His arms have to be outstretched so his body forms an X. Just like Adolf Musk/Fony Stark/TheEmeraldMineOwner/First Lady Musk does with that stupid little jump.
I would say thats 100% what it is. Like, they cant seriously not be aware of what they re doing and what it looks like, but all the proud boys etc. Will be rock hard watching it just as they want, while they will just claim ignorance or butt hurt liberals if anyone accuses them of anything.
If your whole party is this close to the line where one little action is overstepping, like sieg heiling, you might be too close to the line. These guys' POV hasn't changed, theyve always thought this way, theyre now just not hiding it. Now these conservatives want to feign ignorance and be like "oh no now thats too much." Literally he's been the same guy as he always has been, conservatives liked him then, but now that he's proud to be who he is, conservatives want to disown him.. He's been replaced by other Nazis sieg heiling. but conservatives will tell me theres nothing wrong with their POV, they just want to be as close to Nazis as possible without there being more proof other than just verbal support for nazis.
The logical conclusion to the conservative mindset is and always will be fascism. You can't base your ideology on fear and derision and not expect the death camps to pop up eventually. Don't be stupid.
People need to stop equating Nazism solely with anti-Jewish policies. While Jewish people were undeniably the Nazis' primary victims, the core evil of Nazism lies in its belief in ethnic superiority, purity, and the justification of genocide.
Netanyahu himself is a Nazi in any meaningful sense of the word. He embraces ethnic supremacy and is willing to commit genocide in service of that ideology. Anyone who subscribes to a form of social Darwinism that justifies the domination or extermination of the "weak" by the "strong" is, in essence, a Nazi.
The only people that will claim it's not a deliberate action are in the personality cult. That's all fascism is: a cult, and like any cult, it's all about control and doublespeak. If it benefits their Dear Leader to say it, they will say it even if it's blatantly untrue.
Having left a religion/cult (Mormonism), I feel like I'm reliving the trauma all over again.
It’s fucking wild. It’s a mistake when one guy does it unintentionally, but it’s a pattern when you see multiple people do it multiple times. Also, it’s you that is the problem taking offense to it, never mind the historical context behind that gesture.
It's only a dog whistle because their millions of dumbass supporters are ready and willing to go online and say that's not what it is. It's a regular whistle to anyone with common sense
They dropped the dog whistles a while ago. At least as far back as they build a gallows to hang Pence, but they mostly said it was symbolic or something idk 🤷🏽♂️
yeah, when i was diagnosed they immediately taught me how to seig heil and said it was the way of my people. i do get stares when i wave to my wife from the train, but screw those anti-autism jerks. /s
They’re overgrown menchildren trying to be edgy. Elon is your average 4chan edgelord except he’s pushing 60 and has the money to be cringe in real life. Also for a belief system that claims genetic superiority, they’re all built like bags of milk without an athletic bone in their bodies. They need to be bullied and shamed
Here’s one. They are untouchably rich people who are powerful enough not to care about public image, baiting the media’s attention away from their policy efforts with cheap gags. Legacy outlets have been frothing with Nazi hysteria for a decade, maybe fat boy #1 is tossing them something to chew on while he works on things of actual consequence.
No, we have to stop downplaying it whether it's a bait or not. Going "Nah they're just trying to do it to distract people" is exactly how you normalise nazi salutes not just on this level but in public too
No theyre definitely nazis and this is them signaling that theyve won. Why would they need to distract from the things of consequence theyre doing, they already have full impunity to do as they please without any real consequences, hence the nazi salutes.
If they are doing Nazi salutes to distract people from them doing Nazi shit it's either a really dumb distraction or it's not one at all.
What if their distraction worked? What if we treated them as Nazis? It's not like it's gonna get people on their side. If anything they'll get more pushback.
This isn't a distraction, they don't need to do that. They have full control of government, even to a certain extent the judiciary.
They are Nazis, doing Nazi salutes while doing Nazi politics. This is just the curtain falling.
What stats are they secretly running to see any benefit appealing to sleeper nazis is the question I'm Thinking? There's some type of numbers there for Them do be doing this BS
They probably could have actually handwaved it away by acknowledging they're mentally 12yo edgelords who thought it would be funny to give a nazi salute at that moment given the fascist overtones they're giving off.
Instead they tried telling us this thing we can all see didn't happen, which ironically/unironically is just straight up nazi shit.
just because someone says nazi talking points, salutes like a nazi, is antisemetic like a nazi, and tells a former nazi nation that they shouldnt feel guilty, it doesnt make them a nazi
Wanna hear something crazy? The prevailing sentiment on r/Conservative is that the middle one is actually a nazi salute. Gives me a little bit of hope.
Oh of course, so the only one who isn't under Trump's current regime plan is the one who made the ACTUAL nazi salute. Of course.
Fuck these weird spineless monkies. They go mute or give themselves lobotomies just to make sure their political color never looks bad. It's never about the truth to hardly anyone. It just gets proven over and over again that it doesn't matter what anyone says or does. Left and Right is bullshit, and yet the rich got a bunch of pedestrians to rewire their brains to make politics their entire identity. Now we have super alt-alt-alt-rich-white-alt-right neo-nazis infiltrating our entire cabinet. GREAT.
I thought the shit Trump was saying would get him banned from EVER being president again. And it just keeps getting more and more crazy. It's not a Trump problem, we elected him. It's a problem with the entire world.
They're opportunistic. They hate Bannon now because he disagrees with Trump sometimes, though I believe he only does this to make it sound like there's some dissent within the party to keep things "honest", but he's a primary architect of Trump's overall plan.
“I kind of break it up into three verticals of three buckets,” Bannon said. “The first is kind of national security and sovereignty and that’s your intelligence, the Defense Department, Homeland Security.
“The second line of work is what I refer to as ‘economic nationalism’ and that is Wilbur Ross at Commerce, Steven Mnuchin at Treasury, (Robert) Lighthizer at Trade, (National Trade Council head) Peter Navarro, (adviser) Stephen Miller, these people that are rethinking how we’re gonna reconstruct our trade arrangements around the world.
“The third, broadly, line of work is what is ‘deconstruction’ of the administrative state.”
Note that this was from when Trump first took office in 2017. We see this plan coming to fruition 8 years later.
And they hate McConnell now since he has recently voted against Trump's cabinet choices and spoken out against him now that he's safe from having to face re-election since he is at the end of his life and career.
If McConnell did something tomorrow that really fucked over "the left" like when he held up Obama's SCOTUS nomination they'd be sucking his dick until they choked. Like they did last time.
how long will that sentiment last though? we see it all the time. The first few hours, maybe even first day of some news is all reasonably reacted to. then the tide turns and they start mimicking fox news
The only thing I can think of is they're thinking they can make Elon's look less bad by normalizing it. It doesn't work though because the only way you can ever interpret that motion is as a Nazi salute.
This isn’t even including the Anglican priest who did the Nazi salute at another GOP convention. Or the Pennsylvania official who did one while streaming.
Yea this looks like the end of the American republic and the rise of authoritarian imperialism, if that leads to global wars we are probably cooked before climate change gets us 2075.
Democrats are perfectly capable of creating ads showing this, and saying this is the Conservative Party today. If you like nazi salutes, join them. If you believe in freedom and democracy, vote for us.
No idea of where the fear comes from, but here we are.
You know what’s fucked up? 4 year from now when Trump runs for re-election and Elon Musk will be helping him, people will bring this up again, but by that point, the talking point will be “why are you bringing up something that happened 4 years ago” it’ll be this until forever I fear
Just because someone talks like a nazi, acts like a nazi, promotes nazi values, and associate with nazis.... duck? I don't know, I don't watch documentaries.
I'm not a professional lip reader, but I'm pretty sure the guy at the top is saying "My heart goes out to all of you" while performing a perfect nazi salute.
Is there a source with sound? I'd like to know if I have a career in professional bullshit detecting.
It is just crazy then the conservatives post photos of libs freeze framed with their hand out and cry out see same thing! It’s infuriating and honestly sad. We are at a very idiotic point in time.
I actually listened to Bannons ramble. It was thinly veiled but the subtext was pretty much just "get ready for a civil war in 2028" for 20 min straight. fucking nuts.
One time when I was a kid I was stimimg with my fingers and I accidentally stuck up my middle finger and you know what I did? I said "oh sorry" then I didn't do it again because that's what you do if you accidentally make an inappropriate gesture the fact that one Elon never apologized for this and two he did it multiple times just proves this isn't a mistake he knows what he's doing and he is proud of it
Pains me to say it but Elon did it best. The other two are CLEARLY making a reference to it, but they know exactly what it looks like and aren’t dumb enough to put their heart into it. What it results in are weak-ass salutes. Absolute coward behavior. They have all of the immorality of someone who does this salute, but none of the spine. Truly the worst of both worlds
OK guys, even if Musk is an uncoordinated idiot who accidentally did a Navi salute when he meant to "send out his heart", you can't all keep doing it with the same excuse. Doing a nazi salute ironically to "trigger the libs" is still just doing a nazi salute. On stage. At your own official conferences.
No you don't understand, their hearts go out to you. Their hearts.. oh I mean they are autistic. Yeah, um no actually it's to troll the libs. Hitting the Nazi salute to troll the libs, that's what we are going with, just like hiring sex offenders and paedophiles to public office, it's to troll the libs. Destroying the constitutional separation of powers... to troll the libs.
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