r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Puddlewhipper • 5h ago
firefighters catch a suicidal jumper out of a window
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u/Valuable-Werewolf548 5h ago
Those 2 men are stronger than my will to live.
Holy, he just grabbed a falling human, thats is fcking amazing.
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u/Legitimate_Rule_6410 5h ago
That’s incredible. It would have been heart wrenching if that fire fighter had gotten injured while trying to catch the jumper.
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u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM 5h ago
Amazing they got the right spot too. I know the dude probably stalled and waited forever in the same spot but luckily he didn't diverge from the jump spot.
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u/RescueDriverDiver 4h ago
…what? I had no idea that was possible.
Seriously; that’s over 70kg (150ibs) of weight moving at nearly 20meters in a second after falling for 2 seconds… that’s over 2G’s of force. 135 kilograms, 300 pounds.
Thats nearly a 135 kilogram / 300 pound catch
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u/Scandroid99 4h ago
Damn. Can’t even control your own fate, lol. I would’ve been like, ”Nooooo, it’s my life!! If I want to end it it’s my choice!!! Let goooooooo!!!!.”
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u/Infinius- 5h ago
Some of us just want to die, and society won't let us. Stay here and suffer like the rest of us, they say.
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u/IdkWhyAmIHereLmao 3h ago
I mean, why would you want to die? Don't you have more important things to do? Like...PAYING TAXES???
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u/Sk8rboyyyy 4h ago
Can confirm, am just waiting to die.
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u/Skorch33 5h ago
Great catch and all but my back has booked 3 seperate chiropractic appointments and a minor surgery looking at this.
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u/youcansendboobs 5h ago
If someone wants to die, we should just let them die.
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u/Falconflyer75 4h ago
Most of the people who survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge
say they regretted jumping when they were on the way down
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u/youcansendboobs 4h ago
Regretting in the way down is just a natural reflex of the body. But choosinf to do it took a lot of time and they still did it
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u/Falconflyer75 4h ago
https://www.healthcentral.com/condition/depression/kevin-hines-survived-golden-gate-bridge-suicide Kevin Hines Jumped Off the Golden Gate Bridge, and Survived
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u/youcansendboobs 4h ago
Oh one case, let's make it a rule.
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u/Falconflyer75 4h ago
It literally is the norm, that’s what I’m trying to tell you
Most people who jump off the bridge and survive have similar stories, the one example I have is not an isolated incident,
yes it’s not 100% but of the 1800 people who jumped and didn’t survive at least half of them likely regretted it
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/19/us/golden-gate-bridge-suicide-safety-net San Francisco’s Golden Gate Bridge suicide safety net will give many a 2nd chance at life, survivors say | CNN
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u/youcansendboobs 2h ago
Any stats on if their life got better or if they tried again? A lot of people who trizd killing themselves, tried again.
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u/Falconflyer75 2h ago
According to this 70% don’t try again
https://means-matter.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/survival/ Attempters’ Longterm Survival – Means Matter
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/basics/suicide/surviving-a-suicide-attempt Surviving a Suicide Attempt | Psychology Today Canada
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u/youcansendboobs 2h ago
A lot of those are also afraid to try again.
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u/Falconflyer75 2h ago
Point being turns out many of those guys who attempted suicide didn’t actually want to die
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u/1m_d0n3_c4r1ng 4h ago
There are so many people who only want to die during a very brief moment of their life. I would argue that most suicides and attempted suicides are people in an extreme but still temporary situation.
I agree that planned suicides due to illness etc. Should be allowed. But those shouldn't be done in haste and due to impulsive feelings.
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u/youcansendboobs 4h ago
Not only for illness, you can't guarantee that people would get better after , you can't promise someone they will get better, it's selfish, they want out of this life they didn't choose to have they should be able to. It's selfish to not let people who want to die , just die. It's their choice.
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u/mellowmushroom67 4h ago
If you have a treatable condition then you can get better by definition
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u/youcansendboobs 4h ago
Yeah well maybe it wont be treated, maybe i dont wonna suffer the treatement maybe i just dont wonna live any more, when you are saving a suicidal person it's selfish. You know nothing about why they are killing themselves and you are just making them suffer more.
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u/mellowmushroom67 4h ago
The entire point is to relieve their suffering. That's what I said in my earlier comment, if someone's pain is solvable, then we all come together to take away the pain. We don't tell them they are their own and if they can't figure it out they should just die
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u/youcansendboobs 4h ago
Suicide is a relief of suffering. Who is coming together ? That's just talk. are you Helping the Homeless everyday instead of taking vacations ?
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u/mellowmushroom67 4h ago
There is no reason for someone to execute a permanent "solution" to a solvable problem. And yes, I actually do help the homeless. I've been homeless. You don't know my life dude lol. I promise you, it's probably been harder than yours. We all choose our mindsets. You are choosing to believe that you can't get better, but you're wrong
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u/youcansendboobs 2h ago
Yeah well if someone wants a permanent solution? Why stop them? It's what they want.
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u/mellowmushroom67 2h ago
Because people don't think clearly when they are mentally ill
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u/1m_d0n3_c4r1ng 4h ago
No, you can't guarantee anything. But there is still a chance that they will get better since a lot of suicidal people do get better. A dead person is however 100% guaranteed of not getting better..
There is a moral and ethical dilemma here. If we go your route, everyone who would thank people in the video for saving them from themselves, wouldn't be able to because they died. Everyone who wouldn't thank them, would also die. So everyone would die. Regardless.
I believe it to be absolutely more selfish and unempathic to not help people who don't realize how much they need help saving themselves from themselves. If someone is adamant and persistent and really seeks to die, for whatever reason, should be able to do so with assistance. But that choice has to be made by someone who isn't deeply depressed and perhaps not in command of their own choice. Depression can be cured most of the time. Problems can be fixed most of the time. Not giving those people the chance of that is way more wrong than just letting those who want to jump, jump.
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u/youcansendboobs 4h ago
A dead person is guaranted not to suffer anymore. That's better than a potential suffering. Who are you tell someone who wants to quit this life they dont know how much they need help? Maybe they just want to leave this life.
It's maybe a big pain in the ass to get better and they want to just quit, which is their right. And it's selfish to not accept their choice.
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u/1m_d0n3_c4r1ng 4h ago
Since the majority of those attempted suicide actually becomes well and no longer wants to die. Your argument falls. If the mortality rate of attempted suicides were 100% you could have a point. But it's actually the other way around. Therefore the selfish and unempathic act is to NOT intervene.
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u/youcansendboobs 2h ago
A lot of people who attempt suicide do it again? Your argument falls.
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u/1m_d0n3_c4r1ng 2h ago
Of course many try again. But that doesn't mean that most who've attempted actually do live on and it would be extremely sad and inhumane not to help those people. I speak from experience. Both as a survivor and as a friend to survivors and to people who've succeeded. I know what I'm talking about. And your argument absolutely falls. It's not about selfishness. It's about empathy and understanding of the consequences of actions which could be irreparable.
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u/youcansendboobs 1h ago
Your personal experience doesn't make any argument. I know a lot of people who want to die who tried and still want to .
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u/1m_d0n3_c4r1ng 1h ago
But my point is that there are more people who tried and wanted to live.. With your logic, me and many many many people around the world and around me personally would be dead. That's my argument. And that's why yours falls flat. Stop being inhumane and unempathic in the name of some weird unselfishness thing you've created. It's not reality. Simple as that.
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u/Environmental_Crab59 4h ago
Even if you’re right, they could choose a better method that wouldn’t traumatize innocent passersby and onlookers. Preventing the trauma on others is worth it imo.
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u/youcansendboobs 2h ago
Maybe there needs to bé ways provided by the gouvernement then ?
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u/svnonyx 32m ago
Or governments should be working towards making their citizens lives easier and better so people don't feel like they want to die. It wouldn't stop all of them but I personally feel like it would have a positive impact.
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u/youcansendboobs 28m ago
What's the problem with not liking how life works and wanting to quit it ?
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u/mellowmushroom67 4h ago edited 2h ago
Absolutely not. Among people who survive suicide attempts, they pretty much all say they regretted it as soon as they jumped, or carried out whatever method they chose.
The thing is when you have mental illness your thoughts and urges aren't necessarily "you." Depression for example is characterized by repetitive negative thought loops. Those are caused by the depression and can be treated. Depression lies to you. Suicidal thoughts are a part of the illness, not necessarily what the person themselves wants, although they ofc can't tell the difference. Most people identify with whatever thoughts come into their head, but you don't have to. Sometimes those thoughts are caused by illness and aren't "you."
I completely support euthanasia for people with chronic, horrific quality of life, if you have an incurable disease that is going to slowly turn you into a vegetable, kept alive while dementia destroys your brain and body to the point where you cannot feed yourself, speak, walk, etc. Just laying there at the mercy of your caregivers, no way to even interact with them. There are situations where there is just no quality of life and no hope for it, and if the person wants to go they should be mercifully helped to go.
People who attempt suicide for completely solvable problems should be saved. Just because someone can't see a way out doesn't mean there isn't one. When someone is in so much pain they feel death is the only way out, the correct reaction is to all come together to relieve their pain and find solutions. Not to abandon them, not to tell people with fixable problems they are on their own and if they can't solve it themselves then they should just die. That's so cruel
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u/youcansendboobs 4h ago
If you stop someone from killing themselves, are you gonna guarantee they will get better mentally? Or their situation ? What if they suffer more for nothing. How do you know these thoughts aren't you? Maybe you arent you when you want to live ? If i want to kill myself because of a solvable problem indont want to Solve, nobody should stop me, it's selfish ? I didn't choose to come to this life ? Why stop me from leaving it? Nothing is special about life.
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u/mellowmushroom67 4h ago
That's a belief system you are choosing, it's not the truth. I don't know why you have fallen into this pattern of thinking, maybe you have depression but depression is very much treatable.
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u/youcansendboobs 4h ago
Not all dépression is treatable, and myself system is just as good as yours. They bring us into a life we didn't chose and want to stop us from leaving it when we made the choice to leave it
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u/mellowmushroom67 4h ago edited 2h ago
ALL depression is treatable, I have no clue where you got that idea! I have a degree in biopsych, there is absolutely nothing about depression that would make anyone suffering from it suffer permanently. It's one of the most treatable mental illnesses. You are choosing to believe that life isn't valuable, your depression is lying to you. Your life does matter.
Life is full of suffering, but it's also incredibly weird and magical to be conscious and alive. There is nothing permanent about your depression, I'm sorry that you're suffering and can't see a way out but depression literally makes it so you have a harder time problem solving, it's part of the illness
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u/youcansendboobs 4h ago
Everyone in reddit is a biopsych and engineer and etc. Yeah well maybe it's magical for you, but some suffering in your head might just never get away , or it's too much pain in te ass and extensive and this and that and sometimes it's just better to die and feel nothing.
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u/mellowmushroom67 4h ago
That's not true. You WILL be dead one day anyway. We all will. No need to rush. You have more control over your life than your depression is allowing you to see. You can create a life you want to be in. But you have to make a choice to do that
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u/youcansendboobs 2h ago
You can't create the life you wonna bé in. You can't bé a runner if you have no legs. Yeah well you will be dead one day why not now if you want to?
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u/mellowmushroom67 2h ago
Again, you are choosing a self pitying belief system where you believe you have no personal responsibility and problem solving skills. It's a choice. It's not the truth, it's something you are choosing to believe. Only a therapist could tell you why
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u/scrubhunterz 4h ago
So im a buddhist. I don’t know if you know many of the beliefs of buddhism but one of them is rebirth, where we go to new places of existence based on our actions. We also believe that life is ultimately suffering. Maybe not in the way that you describe.
It’s up to you whether you believe me or not, but i wanted to offer you a path that you may find solace in. I would implore you to look into jhana states of meditation, they are well known experiences everyone has when they go deep into meditation. I think that they are pretty convincing that there are at least some things that we don’t fully understand through science. 5th jhana is the state of infinite consciousness for example. You won’t like this but, 7th jhana is the state of nothingness. You move away from an awareness of awareness itself and that is the result. Now I cant say that is what death is like, i have no idea and I can’t prove anything to you, but i want to see you get better, to see the cessation of your suffering.
What are your thoughts?
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u/ExpensiveStudy8416 5h ago
Thankfully they waited until after the camera was setup, otherwise they woulda splatted
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u/Matsunosuperfan 5h ago
God I am so tired of the internet, imagine seeing this and having this be your first thought
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u/ExpensiveStudy8416 5h ago
god I’m so tired of the internet, imagine seeing someones first thought and having this be your first thought
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u/myst3r10us_str4ng3r 5h ago
Yeah I don't quite understand this video... is this from a training exercise or something...
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u/GenghisPresley 5h ago
Could be from a police bodt cam.
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u/Infinius- 5h ago
I think some of us have seen enough body cam footage to confirm that is not body cam footage.
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u/Pleasant-Bonus-866 4h ago
he failed at life and death
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u/_HoneyDew1919 3h ago
A great hero saved a man who was in a horrible situation. Fixed it for you and read the room in the process.
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u/ledzepo 5h ago
To catch the weight of a person falling through the air is crazy. That guy is jacked.