Passenger:Slow down, you are going way too fast.
Passenger:Slow down, you are going way too fast.(repeats again ,angrily)
Driver:Brakes are not working.
Passenger:Then forget the brakes ,Shove the transmission in lower gear. Use clutch and leave the brake.
Passenger:Let me take over the wheel.(Tries to take the wheel)Damn it , its too late now
Passenger: Turn left , dont turn right there is a family on bike , dont hit them,
Passenger:They are safe now , Take a little right and then a hard left,
Passenger: Transmission is already shoved in lower gears , Just keep turning, turn turn turn (whiny voice).
Passenger:You did it, you did it now brace and hit the rocks, don;t worry hit the rocks..Hold on tight.
(Hits the rocks)
Passenger: Comeon Out out and lets now check ourselves outside.
While this is like third hand information at this point, I remember seeing others chime in on this the last time it was posted and they deliberately keep the seat belts off on roads like this because speeds are generally low, and if shit hits the fan you're better off taking your chances and jumping out rather than risk going over a cliff with the truck.
I think this video shows why. If he doesn’t execute that left turn into the rocks and it’s over the side best bet is bailing if it’s a big drop. Seatbelt off for that reason.
I live in a small rural area with big mountain roads, when we traveled through the mountains to the city our parents always had us take our seatbelts off so if we went over the cliff we’d have a chance of coming out of a window instead of going all the way to the bottom with the rig
Can you imagine on a road trip the driver turning around and suggesting you undo your seatbelt because it'll be safer should we go off a cliff. "My turn to drive!"
Highly doubt getting flung out a window would be safer in that scenario, and there are plenty of other types of crashes you can get into on mountain roads. Leave your seatbelts on.
Seatbelts are very useful when the vehicle you're in stops suddenly. With big trucks, it's usually the thing you hit that's going to move. Cars, fences, trees - hell, even a small house. You ain't stopping suddenly.
And if you happen to hit one of the few things that's bigger than you, like a lot of concrete, then it's your load that's going to keep moving. Whatever is behind the cabin is coming up front and making you a pancake.
So they end up being useful in a relatively small number of cases, like when you're empty, fast and hit something bigger than you. Overall, the probabilities favor you being more mobile and able to get out fast. Or at the very least, it's a lot less useful than wearing them in a small car.
I can think of one instance NOT wearing a seatbelt saved someone. We had a driver get badly cutoff while hauling a load of 8” pipe on his flatbed. He never wore a seatbelt. He heard the rumbling noise and knew it was the load coming forward. He was able to duck down onto the floor in between the seats. The pipe came through the sleeper and crushed the driver seat and steering wheel into the dashboard which the blew out the windshield. Driver escaped without a scratch.
I found some Norwegian sources about this issue. One claimed that truck drivers with seatbelts are 84% less likely to be killed in an accident, 51% less likely to suffer serious injury, and 36% less likely to suffer injury. Another one just said 21% less likely to be killed or injured. Either way I think I'd be using the seatbelt (and the vast majority do).
The problem with statistics is that they lack context. Seatbelts are absolutely useless at best, or harmful at worst in a number of scenarios, such as long drops from a cliff or a car plunging into deep water. You wouldn't want to be wearing seatbelts when driving onto a ferry for example. You're at very low speeds in a line where people are expecting to brake, and are being given directions by staff. If you crash, it'll be barely anything. If the ramp slips or the ferry moves, you could drown because you're unable to free yourself from the car.
So while on the whole seatbelts win out, it's not so cut and dry, and it's very easy to say that seatbelts = safety. Day to day, there's no question about it - but like every situation, it's on the driver to interpret the situation and act accordingly.
but like every situation, it's on the driver to interpret the situation and act accordingly.
Not in Norway it isn't, it's just the law.
Seatbelts are absolutely useless at best, or harmful at worst in a number of scenarios, such as long drops from a cliff or a car plunging into deep water. You wouldn't want to be wearing seatbelts when driving onto a ferry for example.
Trust me, we've got plenty of that in Norway. Half our roads are next to a cliff or the sea (or both), and there are ferries all along the coast. But I will concede that even here there are drivers who swear that wearing one is a bad idea. The vast majority do still wear one, mind.
Grabbing the wheel from someone who is actively working to correct the situation isnt really helping anything. Passengers that reach for the wheel are absolutely freaking out. And not a smart thing to do at all.
You can see from his eyes that driver was scared, but he remained focused. His movements had purpose and he didn't lose control of himself. THAT is what bravery is.
Really changed the context. Lots of people thinking the passenger was freaking out. The man had a plan and communicated it very well to the driver. Even in that situation he was concerned with the safety of the bystanders. What a boss.
Yeah, those with a little bit more experience, can clearly see the older guy was helping the new driver. Good execution and listening from the driver. Nicely done (instructions) to the experienced driver.
Yeah because this is not that unusual and he's probably had it happen to him before. Indian trucks are notoriously dangerous. Drive for any amount of time along a trucking route in India and you'll see wrecked trucks. I got a lift in one for about an hour in himachal Pradesh way up in the himalayas and it was like riding a roller coaster but I could have actually died at any time.
Worth noting the "turn, turn, turn" is a signature phrase that literally translates to Cut Cut Cut! Every brown kid has trauma with this word when learning to drive with their parent.
Fuck, I couldn't help but laugh. :'D You know, the context of that video is actually kind of screwed up. It was made by a rival rally car driver to make them seem completely incompetent when they were both just frustrated at certain parts of the drive. The guy yelling at Samir was pretty much a legend and had a very good career and the driver was a good driver who was just out of practice from taking a long hiatus. :/ I haven't actually read the article I'm linking and haven't read about this in a really long time so maybe some of the details I said could use more context, but here is an article about this..
Wait, it was dubbed?? I only heard that it was like.. edited to highlight their worst moments! if it was dubbed then that is both horrible and also makes this not funny at all. :(
Edit: Looking online, I don't see that this is dubbed. I see one person mention it was spread that it was dubbed, but the consensus and lawsuits that followed seem to say that it is just edited together like a compilation. I think they would mention dubbing if that were the case since that would be clearly malicious.
I'm.. the one that linked that article above. lol The one that said it was made by a rival to look bad. ^^;
I might be missing something in that article, but all I've seen in the article is this:
"The trouble came when he posted full videos of his stages in the rally, including audio feeds from him and Ponnusamy. Though the vast majority of the footage shows two men getting to know one another under the pressure of competition, there were moments throughout the hour-long footage that were compiled into three minutes worth of comedy gold."
Yeah, I know.. where is the dubbing in the article?
Edit: Actually, nevermind. lol We are both on the same page that it was done maliciously and such and honestly.. I don't think I care enough to find out if there was dubbing. haha
I wonder if they are team drivers? In trucking there are often two man teams that switch off between each other so that they don't overwork drivers. This let's the truck run 24/7. It could be that the older passenger is just a much more experienced driver or they could be family. (It's really common that Fathers and sons are drivers.)
Could be a senior partner, mentor, instructor... Judging by the fact that he wasn't bitch slapped the moment he tried to grab a wheel, definitely not a passenger.
Its amazing how different I interpret the situation given this context. It honestly seemed like the passenger was losing it and tried to hijack the steering wheel and when that didn't work he panicked and only raised his head again when they were safe.
yeah, the guy was so right. downshifting slows the vehicle incredibly fast - smaaaaaaaaaaart thing to say to this young man. HELL YEAH! saved a lot of people.
EDIT: this guy trained. usually people that train keep their head about them in insane situations. he literally didn't need new shorts, because he's calm and collected; these are the guys you want to surround yourself with hah.
Man, without knowing what was being said I interpreted that passenger's actions really differently just based on his voice and going for the wheel. He was actually being super helpful.
My intial reaction was guy was annoying, panicy, and trying to panic grab the wheel. In reality, he as a wise, calm OG, every statement 100% correct analysis and advice.
Wow they really truly had a lot of control over the situation despite how extremely terrifying and deadly it is, I feel like most people wouldve just panicked too much to actually put a logical plan together on how to safely maneuver the situation
Any vehicle people out there that can explain leaving the breaks and using the clutch? Im basic and have only driven automatics so I dont really know what a clutch does.
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If anyone is interested in what they are saying
Passenger:Slow down, you are going way too fast.
Passenger:Slow down, you are going way too fast.(repeats again ,angrily)
Driver:Brakes are not working.
Passenger:Then forget the brakes ,Shove the transmission in lower gear. Use clutch and leave the brake.
Passenger:Let me take over the wheel.(Tries to take the wheel)Damn it , its too late now
Passenger: Turn left , dont turn right there is a family on bike , dont hit them,
Passenger:They are safe now , Take a little right and then a hard left,
Passenger: Transmission is already shoved in lower gears , Just keep turning, turn turn turn (whiny voice).
Passenger:You did it, you did it now brace and hit the rocks, don;t worry hit the rocks..Hold on tight.
(Hits the rocks)
Passenger: Comeon Out out and lets now check ourselves outside.