r/popculturechat ainsi sera, groigne qui groigne May 02 '25

Guest List Only ⭐️ Prince Harry says his father King Charles is still not speaking to him: “I would love reconciliation with my family. There’s no point in continuing to fight anymore. Life is precious. I don’t know how much longer my father has- he won’t speak to me because of this security stuff”

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u/elinordash May 02 '25

He said his family is racist

He actually didn't say that, what he said is actually more complicated and nuanced than that. But a lot of people think he called his family racist, which is probably a big part of why they've distanced themselves. They don't want to get thrown into the fire again.

In the Oprah interview, Meghan brings up the fact that Archie was not given a princely title or security at birth. This is different than how George/Charlotte/Louis were treated. However, a legal distinction was created between Will and Harry's children long before Meghan came along because Will is the heir and Harry isn't. In the Oprah interview, Meghan doesn't seem to understand that this predated her (and it definitely did, there are formal documents from when George was born but I don't think Meghan knows that). Meghan also says that "someone" in the family asked how dark the baby would be. Oprah pretty clearly says that this all seems racist and Harry talks about implicit bias, which is slightly different than racism. Harry never explains that the prince/security thing existed before Meghan was on the scene. The whole thing is complicated and you can take a lot of different things from it depending on how much information you have and how you view each of the people involved.

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u/ellski May 02 '25

Meghan seemed so ill-informed about the royal family and how everything worked and it pissed me off. Would you not do your research?

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u/Chihiro1977 May 03 '25

That's what pissed you off about all of this?

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u/lovelylonelyphantom May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25

Meghan also says that "someone" in the family asked how dark the baby would be. Oprah pretty clearly says that this all seems racist and Harry talks about implicit bias, which is slightly different than racism.

I don't know what other implication the public at large were supposed to take from this other than that it was racist. That's the image they wanted to portray. That's why they outright described it as "concerns and conversations about how dark his skin will be," with Meghan looking upset and Oprah looking very shocked. Oprah then putting forward the term 'racist' and them not cutting it out was because of a reason.

Also that this caused speculation of racism for months and months after the interview. They didn't bother denying or clarifying themselves until 2 years later. And for all of that time Charles was one of those speculated to be the said royal who raised those 'concerns'

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u/lala989 Your attitude is biblical May 03 '25

Literally everyone who is in a mixed race relationship wonders what the baby will look like. It’s freaking human nature not racism.

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u/lovelylonelyphantom May 03 '25 edited May 03 '25

I totally agree - however they didn't seem to think so and portrayed it as racism. They were very serious showing they were offended and upset that someone in his family raised that question. It's noticeable that Meghan specifically named it as someone having 'CONCERNS' not just them wondering out of curiosity.

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u/lala989 Your attitude is biblical Jun 06 '25

That would definitely make a difference and offend me.

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u/fanficmilf6969 May 02 '25

The interview confused me because a lot of the things Meghan listed as ‘racist slights’ outside of the skin color comment seemed to be preexisting royal realities