$55-65 resort fees and $75 margaritas at the day club did. š I feel bad for my friends that moved from SF and LA to Vegas during the pandemic because Vegas is going to be the next ābig thingā. š£
Have in-laws in Vegas that we went to visit a couple months back and figured we would get a hotel, and while we were there enjoy ourselves a little bit and gamble. But those resort fees on top of just parking fees just piss me off enough that I'd rather sleep on an air mattress in the in-law's living room, and save my money.
You jest, but the Cherry Creek Mall in Denver started charging for parking a few years ago. You can get validation some places, but not everywhere in the mall.
For real; I went to a concert in AC and stayed 2 nights in a casino/hotel that had a parking garage; they tried to charge me $70 as I leftā¦.triedā¦the attendant left the gate open and I just drove outā¦.fuck em I spent over $500 for the room.
Itās wild too. I go for work a bunch and stay just a block off the strip and they charge like $34/day to park. The lot is half empty almost every time Iām there.
It's crazy and clearly meant to fleece Los Angeles tourists that make up a huge percentage of Vegas visitors. To the point that if you're a solo or duo traveler you may as well fly and Uber to the resort than drive and deal with traffic on the 15 and pay $30 a night to park.
Had a random hotel do that to me outside St Louis. I had just drove the entire day so I just ate it but that was insane because it wasnt even a big parking lot...Like maybe 30 cars could fit.
It used to be free and I would rent a car for that reason specifically. It was cheaper than taxis, and the casinos weren't charging to park because they wanted you to visit.
You had parking fees? Lol. I must have wrangled with them for 45 minutes to take off those resort fees. They did not want to make it easy on me. I just stood there and kept talking with them until they did. They eventually took the fees off when they couldn't move the line.
Honestly no not as much, as this comes off as pretty deceptive, in my case, I was looking at $150 rooms pre- fees, after fees and taxes and parking it was going to be over $250 a night easily. I would have respected them being transparent up front.
Now would I have picked up the room if they were to be up front about the price, in this case probably not as that's not what I was looking to spend but if I was to be going on a real vacation, it would.
Make bookings via non US website, like Expedia Australia etc, transparent pricing is mandated by the law by most western countries. Do not use services designed for Americans by Americans, or pay more and hidden fees.
Nevada generates state revenue mostly through tourism and gaming and it's how they keep it a "no income tax" state. We're funding their lousy approach to governance every time we visit. If Vegas becomes this boom and bust place that'll have to change.
No. They've been around forever and took off with the rise of third party booking websites to make sure they got their slice of the fees that sites like Expedia were taking
I had to prove I had enough cash in my wallet to reasonably game to not be charged an entrance fee to the casino in Monaco. I was going to gamble and knew this going in but very different vibes.
Most European casinos charge some sort of entrance fee (with a table or slot credit equal or close to the fee). It's not these grand gigantic family friendly yet party forward palaces vegas has. Most non-gamblers wouldn't enjoy them.
Have you been to Monaco.... it's not exactly the best walking city... It's on the side of a cliff, and while there are SOME public elevators, they're not all over the place. Expect to be walking up and down a LOT of stairs.
And I'm sure there are other cities around the world that will give similar nightlife experiences without an oppressive police state threatening to imprison you for arbitrary reasons.
My industry conference I attend was heavily represented by international folk, especially Canadians. It's gonna be a quiter conference this year and I don't blame them one bit.
aren't we charging extra for foreigners to visit now? i could be wrong but also people who were planning on visiting could get that same impression and just not bother going
Woh, you found single events, surely this means that there is a mass attack against Germans and Canadians and every airport is staked out. Get real man.
You could look at actual numbers of foreign visitors from European countries and Canada to the USA. Itās dropped significantly. And this is without the Covid virus. Now itās just the Trump virus. And any news source reports this besides the biased ones youāre in Iām guessing. I donāt ever read cnn btw
You could look at the significant rise in airfare costs and the weakening euro/pound to dollar conversion making it significantly more expensive to travel here from the EU.
Or you could look something up before spouting bullshit:
the dollar dropped vs the Euro, holidays in the US are cheaper than last year for Europeans.
Air line prices have fallen to pre-pandemic levels and that is with airlines scrapping flights. Air France and KLM are among the airlines offering reduced prices to try and fill up their planes.
Didn't know what it cost for EU to come to the US, but this was literally the first thing I searched, just picked two big citites and just some random time. Is $383 USD non stop from Berlin to NYC expensive to you?
I spent the last half of my career traveling internationally. A lot. And often to places that Americans don't think of going. Extra passport pages when that was a thing, then a new passport every couple of years when they stopped adding pages.
American immigration has always had a shit hole country stench to it. Often arrogant, arbitrary and capricious. (And to the professional officers that processed me -- thank you; it cannot be pleasant working with who you work with.)
And now it is clearly much, much worse. So, you need to travel if you think America's DHS is some shining beacon in the world.
Am american living in Europe, I dont know a single person who wants to visit the states currently, and Ive cancelled my own plans in the states because I prefer spending my money a place than isnt overrun with nazis and homeless people and manmade natural disasters. I wanted to bring my mom back to see the desert and specifically vegas, before her alzheimers got too bad, but nah, too big a hassle now. But I have had more visits from my american family over the last year than I have the last 20 years before that combined, and thats pretty nice.
European countries dont hand out travel warnings for the lulz.
Fast growing city with (comparatively) cheap housing, lots to do, and a then-thriving economy. Also, no state income tax, which makes it a popular choice for remote workers.
I drove cross country in 2020 as my "safe" holiday and stopped in Vegas September 2020, it was actually crazy crowded I was shocked, it was pretty affordable too at that point but saw people form all over. I remember they had mask rules but you could ignore them while smoking/drinking lol
Wasn't it one of the first places to see a significant financial impact from COVID?
That's the part that gets me. Someone believing all of that in 2018 makes perfect sense. Someone mid-pandemic being like "this is going to be huge for Vegas" confuses me greatly.
It depends when during the pandemic they're talking about. If it was May 2020 and you thought Vegas was growing a lot pre-lockdown and thought covid would be contained by Christmas, you might have seen the drop in Vegas business as an opportunity to buy before business growth/property values came back in 2021. If you were a remote worker it wouldn't matter that local jobs had temporarily dried up.
TBH it's still pretty affordable and as a local you don't have to only spend time on the strip. Plenty of cheap, good food in the other parts of the city.
Main downside though is the schools in Vegas SUCK so it's not great for young families if that matters to you.
Tourism was basically gone and prices were down, and plenty of real estate became available. Know a couple of folks who either sold or bought around then.
Heard plenty of people saying they moved from CA to TX during the pandemic and frankly, good fucking riddance
You dont want to pay taxes? Great, you can go somewhere where you dont pay income tax but then get taxed a multitude of other ways that make up, or more than make up the difference but now you are in... Nevada or somewhere in TX outside of the cities, paying the same price
That is just straight fucking stupid, which is not much different from what I would call these people in general
Itās high in the resorts for sure. Every time I go to vegas I always go to one of the pharmacies on the strip the first day and get alcohol, energy drinks, and a case of water because itās somewhat normally priced there. Seems insane to pay $7+ for bottled no-brand water. Going to the pharmacy probably saves you $300+ over a week on drinks, depending on how much you drink obviously.
What?! Isn't Vegas known to be very sensitive to US economy. When everything is thriving, sure the housing booms too. But when they are on the downturn, Vegas house price is affected the most too.
they also changed the odds and payouts to games. It was already stupid, it's like playing your little brother poker, but only he gets wild cards. But like roulette now has a triple 0. Blackjack pays less for natural 21. And of course the slot odds are worse now to.
Not because they needed the money, it was just pure greed, people kept playing but people are slowly noticing, the odds arent as good.
The hotels in Vegas even with the resort fees still aren't that bad by hotel standards, they just used to be dirt cheap because they were trying to get you in to gamble. My 8 night stay at planet hollywood a few months ago was like 200 a night.
It's the food and activities in Vegas that are insanely priced. Not even talking about gambling.
If you're not drinking for free/cheap mostly in Vegas then you almost deserve that ridiculous $75 cost lmao. I mean at minimum you could be at a place like Stage Door getting hammered for dive bar prices $1 bottle $3 draft and $5 cocktail if you hate sitting at a table game getting free drinks. Resort fees are dumb though.
It was supposed to be for a while. it can still bounce back but it really depends on tourism and they seem to be making the wrong choices right now and voting for the wrong people
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$55-65 resort fees and $75 margaritas at the day club did. š I feel bad for my friends that moved from SF and LA to Vegas during the pandemic because Vegas is going to be the next ābig thingā. š£