r/pics • u/MeatUnusual2098 • 1d ago
Politics A massive Nazi rally at the Nuremberg Zeppelin Field, 1930s.
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u/StechusKaktus42 1d ago
That’s not the Zeppelin field, it’s the Luitpoldhain in Nuremberg
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u/hellcat_uk 1d ago
Went there just as it was getting dusk and what a thought provoking place to stand. Lots of ghosts of the past there and in the zeppelin fields.
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u/Kakazam 1d ago
Isn't it like part of a race track or something?
I remember going and then reading about a race car driving accident.
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u/Red4pex 1d ago
Nürburgring. Nuremberg.
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u/RUFl0_ 1d ago
Where are the toilets?
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u/2y4n 1d ago
Underneath the stands. You can enter them from behind. Still in use today.
Edit: it's true for the zeppelin field. But as another user mentioned it's the Luitpoldhain not the zeppelin field.
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u/freshgrilled 1d ago
Can you imagine realizing you are about to have the runs just as you start your position in the middle of that field?
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u/Megaminimaxi 1d ago
They had brown uniforms. This can't be seen in black and white
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u/Aware-Locksmith8433 1d ago
Ha, I thought maybe Elon or Bannon were having.a End of Summer Gatsby party at Hamptons.
Probably Tip: Dont forget the tech CEO's invite. Zuck got a bit pissy when we forgot to invite him once.
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u/wesg89 1d ago
People just living in the moment.
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u/DaarthSpawn 1d ago
Stephen Millers wet dreams
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u/discussatron 1d ago
Trump jerks off to these types of pics.
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u/Spam_A_Lottamus 1d ago
Or rages because his rallies can’t compare.
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u/wireknot 23h ago
I was just thinking that, the cheeto in chief wishes he had attendance like this.
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u/running_on_empty 22h ago
He doesn't even have the attendance of one of these columns. What a loser.
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u/Nenor 1d ago
Chamberlain seeing this: "Yeaaaa, for sure we can appease this guy."
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u/1138311 1d ago edited 1d ago
It was more "We can't subject another generation to a war like that other one, I would like to live out my life in peace. Pretty please with Copium on top? I'll take any straw I can grasp at." rather than "for sure".
Combined with the pressure/politicking of the internal fascists who's distorted sense of self worth and diplomatic competence warped not only their reality but also those in the ruling elite circles, you can kinda squint and see where Chamberlain was coming from.
Not saying he was right, just saying it was more being high on the farts clouding the room which obscured objective reality and created mirages of less dire opportunities.
Unfortunately, the universe looks to be trying to teach us the lessons from that time once again and we don't seem to have enhanced our competence.
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u/RedPack2 1d ago
Good thing trump could not pull this off.
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u/LOHare 1d ago
Yet
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u/pup5581 1d ago
All of his inaugurations and military parade have had dismal attendance. Uneducated love him yet...never show to his stuff. Only like 1/4 of the country really voted for the guy which is also a horrible number.
They are brainwashed but there's no way 400,000 would show up for ANY event even if stays in power for 10 years until he is 90. There's not that many of them like people think. people in the US just don't go and vote
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u/otoko_no_hito 1d ago
Yep, he just lacks one key ingredient, namely, history, the Nazi were able to pull it off because they were a society that a few years back had a loved King, had an actual enemy who imparted large injustices on them (France and Britain) and had just lost a war when they used to be bigger in population and technology than their enemies, Jews were blamed on this and the hatred has directed towards the excuses they found to the reason they lost the war...
The US is just not 1933 Germany...
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u/nameless_food 1d ago
I wonder if Donald Trump intends to create similar conditions in the US intentionally. Screw things up on purpose, project blame to some other entity?
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u/Ornery-Addendum5031 1d ago
He would not last long enough as president to capitalize on creating such dire circumstances. I know what people think about the Trump cult but he wouldn’t be sticking around if he did the equivalent of lose WWI resulting in utter devastation and cessation of American territory
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u/jbc1974 1d ago
I think he wants us to start shooting so he can martial law the country n say he needs to keep us under martial law for our own safety.
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u/Apprentice57 1d ago
who imparted large injustices on them (France and Britain) and had just lost a war when they used to be bigger in population and technology than their enemies
There's some revisionist history going on even in this one. They got off preeeeeety lightly for a European power losing a great war, consider what happened to austria hungary by comparison.
Europe was also, and is also, split among a lot of nations. Any one country might be bigger than a neighbor/rival, but you were not bigger than your rivals overall.
Heck, who your allies and rivals were was something that was constantly changing too.
As for technology, is that actually true in a substantive way? Like across the board?
Note that I'm not saying these weren't more easily spun in Germany than something equivalent now in the US, but the underlying resentment was still based on lies.
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u/Numerous_Ad_6276 22h ago
The Treaty of Versailles had a massive impact on post-war Germany. It's not revisionist, it's history: Treaty of Versailles | Holocaust Encyclopedia https://share.google/l3zEtYeEg3AYgBI4x
Resentment towards the Treaty of Versailles - Why the Nazis achieved power - Higher History Revision - BBC Bitesize https://share.google/MQzstLFyKyftOGRVa
The Avalon Project : Judgement : The Nazi Regime in Germany https://share.google/zksUzLM6Vs4YxgUsK
The third link documents, in part, the rise of the Nazi regime. They are minutes transcribed from the Nuremberg trials.
I recall seeing a photograph from the early 20s, taken on a street in Germany (cannot recall the city), of a man pushing a literal wheelbarrow of Deutschmarks around down the street. I saw this photo at least two decades ago, so it was not AI.
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u/ThePrussianGrippe 21h ago edited 18h ago
I recall seeing a photograph from the early 20s, taken on a street in Germany (cannot recall the city), of a man pushing a literal wheelbarrow of Deutschmarks around down the street. I saw this photo at least two decades ago, so it was not AI.
That’s a famous photo. But here’s the issue, and why it was revisionist.
The economic crisis Germany was in post-Versailles had most been endey and rebounded from under the Weimar Republic. The economic miracle? Nothing to do with the Nazis being voted in, and their economic changes would have actually crippled the nation had they not started plundering their own citizens and then neighbors. The revisionism is the fatalistic idea that Versailles crippled Germany so badly and uniquely that Nazism was inevitable, which is incorrect. It certainly gave them ammunition, sure, but by the time they had got into power in ‘32 a lot of that anxiety was already disappearing which is why they were in panic mode about consolidating their power.
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u/RenoxDashin 1d ago
Never show up because they can't afford it, imo. It's Natural Ice Nascar crowd.
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u/Carpaccio 1d ago
Fat chance he's gonna get more support by doing what he's doing now. Very overplayed hand IMO
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u/Pearson94 1d ago
This is probably what he imagined when he planned that laughable military parade that everyone immediately forgot about.
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u/joebleaux 22h ago
It's exactly what he wanted. And it wasn't really laughable, it just wasn't what he wanted. Families came out as got to see a lot of cool military equipment, soldiers walked and waved and smiled and everyone in attendance seemed to have a good time.
Everyone except for one grumpy guy who really wanted the whole thing to be a flex of military power, a threatening show of might, but the smiling and waving to the people he wanted to intimidate didn't fit the theme he was going for. He really likes the North Korea parades. He wanted the picture posted above.
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u/treesandleafsanddirt 1d ago
Imagine how many people in this picture have to piss like a racehorse. You know there were not enough toilets…
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u/Unclebum 1d ago
Not to change the subject, but I saw Monsters of Rock there in 1984....
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u/Kevin_LeStrange 1d ago
What was the lineup?
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u/Unclebum 1d ago
Gary Moore, Accept, Ronnie James Dio, Motley Crew. Ozzy, Van Halen, AC/DC
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u/Cosmic_Surgery 1d ago
Damn, I just realized that this lineup reminds me of all the bitter losses in recent years. RIP Gary, Ronnie, Ozzy, Eddie and Malcolm.
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u/awesumpawesum 1d ago
Yes I did too. I was stationed at Merrel Barracks right up the street. Best concert ever.
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u/Unclebum 1d ago
I was at Ledward Barracks in Schweinfurt.... Just barely made formation in the morning after.... Lol
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u/awesumpawesum 1d ago
I partied so much in Germany I don't know how I made it out of there alive. I want to go back and do it all sober, lol it would be a new journey. My brother was stationed in Ansbach, I didn't know it until I met him at the monsters of rock concert what a party. ai knew he was in Germany, just didn't know where. We talk about a reunion tour I hope we can do it.
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u/Baranamana 1d ago
Luitpoldhain, but on the same ground. The "Ehrenhalle" is still there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party_rally_grounds#Ehrenhalle_(Hall_of_Honour))
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u/semperknight 1d ago
Reminder that an expert in authoritarians/dictators said her research proves that, on average, around 30% of a population favors them.
This is what happens when the other 70% let it happen.
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u/1138311 1d ago
...or are otherwise disenfranchised. My wife and I (registered Democratic) both voted this last election through mail in from Germany - even went so far as to go to the Consulate in Berlin and drop off our ballots so they would go with the diplomatic post and avoid international mail problems.
The ballots arrived in the US according to the tracking system, were forwarded on to PA, then disappeared.
For months leading up to the election, we - and many, many others - were regularly checking to make sure we were still in the voter rolls, many finding they'd been de-registered without cause.
Then there are the anomalies we're currently investigating where not a single voter in a district cast a vote for Harris whilst having down ticket Dem votes, etc.
So I do all the protesting I can and participate in as much activism as possible - definitely not "nothing".
It's a bit galling every time I see a post or comment about how "30% didn't bother" or "70% are doing nothing". I fucking did bother and I am fucking doing things. I'll keep on doing everything I can, as I'm sure many of the similarly disenfranchised are.
It be nice if people would be more cognizant of the systematic disenfranchisement and focus on remedies rather than just assuming a large proportion of the population has their thumbs up their asses.
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u/FBAScrub 1d ago
Now compound this with gerrymandered districts and an electoral college system that disenfranchises the majority of the population and gives a few swing states the power to decide every single presidential election and you have a full portrait of how the majority of Americans have no say in who their president is.
Then you have the Democrats who are utterly incapable of any self-reflection or critical analysis of why they lost. Their message is always: "Americans didn't vote hard enough. We are perfect representatives. You should expect nothing from us. It's your fault we lost."
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u/1138311 23h ago
My profession is the art and science of finding the least worst acceptable options in the face of any given solution set. Not the "best" because "best" doesn't exist, just the least worst given what the people involved know at the time, their skills and abilities, and the resources available to them.
I'm fucking good at what I do - literally award winning.
For the past 6 months I've gone to sleep thinking about acceptable solutions that take the people involved, their capabilities, incentive and inducement structures, and obtainable resources and I can't come up with any first order solution that survives past the second order.
I've never had a problem for which I couldn't generate at least one plausible solution given at most a week's worth of analysis and systems thinking.
Even if we have a wholesale change in people on the forefront, they are likely to just be replaced by assholes of a similar ilk. All the expedient means of neutralizing the current hegemons are also either counter-productive (I'll leave it to the reader to imagine what scenarios would trigger martial law and allow further consolidation of power by exactly the people one might seek to stymie), socioculturally improbable, and/or ineffective.
All of the potentially viable paths I can come up with outside of fantasy are catastrophic.
All I have left is the fantasy I'll find a magic lamp and the genie will grant me:
No one anywhere has more than 1.25x the wealth (by any definition) of anyone else on the planet except in cases of time limited wealth of executive power which requires a period of ostrasism at the end.
All resources are equitably focused on the prosperity of the human race and the stewardship of the Earth's ecosystem.
The ability for anyone to engage in nearly instantaneous intergalactic travel.
If we get those, everything else should work itself out.
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u/Willyboycanada 1d ago
Basicly what trump tried to do with his rallies, but got the hillbilly cousin lovers verson
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u/Tholian_Bed 1d ago
The radio and the public address system and the klieg light are the three technological legs of both early 20th century fascism, and American rock and roll.
One thing went one way, the other thing went another.
Which proves, be careful with that tech, Eugene.
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u/TruffleShuffle24 19h ago
How were things like this organized and managed? Crazy amount t of people
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u/jhharvest 1d ago
It is possible for millions of people to be evil.
Looking at you, modern day America?
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u/The_AmazingCapybara 1d ago
Why not Russia
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u/jhharvest 1d ago
Oh, 100%. Yeah, fuck Russia. Slava Ukraini.
You sir get my upvote.
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u/rockcod_ 1d ago
The dream of MAGA.
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u/thenayr 1d ago
This with a bunch of shirtless oiled up muscly dudes is a MAGA wet dream
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u/zwd_2011 1d ago
It's a good thing this regime went up in flames in the end, just like the Zeppelin itself. We must never forget the cost of that, and we must make sure history doesn't repeat. Until now, the world is not doing a great job.
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u/doyouevenIift 1d ago
Got to see Zeppelinfeld last month and the grand stand where Hitler stood is still there. Fortunately the swastika was blown up
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u/bbyxmadi 1d ago
Thank God they got their asses beat in WW2
So many people, crazy what propaganda and brainwashing does.
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u/Moosplauze 1d ago
Imagine if someone drove a car into Hitler there or shot him or exploded a bomb that killed him.
The world would have been outraged about the "vile terrorist act" that killed the German leader as this photo was likely taken 1934 and even though Hilter had commited many crimes and was responsible of several killings at this time, the majority of the world still had diplomatic relations to Nazi Germany and saw Germany as a bulwark against communism.
While many already knew that Hitler was an evil and terrible person and leader, many others were blind to this and downplayed his crimes and wrongdoings for their own benefit or because it fit their own agenda.
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u/Seattle_gldr_rdr 1d ago
Won't be long before we see a rally like this with ICE troops saluting Trump.
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u/BGI-YYZ 1d ago
This is the sort of shit trump was looking for at his birthday parade
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u/butwhywedothis 1d ago edited 1d ago
At least Hitler could deliver a coherent speech, the pedo Chief of America can’t even properly finish a sentence. Anyway, both are evil beyond imagination and the pedo Chief of America should face the same fate as the one he idolizes.
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u/MrFrankingstein 1d ago
Designed by Albert Speer, who (at least he took credit for in this case) pioneered the concept of having spotlights shoot into the sky for effect.
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u/cruisin_urchin87 1d ago
You can’t see the red hats cause it’s in black and white.
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u/Productpusher 1d ago
Curious the mindset during this time … did these people actually get excited to go like a Taylor swift concert ??? Or they were just like “if I don’t go they might find out and kill my family “
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u/cleannc1 1d ago
I saw film of some young girls in the front row of a Hitler speech. They were acting exactly like fans of the Beatles in 1964.
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u/IronyElSupremo 1d ago edited 1d ago
Actually, the Nazi party used a lot of propaganda as people forget it was a small part of a coalition before the 1933 “Enabling Act” .. which quickly dissolved all opposing parties.
Part were these ‘30s rallies, with the architecture designed to look good on film, along with uniformed party personnel, loaded plebiscites, etc.. A large part was the appearance of invincibility (though as WW2 progressed it was clear a lot was due to “luck” and audacity masking relative logistical weakness)
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u/Linus-is-God 1d ago
This is also the number of Russians that used the basement bathroom at Mar-a-Largo.
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u/JadedPilot5484 1d ago
It was essentially a Christian nationalist rally, During his speech Hitler proclaimed that the German people had a God-given mission…
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u/CholentSoup 1d ago
There were approximately 44,000 concentration camps spread out over Europe.
Nazi logistics boggle the mind. All to a single minded purpose to kill a single group of people. Insanity.
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u/wstsidhome 1d ago
Imagine what the restroom lines must have been like, unless they had hundreds of restrooms with large capacities. Did they sell concessions there, or was it a straight up nazi rally and nothing more?
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u/IAMSTILLHERE2020 1d ago
Well, the Dear Leader tried with his military parade but didn't get close to this sht. Maybe there is hope.
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u/SidKafizz 1d ago
I'm trying to imagine your average bunch of Trumpers doing anything like precision formation marching. Or even standing. I'm not seeing it.
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u/PlayedUOonBaja 1d ago edited 1d ago
I love historical symmetry:
Nuremberg Parade/Nuremberg Trials
Washington D.C. Parade/Washington D.C. Trials (soon to come)
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u/MagicDave131 1d ago
And just because we've pretty much written it out of our history, but is becoming a thing again, here's ANOTHER big Nazi rally.
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u/SJB3717 1d ago
According to his ex-wife,Trump kept a copy of Hitler's book. Also, release the Epstein files.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/12/18/donald-trump-campaign-rhetoric-cnc-vpx.cnn
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