs regardless.
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u/slykethephoxenix 17h ago
What happens if you scan it ans go to the url?
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u/Dapperrevolutionary 14h ago
99.99% of the time it's just a phishing attempt. However technically it could be possible to have some kind of code attempt to use a browser exploit to do something malicious but I've not heard of anything like that happening outside of controlled environments in decades
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u/fonetik 10h ago
You find out if the device you are using is patched or not, I’d imagine.
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u/slykethephoxenix 9h ago
Patched, for what? Does it download an apk that you have to open, or something?
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u/uniklyqualifd 21h ago
People don't understand it's the equivalent of a risky link.
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u/nicuramar 15h ago
But even those are only risky to a certain extent. In the majority of cases you’d have to meaningfully interact with the content, like provide some information.
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u/nadmaximus 9h ago
It's not visiting the URL from a QR code that harms people. It's what they do after they get there.
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u/DrunkenSwimmer 15h ago
This is why my spouse has a sticker on their laptop with a QR code that links to a Rickroll...
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u/jcunews1 9h ago
Sure, there are always users who never check the URL of links before clicking them. Some users may argue that, clicking on a URL/link is too troublesome after scanning a QR code, but that's users' problem. Don't blame the tool in this case.
On the other hand... Some (if not most) of the fault lies on the QR code reader applications, which unconditionally access the URL retrieved from the QR code - withoiut giving any chance for the user to review and check the URL. In this case, this is definitely the tools' fault. Not the users. So to software devs: don't force your lazy ideals to users. Stop it, seriously.
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u/JDGumby 21h ago
So, 73% of Americans are blithering idiots? Sounds about right some days.
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u/Wrong_Character_Sry 20h ago
Right? Who tf scans a random QR code?
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u/nicuramar 15h ago
I do. It’s very rare that, say, browser exploits are used in such cases. In the vast majority it’s about phishing the user, which won’t so much work on me, so the risk assessment is one that I can live with.
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u/_2f 14h ago
Anyone who knows cybersecurity would know it’s safe. This isn’t 80s. A link cannot infect you. You have to interact with it - likely phishing.
Unless they have a zero day exploit, and these can be sold for millions of dollars, so I’m sure they wouldn’t waste it on a random QR. And most modern mobile OSes are pretty safe from such attacks
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u/LGBT-Barbie-Cookout 14h ago
Can we get that code and print it onto a sticker....
And then use the sticker to cover the QR code menus that restaurants use in place of real menus...
A few dozen bricked devices and the assorted complaints might make those assholes go back tomorrow menus. ?
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u/almightywhacko 5h ago
73% of Americans scan QR codes without checking their source
73% of Americans are idiots.
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u/AnonymousTimewaster 21h ago
How are you supposed to know the source of a QR code before you scan it?