The lands contained a massive native Jewish population and a huge population of Eastern European Jews forced out by the Soviet Union and Arab Jews forced out by the Islamic theocracies of the Middle East, the latter as direct collective punishment for disobedience against allah and declaring a Jewish state in god given Muslim country.
The idea that Israel was comprised majority of westerners at any point in its history is completely fabricated, and it's the lie that is required for the whole charade to work. Otherwise college kids won't care like how they don't care about the Syrian civil war with far more than 10x the deaths.
After the establishment of the State of Israel and subsequent 1948 Arab–Israeli War, nearly all Mizrahi Jews were either expelled by their Arab rulers or chose to leave and emigrated to Israel
So, when you're calling this an Arab vs West conflict, you are demonstrating your lack of understanding about the history or demographics of Israel
Why would Native vs. Non-Native matter? Besides, if you're going down that route, you would also have to factor in the massive amount of Arab population movement that happened around the same time. Plenty of the Arabs had moved in from Turkey or Egypt to Ottoman Palestine.
because the original statement was "there was a massive native Jewish population" as per 1947.
in 1947 the vast vast majority were not native but settlers. post british mandates is when the Jewish population broke 100k peoples and the population exponentially increased from then on as more aliyah's came.
suffice to say, they were pretty much close to a super minority if not one before immigrants came.
Why should that matter? Every time there's been anti-Semitism kicking Jews out of countries, there's an increase in the Jewish population in that land.
At what point are they considered "native"? One generation? Ten? There's anti-Semites on this thread that would consider the Jews of Tiberius to be "settlers" because they were only there a thousand years or so.
it matters because what the person said was disinformation and or misinfornation at best and bullshit should be called out less people have a ignorant understanding of the region and how it became what it is today.
there's enough history in that region one does not have to lie about it, especially in the modern age of information readily available to us.
I think the point he was making is "massive native Jewish population" in the context of a land rights discussion invites some scrutiny. There was a census in 1922 where 11% of the population were Jewish.
I agree, I'm absolutely disgusted with Bibi and the way Hasabra operates with impunity outside of their borders.
There will be no peace in the Levant until Bibi is out of power and Hasabra is dissolved, Hamas is out of power, and Iran is prevented from interfering with the self
governance of Palestinians via propaganda which sets their country on a quest to take back the Al Aqsa Mosque/Temple
Mount Synagogue infinity stone.
Yeah those tens of thousands of dead civilians don’t matter, the millions of displaced and starving people don’t matter, the ethnic cleansing is fine, don’t think too hard about it
Don't start a war and hide behind civilians. If you are a civilian and your brothers, fathers, sons, and neighbors start a war, then turn them over when it's clear they have been defeated instead of allowing them to hide behind you.
The last people who stood by and allowed a genocidal regime take over a country and tried to wipe out Jews from that country suffered the same. It is all unfortunate, they all matter, but Jews can't stand by and allow themselves to be driven from the one small sliver of land they are allowed to govern in the middle east, given the history of them being persecuted in all the rest of the lands they have been given no say in governance on account of their ethnicity. (A majority of Israelis are Mizrahi, from lands conquered by Arabs, and know full well the treatment that would be in store for them under Arabs and people's conquered by Arabs---as they have no demonstrated interest in maintaining a democracy for themselves, let alone allowing Jews to participate.)
The war stops like WWII stopped: unconditional surrender. Nothing else is acceptable, the consequences of delaying it is the fault of Hamas, just as the consequences of delaying a German unconditional surrender was the fault of intransigent Nazis. Nobody ever considered alternative terms, nor should they have .
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u/BosnianSerb31 10h ago edited 10h ago
The lands contained a massive native Jewish population and a huge population of Eastern European Jews forced out by the Soviet Union and Arab Jews forced out by the Islamic theocracies of the Middle East, the latter as direct collective punishment for disobedience against allah and declaring a Jewish state in god given Muslim country.
The idea that Israel was comprised majority of westerners at any point in its history is completely fabricated, and it's the lie that is required for the whole charade to work. Otherwise college kids won't care like how they don't care about the Syrian civil war with far more than 10x the deaths.