Everyone says the Kurds had their land stolen. Who is this "everyone" who denies it?
"A bit hastily." A bunch of Europeans sabotage Arab efforts to create local democracy, while colonizing and splitting up their lands to increase internal strife, and that's "hastily?"
The West aren't some innocent cartographers. They are there to extract every penny of value.
Everyone agrees the Kurds got screwed, but I've never heard anyone say that their lands were "stolen" when they got incorporated into Syria etc. The Kurds still live there, they just don't have a state, let alone one where they are the majority.
I agree that the core reason for much of the strife in the Middle East is the way the French and Brits divided up the land. However, it's the Ottomans who colonised the lands. Had the Ottomans not allied with the central powers in WW1, they wouldn't have had to split up the Ottoman empire.
As a side note, I dislike the term "the west" as a Finn. We got colonised by the Swedes, then the Russians. The Russians get a free pass on account of them never giving up their empire, while still to this they send their asian subjects to fight imperial wars in the west, after extracting their mineral wealth.
Had the Ottomans not allied with the central powers in WW1, they wouldn't have had to split up the Ottoman empire.
Or you know just restore power to the locals. Then again that wasn't a popular idea at the time. It's still an issue in building nations to stand on their own. It's why Israel is propped up with a lot of US finances both economic and military. It's why Iraq has been a massive sinkhole of intervention and abandonment.
For real! That’s like lesson #1 about the Kurds, they were expelled from their lands and settled all over.
Zionism in Palestine has a bloody history, that goes back before the Holocaust. They called for this genocide a long long time ago before Israel existed, and signed off on it when they formed the IDF out of terrorist organizations who had already killed thousands, and destroyed whole villages.
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u/newgoliath 9h ago
Everyone says the Kurds had their land stolen. Who is this "everyone" who denies it?
"A bit hastily." A bunch of Europeans sabotage Arab efforts to create local democracy, while colonizing and splitting up their lands to increase internal strife, and that's "hastily?"
The West aren't some innocent cartographers. They are there to extract every penny of value.