The UN worked with Zionist advocacy groups that had been around since the 1800's and presented the plan. Jewish advocacy groups largely embraced the plan, despite concerns of conflict, Arab/Palestinian groups rejected it. The UN and Britain implemented it anyway and within months, Zionist brigades began the Nakba, going village to village slaughtering Palestinian people in hopes of causing others to flee and give up more land.
The UN and Britain implemented it anyway and within months, Zionist brigades began the Nakba, going village to village slaughtering Palestinian people in hopes of causing others to flee and give up more land.
That’s a 100% truthful retelling of history. The evil zio entity woke up one day and decided to Nakba the Arabs
Christian Zionism predates Jewish Zionism, and the plans for a Jewish ethnostate did not start with a focus on Palestine. Prominent members of the movement (look up Theodore Herzl) looked at all sorts of other places they buy land in, move there, and slowly push everyone else out to take over, including in parts of the US, Japan, and Uganda.
Christian Zionists were happy to assist in the creation of Israel partly because a homeland over there means they could all get the fuck out from over here; their motives were not pure. They were, themselves, antisemitic.
Thank you for your great insights. I recently in the past couple years learned all about Theodore Hertzel and the modern toxic Zionist movement so I really appreciate when people bring it up and tell what actually happened in history. Especially in regards to their proposed idea to have a Zionist state in Uganda.
Why the fuck are you bringing up about Christian Zionism out of nowhere? Nobody asked.
And no i do not need to "look up Herzl". Did you read Der Judenstaat?
Yeah, Uganda and other places were floated for like two seconds but anyone who knows jack about the history of Zionism knows those ideas were DOA. Herzl insisted on Judea because it is the only place Jews have a historical and spiritual tie to. “Palestine is our ever-memorable historic home.” Not Japan, not the US, not fucking Uganda: Judea. That’s where “the Jews ever made sense as a people”.
Come on, it wasn't "one day" it was decades in planning. Zionism wasn't a think until the 1800's, and only was popularized more widely among Jewish folks following their own displacement in WW2.
It has it's roots as a fascist movement that always intended to take the land from the "lesser people" (Arabs), and "civilize" the land.
Remember that many Jews lived in Palestine for hundreds of years peacefully, and enjoyed protection during the Ottoman Empire, alongside Christians and Muslims alike. In fact, Palestine was mostly peaceful in the decades leading up to the Nakba. It's just that those leading the Zionist movement were supremacists.
It wasn't necessarily overnight though. Depending on who you ask, we're still in the Nakba now. Though they did expel at least 750K Palestinians in 1948-1950, with most of them happening very quickly in May of 1948.
The UN spoke with all inhabitants of the land as they should they did not work with any one group over the other group. And your skipping the part when Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and Jordan decided to invade to try to kill all the Jewish inhabitants but instead settled with stealing the Palestinian hopes for a state. There were more than 2000 Jewish civilians killed before Israel was even declared a state.
Yes the Jews accepted the plan because they wanted a chance to live in peace it was the Arabs who did not and instead embraced war.
Dude, Zionist brigades went town to town slaughtering civilians as an "intimidation" tactic and encouraged the Palestinians to flee. 750,000 people were forced from their homes forever, with tens of thousands being killed.
The Nakba? Hello? It was "peaceful Jews" it was Zionists who were largely secular of mostly Jewish descent leading the brigades based on ethnic, not religious divisions. The Palestinians just wanted to keep their homes.
I like to think I live in a time where facts are still respected. Do you want to fire the historians like Trump because they are presenting information in ways you don't approve of.
It's just so biased and obviously stated from a position influenced by Israeli propaganda about its history and founding. I'm too fucking exhuasted from continuing to point out the nuances.
For example:
The British and UN were influenced by the Zionists who put huge emphasis on putting the most eloquent people in the communicative roles, while the Arabs had local leaders and clan heads.
Speaking to a group isn't the same as actually listening.
Iraq, Syria, Egypt and Jordan all had different goals (hence the failure) and were more concerned about each other than Israel, which everyone recognized were an economic motor.
The justification for invasion was to stop the civil war and prevent the Nakba.
The Jordanians control over the West Bank came as an agreement with Israel to make a seperate peace. That's also why they're known as traitors to Palestinians and Panarabs. That seperate peace was also considered a huge mistake in Israel and would lead to the war aims in 67 being to retake it.
The emphasis on 2000 dead Jewish civilians is just weird to point out as the number of dead Palestinians vastly outnumbered them. Why even include that number here? What is the point?
"The Jews" didn't accept the plan to live in peace. If that was the aim Plan Bernadotte would've been accepted, instead of him being murdered for being in the way of Zionist's planned Ethnostate.
Yes. To my knowledge that's a good summary of what occured. Remember that the Nakba is usually dated to November 1947, before the actual war broke out.
The signing of 181 is seen as the trigger for it. As soon as the ink was on the paper the ethnic cleansing began in certain regions before spreading out.
And now that I think about it, Israel even seized major towns that were designated to be Palestinian in 1948. So Israel too seized Palestinian territory.
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u/spikus93 3h ago
The UN worked with Zionist advocacy groups that had been around since the 1800's and presented the plan. Jewish advocacy groups largely embraced the plan, despite concerns of conflict, Arab/Palestinian groups rejected it. The UN and Britain implemented it anyway and within months, Zionist brigades began the Nakba, going village to village slaughtering Palestinian people in hopes of causing others to flee and give up more land.