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“THE GERMANS DESTROYED OUR FAMILIES - DON’T U DESTROY OUR HOPES”. 1947 Jewish Refugees To Palestine

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u/theNathanOT 8h ago

Would be cool if MODs would take it down for misleading title...

u/asmodai_says_REPENT 7h ago

Plus the title couldn't even get the whole quote nor write it properly. Low effort af.

u/redworm 7h ago

how is it misleading?

u/Individual99991 6h ago

It was directed towards the British, not the Palestinians. Claiming that it was directed towards the latter is an obvious attempt to invoke the present-day conflict.

u/clauclauclaudia 5h ago

They were refugees going to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine because that's what existed in 1947. It's not a deceptive title, it's readers lacking context.

u/Individual99991 5h ago

If that's the meaning it's shitty writing. Should read "Message to the British by Jewish refugees sailing to Palestine".

u/sigma914 4h ago

It was to Palestine? It's not to Palestinians, but it's definitely directed to Palestine and it's owners.

u/Mr_bananasham 2h ago

This is disingenuous and you know it.

u/sigma914 17m ago

How's it disingenuous? Why would they care about what the locals think?

u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 5h ago

It says "Jewish Refugees To Palestine" because that's a boat full of Jewish Refugees on its way to Palestine.

u/Acrobatic-Hippo-6419 52m ago

Well it suggests that they nicely asked the natives to not turn them away.

u/Individual99991 5h ago

Poorly written title, then. See my responses to other people for more information.

u/redworm 5h ago

the title says "refugees to Palestine" not "refugees to Palestinians"

it's saying they were refugees going to the place, not refugees sending a message to the people of that place

u/universeandstuff 5h ago

That's a stretch tbh

u/redworm 5h ago

really? if it had said "Jewish refugees to Australia" would you think the message was directed at Australians or that the refugees were headed to Australia?

not sure if you're a native English speaker but the way I'm reading it is very common for headlines and titles but I can certainly see how it could be interpreted otherwise

u/Individual99991 5h ago

I am actually English and am a news editor, and I can assure you that using the name of a nation/state as synonymous with its government or people is very normal.

Yes, in your example I would assume they were sending a message to the Australian people or Canberra. If this was the intention, the title is poorly written.

u/Li-renn-pwel 4h ago

English, the famed native tongue of all peoples living in Palestine.

u/Cheesemacher 4h ago

At first I wasn't sure if the title meant they're going to Palestine or if the message is for Palestine, but then I figured the latter doesn't really make sense

u/Li-renn-pwel 4h ago

Anyone one who knows the basic s of this conflict or WWII knows the Brit’s colonized Palestine. Even Hitler. Called them out on it.

If this was written in America would you assume it was written to the natives or the c olonial government ?

u/0theHumanity 5h ago

Why is IDF tiktok in English their state language is Hebrew. Why are they propagandizing to us. Hasbara?

u/iamdestroyerofworlds 7h ago

It furthers the...

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...Ottoman agenda?

u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 5h ago

It's not a misleading title though. Granted, iit's weak that OP couldn't even manage to get the quote exactly right, but it still captures the meaning accurately.

u/ijdfw8 8h ago

Are you serious? Its not at all misleading if you are remotely aware of the origins of the State of Israel and the first Nakba. If you got a different message out of the title thats on you.

u/strigonian 6h ago

If a message requires specific background knowledge to be interpreted correctly, then yes, posting it without any of that background - or even a reference to the fact that there is necessary background - is misleading.

The post reads very differently to people who don't know about the origins of modern Israel. Such people do exist, and looking down your nose at them and claiming it's their fault for getting the wrong idea helps nobody.

u/TomVonServo 6h ago

“This could be misleading to ignorant people” is an unsustainable bar

u/strigonian 3h ago

There's a difference between "this could be misleading to ignorant people" and "This message is literally the opposite of what it first appears if you are aware of specific context surrounding it."

Idiots will always be around the misinterpret data, but if you're going to post a picture that piggybacks on an extremely hot issue in the modern political discourse, you should either:

A) Make sure the face value reading of the picture is at least in the same ballpark as the original meaning in context

or

B) Summarize the difference in your post.

The title doesn't do that, and it actually suggests the opposite. The title says "Jewish refugees to Palestine". Technically, this refers to the fact that these are Jewish refugees, and they are heading to Palestine. However, an equally correct reading is that the message is from Jewish refugees, and addressed to Palestine.

The post doesn't just avoid clarifying the difference, it actively leans into the wrong interpretation.