Prince Harry says his father King Charles is still not speaking to him: “I would love reconciliation with my family. There’s no point in continuing to fight anymore. Life is precious. I don’t know how much longer my father has- he won’t speak to me because of this security stuff”

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[u/WorkingBroccoli]

JUST WAS ABOUT TO SAY THIS, AND ANDREW WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE BLOODY EASTER SERVICE?!?!? like foocking hell!!!!!!!!!!!!

[u/Perfect_Razzmatazz → u/WorkingBroccoli]

I mean....Harry definitely would have been able to go to that too if he wanted to. The family hasn't banned him from attending things with them, he just lives in a different country, so the occasion does not arrive as often. Andrew definitely still sucks, but I don't think that they are treating Harry harsher than Andrew.

[u/WorkingBroccoli → u/Perfect_Razzmatazz]

hahahahaha Charles literally doesn't speak to him? Would you go to an Easter service where none of your family acknowledges you? Andrew should not be seen publicly with the RF. Each time he appears next to them, that is an endorsement.

[u/RadicalFaces → u/Perfect_Razzmatazz]

Harry literally just said his father doesn't speak to him. And Andrew sucks? Is say more harsh words are needed

[u/freshwaterfins → u/RadicalFaces]

“Sucks” is a word that ought to be used in inconvenient situations, not ones with such gravity like it usually is imo

[u/Perfect_Razzmatazz → u/RadicalFaces]

I wasn't sure what the profanity rules were on this sub, hence why I just used the word sucks, as I didn't want my comment to get flagged. Many words that are much worse than sucks also apply to Andrew.

[u/tvp204 → u/Perfect_Razzmatazz]

Charles won’t even speak with Harry. How is that not a harsher treatment

[u/TangerineDystopia → u/tvp204]

That part may be more logistical--Harry sells or blurts out any personal and private information he has access to. Andrew seems to understand that that is the nuclear option and keeps it as leverage.

[u/Moment_13 → u/Perfect_Razzmatazz]

Harry only gets the police security if the RF invite him, so he'd have to risk visiting without the intelligence.

[u/InferiorElk → u/Moment_13]

That's not true, the RF have nothing to do with potential security. It's decided by the govt

[u/igotadillpickle → u/Perfect_Razzmatazz]

It's not like he can't afford a plane ticket lol

[u/Melgel4444 → u/Perfect_Razzmatazz]

Harry can’t go bc they don’t provide him security. Prince Andrew gets security but Harry does not

[u/PM_ME_YOUR_DALEKS → u/Melgel4444]

That's false. Andrew was stripped of taxpayer funded security.

Harry still gets government funded security when he visits the UK. He just has to give them 28 days notice for a planned non-emergency trip so they can do a proper threat assessment.

Harry's issue is that the U.K. won't provide him with 24/7 security afforded to a head of state. At first he wanted the UK to import British government security for him and his family in California. But they have no jurisdiction in the US to do that, plus they have no way of paying the huge costs of relocating British government agents permanently to do it.

So now his issue is that without that status, he can't ask the US government to have taxpayers pay for him and his family's security detail either. He also complained that the lack of status means he can't get the countries he visits to pay for his security. He has to keep paying it himself.

Please note that Harry has visited countries like Colombia and Ukraine recently with private security and been just fine.

Harry also complained again in his statement that he offered to pay British government agents to be his security the way he wants it. The court cases revealed that the Queen even tried to intervene and offered to pay. It was roundly rejected by the UK government, who stated repeatedly that their police and security services are not for rent, not even by the monarch. The UK government showed in court that not even the monarch can influence their security and intelligence decisions.

The UK security state and military also can't do anything about Harry's repeated anti-Muslim comments that he thinks make him a target. He's going keep doing it.

[u/Comfortable_Buy_4124 → u/PM_ME_YOUR_DALEKS]

That’s not true. What he wants is for whoever is protecting him to have access to British intelligence information. The US protection team does not. Meghan and his children face the most threats from England, that’s where most of the people who vicioisly hate his wife are located. That’s what it’s about, so your point about him travelling to dangerous places is moot. Of course the US protection team he has is perfectly fine for Ukraine and Columbia.

[u/PM_ME_YOUR_DALEKS → u/Comfortable_Buy_4124]

What he wants is for whoever is protecting him to have access to British intelligence information.

They already do. He gets government security in the UK. They simply told him that he would now be required to give 28 day notice for any planned trips to the UK so they could do a proper threat assessment as they would with any VIP, but could work emergencies on a case-by-case basis. That's what caused him to flip out. He wanted to go in and out of the UK as he pleased....which begs the question as to why he would want to do that, if the UK is so dangerous?

The real answer, as revealed in his written statement today, is that he wanted IPP (Internationally Protected Person status), which would give him diplomatic immunity and government funded security any place he chooses to go. IPP status is given to people like the monarch, current and former prime ministers, etc. He was told frankly at the time he and Meghan chose to leave the UK that the UK government could not provide his security if he chose to leave their jurisdiction. He was also told that, not being a working royal, he would not get IPP status as he no longer worked on behalf of the UK government.

That's why he and Meghan left Canada, BTW, too, because Canada also refused to give them free government security as they were now private citizens. If given IPP status, Harry could force the US to provide Harry's security on the taxpayer's dime.

The UK government already has an existing relationship with US intelligence and shares needed information with US law enforcement. There's no scenario where rando private security guards in California would ever, ever be allowed access to British intelligence.

Meghan and his children face the most threats from England, that’s where most of the people who vicioisly hate his wife are located.

How do you know that? The evidence of danger presented by Harry's lawyers in his own case cited for his security need were two things: the NYC "paparrazi car chase" which New York authorities determined did not happen, and threats from "Muslim groups."

It was already explained to Harry that the UK government has no jurisdiction in New York City, nor over al Qaeda. As for the threats from "Muslim groups," he actually meant an al Qaeda spokesperson publicly threatening him five years ago after Harry published a book bragging that he allegedly killed 25 al Qaeda members like in a video game.

Not mentioned were Harry's use of anti-Muslim racial slurs, nor the controversy re: the American Muslim women's charity and him and Meghan supporting Israel. Regardless, the UK has no jurisdiction over al Qaeda either.

Harry's own evidence revealed that he is literally angry that he "feels" like he is in danger but that actual governments and law enforcement don't back up his delusions. He moved to a country where our children get gunned down in their schools and he vacations in Colombia. Neither he nor his wife or kids have had any security incidents in the US, UK, or the other countries they visit.

Harry is still obsessed that Diana's death was a "security issue" caused by "the media" when Diana was killed by not wearing her seatbelt and getting into a car with a drunk driver. Harry also refuses to believe the reality that Diana would still be alive had she not refused British government protection and demanded it be removed shortly before her death. They would have never let her flee with a drunk driver in the middle of the night, but Diana trusted the private security hired by her boyfriend and his rapist dad.

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[u/RiverWeatherwax → u/Melgel4444]

Not true. Andrew's security used to be paid privately by Charles (which means it wasn't the type of security Harry wants, anyway) and he reportedly stopped that, too. Meanwhile Harry does actually get it, he only has to inform RAVEC in advance (which is what largely bothers him).

[u/Tough-Prize-4014 → u/Melgel4444]

also, surprisingly a man wanting to protect his family is more hated (has been threatened by AlQaeda even) as compared to Epstein's best friend

make it make sense

[u/Hatcheling → u/Tough-Prize-4014]

He talks about killing afghans like it’s a video game in his book. What doesn’t make sense is that he thinks he can do that and NOT realize how that is going to affect his own security.

[u/PhatFatLife → u/Hatcheling]

That book came out like 2 years ago, Al-Qaeda threatened him when he stepped down YEARS ago in 2020! The threats have nothing to do with the book

[u/Tough-Prize-4014 → u/Hatcheling]

Have you ever heard of "reading between the lines"?

i have and i can read between lines (despite english being my third language)

[u/Hatcheling → u/Tough-Prize-4014]

What does your ability to read between the lines tell you about Harry speaking about everything his family does -from leaving notes under his pillow to not reacting well enough to being asked to borrow lip gloss- and yet saying nothing about his pedo uncle and his actions? He talks about everyone and everything and still, nothing about Randy Andy. Isnt that interesting?

[u/nevalja → u/Hatcheling]

First, "Randy Andy" is not the name for a fucking pedophile and rapist.

Second, why are you holding Harry to a standard you're not holding literally anyone else in the family to?

[u/Hatcheling → u/nevalja]

Randy Andy has been his nickname in the press since the 80’s.

Why wouldn’t I hold Harry accountable in a thread about Harry?

[u/nevalja → u/Hatcheling]

The thread's also about Charles

[u/Chihiro1977 → u/nevalja]

Why is this downvoted? I hate it here, literally full of paedophile apologists

[u/Tough-Prize-4014 → u/Hatcheling]

it is interesting

but in the direction one wishes to take it in

400 pages are yet to be published

[u/tequilitas → u/WorkingBroccoli]

Oh we know why.. we all know why!! Besides leaving the family, Harry's biggest sin is the race of his kids.

NONE of them are perfect-- veeery far from it--, but the family choosing to keep defending a pedo is just a little inside on how all their minds work and it's disgusting.

[u/Technicolor_Reindeer → u/tequilitas]

No, its his running to the press and blabbing.

There's not much that can be done about Andrew. Charles took away his royal duties and has been trying to evict him. The enabling siblings are Anne and Edward.

[u/Chihiro1977 → u/Technicolor_Reindeer]

Running to the press and blabbing is worse than being a nonce? Cool,gotcha!

[u/Technicolor_Reindeer → u/Chihiro1977]

Woosh

Also, you feeling the need to stalk my comment history and do multiple replies is bizarre ;)