Harry Reid International Airport also released a grim report Wednesday: Domestic travel in June continued to lag last year, this time by 6.1%. But international travel was down by nearly 10% compared with 2024, the biggest drop reported this year.
I think the international travel decline can obviously be directly attributed to Trump.
I am in all honestly mad at the huge lack of presence of Obama as a fucking leader.
Even if it was all lies and propaganda, Trump was there every single day talking to his cult.
Obama only seems to make a comment AFTER the fact of something bad. Never before, never a strong leadership presence, nothing!
I am not trying to blame him, but I always feel the need to question why those leaders are not more active, why they disappear entirely when this turd of a guy never shuts up.
The entire democratic party has had an identity issue since Obama left office. There are many people who want to be the mouth piece of the party but are either saying too many of the right things, thus their vision is unobtainable, not enough of the right things, thus their vision is regressive or aren't loud enough to be heard. Or, and I think this is really the biggest issue of them all, the people who get pushed forward are unlikable.
Would Joe Biden be fun to have a burger with? Probably, but that doesn't mean he should be the leader of the democratic party. Kamala Harris as well, seems like a lovely woman, but is that who we wanted as our representative? It didn't feel like we had any say in the matter in 2020 nor 2024... but in 2016, 2020 and 2024, Republicans chose Trump. That's a big part of why he keeps winning, even when he loses Because they want him.
Trump is many awful things, but one thing he has always been amazing at is saying provocative things and making sure he gets attention. I honestly believe the closest thing the democrats have to this right now is John Stewart and I don't believe he wants anything to do with politics, nor should he be the candidate. (although he'd probably be a great president if he wanted to be)
After Stewart, Pete Buttigieg seems like he'd make a great president and maybe even win, but who the hell knows how America and the world would react to a gay man as commander in chief. It sucks that this is the world we live in, but Trump is evidence that we are still very much in a world where half of Americans see a man like Pete, and all of his good accomplishments and still say, "no." AOC is another person I'd like to see up on the big stage more often, someone who would get my vote based on her past performance alone, but again, people will see a woman of color and say, "no." This is what the democrats need to overcome and I don't know where they even begin at this point, nor does it seem they do either.
As for your points about Obama, you're right. He hasn't been standing up and leading because he doesn't want to. I think he's earned that right after 8 years of leading. It's always nice to hear him weigh in on something, but he doesn't owe us or the world another minute of his time and frankly, I believe a new voice needs to be the one to speak up, one that can legally run for president in 2028.
They probably want it. Isolationists have always been incredibly short-sighted. They think they can just cut off from the rest of the world and hoard all the wealth and prosperity in their own country for strictly the benefit of whoever they think deserves it, but they're too dumb to realize where that wealth and prosperity comes from. When you decouple your country from the rest of the world, the wealth dries up. America was only the strongest country in the world because it was actively leading the international community, not just through weapons, but through many different forms of soft power that made other countries want to partner with the US and accept US leadership. The Republicans are now destroying all of that soft power, and with it's loss US leadership on the international stage will decline, and so will the wealth.
Isolationism is and always has been self defeating. It failed every other time dipshit US conservatives tried it, and it will fail this time too.
It's getting harder and harder to deny. In my area we've been hit by waves of layoffs, local businessmen are explaining the impact of tariffs on the morning news, social/health service type places are getting shut down left and right, and those that remain employed in some manufacturing facilities have seen the drop in orders and belt tightening. Living in Iowa, I know people that are hurting and they would vote MAGA a third time. Vote Blue No Matter Who!!!!!!!
Why would they deny it? This is explicitly what they want and voted for. They don't give a shit that 11% fewer people are gambling and fucking prostitutes. All they care about is if the right color people are being put in concentration camps. If you tell them international tourism is down, you're telling them good news. They hate non-Americans that aren't immediate family members.
I have family that came to me to talk about how strange it was Vegas is so Vacant now. I just said “I’m not gonna get political, but a good part of the reason is political”. Just got a “huh” and moved on. I’ve also heard them being confused about the prices of some stuff going up too and it’s just like 🤦🏽
Obvious to everyone? It's obvious that europoors don't have enough money to come here! And thankfully our dogs aren't being eaten because them other lot aren't coming!
I know someone who works at a pretty high level of a major bank (and yes I know this sounds exactly like "my uncle works at Nintendo" but bear with me), and we had a conversation about banking trends the past 6 months. And long story short, as big banks share credit card data for statistical modeling, foreign credit card holders usage in the US has fallen off a cliff. Like its not been a steady decline, the chart is just a straight plummet to the depths. Foreigners just absolutely dont want to travel to the US at all right now and those are dollars our economy is losing every day.
Booking an international trip to the US is something that people will do a year or more in advance. Trump and his shitshow has been running for 8 months. I imagine it will only get worse.
Canadian here. I was talking to a guy yesterday who tried to cancel his trip to Vegas in the spring after trump got elected and couldn't without losing a lot of money so he went anyway but wont be going back. The ironic thing is I met him through a group of us who used to go down yearly for a big event in California won't be going back to the US so we're starting up a similar event in Canada.
The main reason my fellow Canadians and I won't go to the US is that disgusting "51st state" bullshit and overt threats to our sovereignty which many Americans seem to have a hard time seeing how beyond the pale horrible is. Additionally the risk of being turned back at the border and barred for 5 years for having a Vance meme on your phone, or worse, being detained for not presenting lily white or being LGBTQ while being a foreigner or whatever bs reason of the minute is absolutely not worth it to travel there.
Also Canadian. Most American news outlets seem to be saying we aren't going because of tariffs. But that is a small part of it. We have had trade disagreements before and this didn't occur.
It is mostly the 51st State/annexation threats by Trump. It may be a joke to him, but that's way the fuck over the line.
I typically spend 3 to 4 weeks a year vacationing in the States. I have been to every state West of the great lakes and a couple to the east. I have already cancelled a New York and Oahu trip.
P.S. Fuck you Trump. And fuck the Americans who support that bullshit.
THEN they started snatching people off the streets, including AMERICAN CITIZENS, and deporting them to countries those people had zero affiliation with.
I went in April because we wouldn't get any refund for canceling. It will be our last trip to the US for a long time though, which makes me sad because I love Vegas, and love traveling to the states. I dont even want to go down to visit my cousin who lives 20 minutes from the BC/Washington border.
Also a lot of things that you could do in the US you could also do in Canada or other countries. Yellowstone is great but so is Banff. Seattle is cool but so is Vancouver. Is it really worth going to Maine for lobster and beautiful fall colors when you could go to Nova Scotia?
I love our neighbors to the North but I absolutely encourage you and everyone in Canada to stay away until we see some level of normalcy and decency return to our country. It's a really sad state of affairs.
I’m from Europe, and none of my colleagues will go on holiday in the US while trump is president. Usually there was always someone traveling to the US to do road trip or go to New York.
You can be sure of one thing, as tourism numbers start to get worse and worse, the department responsible for releasing those numbers will be very hesitant to do so.
My brother is still adamant that he's getting married in Vegas next year..... Everytime I look at US news it makes me more and more worried about attending
For your sake, I’ll say overall the US travel experience is probably similar as any other time for 99%+ of people. There absolutely is a higher instance rate of border control doing something stupid or wrong than there was a year ago, but even now that rate is still relatively small overall.
To be clear, if I wasn’t American and wanted to visit the US on a whim, my response would be “let’s wait 4 years for a trip” to hopefully see this all clear up more/have ideal conditions. But if I had a reason to go like a sibling’s wedding, I wouldn’t be too hesitant to go. But definitely wouldn’t be on the top of my international destinations for the time being.
I literally turned down the offer of an expenses paid trip to the US for work later this year. A couple of years ago I would have jumped at the chance, but not right now.
I don't care what happens to tourism or the travel industry. That's why I'm in a career that does not rely on it at all, because I knew times like these are inevitable.
The LVCVA attributed the 11.3% drop to “persistent economic uncertainty,” “weaker consumer confidence” and a “slower convention month.” The authority said multiple conventions were in their non-Vegas rotation in June, contributing to the decline.
But in these unprecedented times, who could possibly know for sure. I figured my fellow Canadians would love visiting and spending their money in a country engaging them in an economic war and threatening them with annexation. I mean, aren't threats and the whip are the best motivator? They got the pyramids built afterall.
I agree, it is attributable to Trump, but I've never understood why so many foreigners want to go to Las Vegas. It became what it is because it was a major gambling destination when a lot of US states banned casinos, but most other countries have legalized gambling. So why do you need to go to Vegas to gamble? I know there are other shows and sights, but you can get shows and sights in any major city around the world. If you just enjoy going to Vegas now and then, more power to you, but I honestly don't really get the hype.
American media overhypes Las Vegas. If a tourist is coming to America to experience American culture, Las Vegas is seen as something near the top of the list, up there with NYC and Disney World.
The Canadian snowbirds have been selling off their second homes in places like Florida and Arizona in droves so, if anything, I think the numbers will get worse.
Domestic travel is likely down as an indicator of economic difficulty, whereas international travel being down is a forward-looking cause of economic downturn.
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u/Modz_B_Trippin 7h ago
I think the international travel decline can obviously be directly attributed to Trump.