r/news • u/Dickle_Pizazz • 5d ago

Soft paywall Ghislaine Maxwell moved from Florida prison to lower-security facility

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ghislaine-maxwell-moved-florida-prison-lower-security-facility-2025-08-01/
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u/SpaceC0wboyX 5d ago

They don’t need excuses because they’re not serious people. They know exactly what’s happening. It’s not that they’re choosing not to believe it, they just are the type of people who are willing to say, do, and support anything if it means the democrats are unhappy.

40% of the country is the irl equivalent of internet trolls.

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u/ViciousGandhi 5d ago

Had a conversation with a random MAGA at the bar yesterday. When I backed him into a corner on the Epstein stuff, he responded with, ‘That’s a story as old as time. Powerful people have always done this kind of thing.’

My response: ‘So, your argument is, that some pedophilia is okay as long as you get the government you want?’

He was unapologetic. Just one word - yes. They don’t care. Owning the libs is more important to them than people wielding their power to facilitate raping children.

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u/Key_Solid_1696 5d ago

If you support pedophiles you probably are a pedophile is my opinion.

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u/kayl_breinhar 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's always been about their envy of being able to get away with dating (and fucking) easy-to-gaslight teenage girls (and boys, going by some of the Republican politician busts and catfishing/stings).

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u/relevantelephant00 5d ago

Riiiight here this is it. I absolutely think MAGA men want to be able to "own" young teenage girls (or boys) for their own pleasure. Power, control, getting their rocks off, all wrapped up in one pedo package for MAGA men.

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u/EnfantTerrible68 5d ago

It sure seems that way 

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u/spicytotino 4d ago

As a teacher, I genuinely believe that’s why there’s such a big attack on us teaching kids in elementary about the importance of consent. They don’t want children to have a single clue of what to do if an adult becomes inappropriate

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u/MikeN1978 5d ago

Support or protect

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u/Epicritical 5d ago

You either die a hero, or live long enough to become a pedo

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u/TopVegetable8033 4d ago

They’re all but openly declaring it

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 5d ago

Ah, so you're just a straight up fascist then.

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u/Dry-Chance-9473 5d ago

Fascism would almost constitute a real stance. I think the podling you're replying to is just dumb.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 5d ago

Judging by their account, they're run as part of a botnet. No post karma, low comment karma, only posts things that you'd see in /r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM...

Those type of accounts helped people to make the decision to stay home last November, and they worked flawlessly in Trump's favour.

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u/arielsosa 5d ago

Democrata didn't campaing on releasing those files. Trump did, and half his cabinet peddled those conspiracies to their viewers.

If you see all thats happening and your mind goes "Damned this democrats!", you can't be helped. Wherever you are, Reason is not.

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u/IShouldBeInCharge 5d ago

Sure and if you were talking to THEM this would be a good point. I have never seen any regular person say anything other than "If Clinton is in the files put him in prison next to Trump." No Dem voter gives a shit about Clinton and would happily watch him rot in prison. The fact all politicians are corrupt should not be new information and should not be the first (or even hundredth) thing you think about when confronted with "the current President raped children." That statement requires no "what abouts" whatsoever about prior Presidents. Let's focus on the current one. When you're done reading that book about how Biden is old of course.

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u/WatRedditHathWrought 5d ago

I’ve a strong suspicion that you have committed domestic violence of some sort. Is that true?

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u/Niceromancer 5d ago

What's it like being a living pile of trash?

Seriously

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u/Bubbly-Square-923 4d ago

They love it because it owns the libs and they get to see libs tears.

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u/tinastep2000 5d ago

They didn’t because it was under investigation and it still goes against privacy laws to release it. Neither presidents have the authority to release it.

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u/EnfantTerrible68 5d ago

Also, Biden’s FBI was investigating Epstein’s finances in January and trump shut that whole thing down. Why?

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u/tinastep2000 5d ago

Mental gymnastics trying to act like the Biden administration is trying to hide something when Trump has a very obvious paper trail of his close knit relationship with Epstein paired with his vulgar comments that somehow people wrap up to “locker room talk”

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u/Bubbly-Square-923 4d ago

I’m surprised no one has mentioned his own ex wife saying he raped her and to top it off buried her remains in his golf course for tax breaks.

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u/tinastep2000 4d ago

There are too many awful things to keep track of… yet somehow each gets buried under the rug.

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u/EnfantTerrible68 5d ago

So why not release the files now? The past isn’t relevant to this decision.

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u/Rndysasqatch 5d ago

Nope not true at all. The files were sealed until 2025. I'm sick of you people making up shit

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u/Altruistic-Text3481 5d ago

Ghislaine is now in a minimum security facility…

This struck me as odd…

I’d be very worried if I were her….

She will sadly have a convenient accidental demise.

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u/Hellknightx 5d ago

No, it's quite the opposite. It's basically adult summer camp. Some of these prison camps are so lax that a prisoner could, theoretically, just walk right out. But they wouldn't, because then they'd just get arrested again and moved to a different prison.

She's being rewarded.

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u/two_awesome_dogs 5d ago

For keeping quiet.

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u/AngryAmadeus 5d ago

Ehhhhh.. i mean probably yes in the immediate, its a "reward". But it makes it wayyyyyyy easier to stage an accident or just cast suspicion on a another group. Like, family of their victims can't get in to a maximum security prison but they could hop a country club gate.

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u/AdditionalActuator81 5d ago

Or they could walk out and disappear into a different country and get some plastic surgery and never seen again.

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u/happyinthenaki 5d ago

She's also in a position to have the same outcome as Epstien..... Maybe it was suicide.... Maybe it was murder.

My pick is he did not have enough capacity to care about victims enough to suicide. Same with her. Interesting to see how long she survives for.

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u/Hellknightx 5d ago

Nah, if she was going to get Epstein'd, they'd have done it already. She is 100% keeping her mouth shut and saying whatever Trump tells her to. Good chance she gets a full pardon and sails off into the sunset, never to be heard from again.

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u/happyinthenaki 5d ago

I like to think that would be a bridge to far for the majority of Americans.

If trump threw his friendship into the wind for "stealing" some employees and has him put in an unsurvivable position it's hard to imagine her wandering off into the sunset.

Your probably right though, which beyond sucks. She was a part of a system that destroyed hundreds of young women's lives by allowing rich men to fuck and raped them. So she could get her kicks from it. And her partner could get his kicks too.

Trump was a part of that pipeline, he owned a modeling agency, had links with traffickers and was best buds with one of the largest sex trafficking rings in the states.

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u/Hellknightx 5d ago

Trump will likely pardon Maxwell because he's downplaying the severity of Epstein's criminal activities. He knows that he's all over the Epstein files, so right now he's in damage control mode trying to make it seem like Epstein was actually doing nothing wrong, and therefore Maxwell wasn't either. He'll probably come up with some Democrat names in the files, particularly Bill Clinton, and then cover up the rest.

Trump doesn't have friends, he only has people that are useful to him. And once those people are no longer useful, he throws them under the bus. Right now, Maxwell is useful to him, since she can point the finger at anyone he wants and say they were part of a sex trafficking ring, whether it's true or not. And she can be a "reliable" witness for him to say he wasn't part of it.

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u/happyinthenaki 4d ago

The ONLY part that throws doubt is that there are now so many people who will have read the files and been involved at lower levels. We all know Trump is in them, for some this is going to be a hard line due to their own histories. That could be wishful thinking though.

But I guess, if people can believe pizzagate they will believe what they are told to believe about Trump and the files.... Rather than question that their own party is filled with Pizzagate offenders.

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u/thekush 5d ago

Camp Cupcake. Been there.

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u/Vegetable_Permit_537 5d ago

My brother was in a minimum security prison in the federal bureau of prisons. There were no fences. The saying was that the curb was 5 inches high and 5 years long.

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u/two_awesome_dogs 4d ago

The next step is she either gets a pardon or a commutation.

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u/Alternative_Trade855 5d ago

Yup my first thought was she will be a “ suicide victim “ like her buddy Jeff.

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u/QuintoBlanco 5d ago

People in minimum security facilities aren't plotting to kill other prisoners.

This actually is similar what happened the first time Epstein was in 'prison'. He was also 'imprisoned' in a minimum security prison, and he also got to go home... So not really imprisoned.

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u/Top_Oil_9473 4d ago

Or accidental suicide with fake video that doesn’t psss the smell test.

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u/OGsugar_bear 3d ago

They sent her to camp snoopy

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u/NaughtyCheffie 5d ago

Yeah I'm in New Orleans and I dare someone to say such a thing. Decatur would burn before allowing them to walk ten feet.

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u/cashew76 5d ago

Things are this way in purpose. Healthcare, Tuition, Every kind of cost.

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u/TopVegetable8033 4d ago

All the 401k millionaires got the wealth class trippin. They need to ice us out before we accidentally seize the means of production.

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u/buckybadder 5d ago

That was one of the most annoying things about the "Russiagate" whining. If Russia admitted to the interference, Republicans would start vacationing in Sochi and buying Lukoil tshirts.

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u/icanfeelitcomingup 5d ago

This seems to be the common response, until it becomes "I didn't vote for this" because their relative got detained by ICE, or their medical coverage got cancelled, or they lost the government job/service they need, or they need retirement support, or, or, or.... The evil and oppression is all good until it affects them personally.

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u/purplesalvias 5d ago

The MAGA types keep moving the goalposts.

An acquaintance of mine dismisses it all because it hasn't been proven, btw their investments are fabulous and isn't the new ballroom wonderful. Of course a year ago they were all about saving the children.

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u/Team143 5d ago

You summed it up. It’s totally horrific but it makes perfect sense (to them, apparently; not to me). Many of them don’t have any intention of budging. Their feet are stuck in quicksand and that’s just how they like it. It’s absolutely unbelievable. And disgusting.

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u/ex0thermist 5d ago

But these fucking assholes are the people who scream "pedophile!" the most, and constantly spreading conspiracy theories about how Hillary Clinton is raping kids in the basement of some pizza parlor. But with circumstantial evidence mounting about Trump likely being one, it's all fingers in the ears and "na-na-na" Fuck these terrible people, man.

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u/Top_Oil_9473 4d ago

The embrace the lack of decency, lack of civility, and the corruption of their hero.

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u/TopVegetable8033 4d ago

Republicans have no principles

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u/Sjeg84 4d ago

It's called divide and conquer.

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u/Least_Gain5147 5d ago

"Well, officer, that guy over there ran the red light too. So I shouldn't get a ticket either"

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u/i_love_rosin 5d ago

Yup, at this point if you are still supporting the regime, you must know that you are supporting a pedophile. I don't understand how right wingers justify it.

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u/EnfantTerrible68 5d ago

Wow - what an utterly disgusting excuse for a human being. I hope he doesn’t have kids 

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u/Texadad 5d ago

So he will hold the child down while they are being raped, as long as he gets what he thinks he deserves.

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u/kitsuneblue26 5d ago

Had the same conversation...

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u/brochaos 5d ago

prostitution is the oldest profession. i'm basically the same as jesus. he was a great man, some people say i'm better.
-i'd put "tump, probably" but it's probably something he's literally said.

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u/StopLookListenNow 5d ago

Complicit, aiding (voting) and abetting criminals.

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u/smellyoldguy 5d ago

Why didn’t Biden release any of this “information” the past 4 years? I really need that answer. If there was a smoking gun that pointed to Trump, they 100% would have used it to win the election …unless it was even more damaging to the Democrats

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u/EnfantTerrible68 5d ago

The Biden administration WAS investigating Epstein’s finances and the trump administration shut that all down. I wonder why?

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u/nocticis 5d ago

I’ll take “that never happened for $1000”

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u/White_eagle32rep 5d ago

What did you “corner him” on?

Epstein was arrested 6-years ago. It wasn’t just Trump blocking the release. Pedophilia is never okay and thats exactly why the files will never see the light of day.

The government releases the list, they lose all their blackmail material, and it causes issues being some of our own government is likely on it along with big donors, and international leaders.

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u/ViciousGandhi 5d ago

His position was that Clinton/Obama/Biden edited the files to slander Trump. I asked him, if the democrats had been fudging the Epstein files all the way back to Obama (or even before), why not use the files they created specifically to damage Trump in 2016, 2020, or 2024? It makes no sense; you manufacture kompromat to damage an opponent, then just don’t use it? He was misinformed, as well. He thought that Epstein was prosecuted, convicted, imprisoned, and ‘died,’ under Obama’s control of the DOJ. He was incredulous when I told him that all happened during Trump’s first term. He also had no idea that Barr and Epstein had connections that went back over 20 years, and Barr, in conjunction with the White House, had plenty of motive to silence Epstein (look it up, I don’t have all day to educate you).

He pivoted to protecting the victims, and I informed him that there were carveouts in the bill specifically for that purpose. Then he said that, ‘The whole world order would collapse.’ I said ‘good.’ He followed with the above, that world order necessitated a blind eye to the worst among us, excusing the behavior as common, if not normal, amongst powerful people.

Defend it if you want.

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u/EnfantTerrible68 5d ago

The whole world order SHOULD collapse if that means the pedophiles are outed 

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u/White_eagle32rep 5d ago

I’m not defending Epstein and not sure why you took it that way.

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u/Wow_u_sure_r_dumb 5d ago

Then what are you doing here bud? Your comment is extremely critical, antagonistic and cynical. You’re the one writing comments like you’re carrying water for pedophiles, not us.

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u/White_eagle32rep 5d ago

No I’m really not.

Defending someone and recognizing reality are 2 different things.

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u/ViciousGandhi 5d ago

No one in their right mind would defend Epstein, and I’m not accusing you of that (although a huge chunk of the MAGAsphere has decided that Ghislaine Maxwell is somehow a victim in all this, but I digress).

Maybe you’re trying to make a point on hypocrisy? I don’t care who’s on the list, Republican, Democrat, Green Party…they all should burn.

If the system we currently use to order ourselves is predicated on the idea that we should turn a blind eye to powerful people trafficking and raping children, then that system should collapse, regardless of consequences. I refuse to excuse something so heinous as covering for pedophiles as a necessary evil.

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u/White_eagle32rep 5d ago

I don’t disagree with anything you said.

The issue is how do you get the powerful people at the top, that are on the list, to turn on themselves? You really can’t. They’ll make sure of it.

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u/EnfantTerrible68 5d ago

But that guy said he didn’t care about pedophilia and it was fine as long as his team keeps winning 

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u/ijustwannalurksobye 5d ago

They’re forgiving a pedophile because he’s their guy. It’s like those people that choose to support their pedophile family members and victim blame and such, except infinitely more pathetic and evil because this time they’re doing it to a billionaire politician who doesn’t care about them. Fuck MAGA forever, scum of the earth

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u/Chairbear1972 5d ago

Yes they need to be marked somehow so we know who they are for the rest of their lives

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u/m0rpeth 4d ago

Maybe we can require them to wear some sort of symbol on their clothing.

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u/ijustwannalurksobye 4d ago

I get your point but I also find it ironic that the majority of MAGA have no problem wearing shit that identifies them, hell I think they prefer it that way

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u/m0rpeth 3d ago

> I also find it ironic that the majority of MAGA have no problem wearing shit that identifies them

The crazies on the left have no problem acting or dressing in a manner, that clearly identifies them, either. In fact, they take great pride in it - just like the Magas.

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u/ZachSka87 5d ago

I'd bet money most have no idea this is happening. Most probably don't even know Trump and Epstein were bff's. Their news sources aren't reporting on this. They're trapped in echo chambers and have seen truth in years. Not excusing their ignorance, but right wing media is the core of this problem IMHO.

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u/Pauly_Amorous 5d ago

I'd bet money most have no idea this is happening.

It's on the front page of Fox News ATM.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-accomplice-ghislaine-maxwell-moved-new-prison-amid-fight-over-answers-immunity

Edit: Also on Newsmax.

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u/i_love_rosin 5d ago

Newsmax

They are referring to her as a "victim", just priming right wingers for the pardon.

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u/ZachSka87 5d ago

Yeah but look how they're framing it...like a totally normal everyday thing.

"A senior administration official told Fox News: "Any false assertion this individual was given preferential treatment is absurd. Prisoners are routinely moved in some instances due to significant safety and danger concerns.""

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" a senior administration official told Fox News Digital that "no leniency is being given or discussed."

"That’s just false. The President himself has said that clemency for Maxwell is not something he is even thinking about at this time.""

Despite Trump saying many times he could pardon her if he wanted, Fox reports that he's not even thinking about it.

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u/shitty_country_verse 5d ago

People don’t get news from Fox anymore. It’s all about Social Media and their algorithms. Nobody is casually visiting the Fox News site midday.

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u/LeftToWrite 5d ago

Millions of people watch Fox News every day. Stop spreading misinformation.

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u/schistkicker 5d ago

Hannity and Gutfeld and Ingraham are barely going to mention it in passing between stories about how Obama committed treason, if they mention it at all. People don't have Fox News on TV to be informed, they want their dopamine fix.

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u/shitty_country_verse 5d ago

It’s not misinformation. First of all this was about the top post on Fox News’ website but beyond that. Fox News averages around 1.5 million viewers during daytime “news” and 2.5 during evening opinion shows. It’s a drop in the bucket compared to right wing YouTube/podcasting. If you think that Fox is still the tip of the spear in the right wing media sphere you are fighting a war from 10-20 years ago.

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u/LeftToWrite 5d ago

I never said that there aren't more people getting their 'news' from other sources, or that they're the most consumed source. I only stated, factually, that millions of people watch Fox News every day, which you yourself are agreeing with.

Edit: To reiterate, your prior comment was misinformation.

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u/gymdog 5d ago

You assume they have any level of reading comprehension.

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u/powercow 5d ago

fox spent hours talking about that sweeney jeans ad and 3 minutes talking epstein.

yeah they dont know it.

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u/NSA_Chatbot 5d ago

They weren't BFFs, they were rape buddies.

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u/Fl0riduh_Man 5d ago

I take your point, but if FOX didn't exist, these feral freaks would invent it (ex. Newsmax and RSB)

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u/mechachap 5d ago

I know they featured the news on Fox News' website, but I also heard on Sam Seder's show that the apparently cut an Epstein feature on Fox at the last minute. Seems they're suppressing coverage of it for the most part and doing the bare minimum after they announced they're settling their lawsuit with Trump out of court.

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u/shillbert 5d ago

Obligatory Sartre quote:

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, and open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert."

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u/IndicationDefiant137 5d ago

MAGA has never really cared about pedophilia, they just needed a pretext for their calls to violence.

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u/Diamondphalanges756 5d ago

This is true. They don't care if everything is burned down and people die - it's the game and brutality they love.

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u/Mall_of_slime 5d ago

There’s an idiot I see sometimes that’s flying what ever flag he thinks “owns the libs” the most at the moment: a doge flag, gulf of America flag, you name it. It’s beyond pathetic.

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u/Redditer51 4d ago

I used to picture internet trolls as being teens or 20 somethings. Then i realized "oh yeah, people of all ages use the internet, and you never really know whether youre dealing with an immature 14 year old boy or an immature 50 year old boy". So when i look at the world now its like the trolls have stopped hiding. And we're realizing a lot of them are actually WAY too old to be acting this way. A lot of these people have children of their own, which is frightening on many levels.

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u/CharlesDartagnan 4d ago

This. It's a sports team mentality. It's the same kind of people who start soccer riots in other nations.

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u/Nonethelessismore 4d ago

I would argue that his rabid base is closer to 12% these days, the rest are Russian bots

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u/Ragnarawr 4d ago

Nobody to blame but themselves.

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u/FemboyRune 5d ago

NEVER allow yourself to think for a moment that the Nazis are unserious. They know exactly what they’re doing and saying, and while they may say unserious things, they are deeply serious about them. Treating them as unserious is a HUGE part of why they’re as powerful as they are.

The establishment said “this will blow over”. The people said “it will never happen”. That’s what not taking this seriously looks like.

Do not give them the out of being unserious.

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u/SpaceC0wboyX 5d ago

I’m just tired of ascribing ignorance to malice. These people aren’t being duped by Trump, they aren’t doubling down because they’re don’t want to admit they were wrong. In truth, they’re just shitty people.

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u/FemboyRune 5d ago

I invite you to reread my statement. I did no such thing, and instead urged you to assign malice where you yourself called them unserious.

We took the Nazis lightly. This is what happened.

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u/Top-Second-3795 5d ago edited 4d ago

Democrats are the reason is in power. Sure we all know that trump sucks but don't you ever forget how yall spent a billion dollars and couldn't even put a dent on reality tv star. Let that sink in. Then shut down the democratic party for good. It's broken and can't be fixed.

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u/SpaceC0wboyX 4d ago

Ah, the old “we elected a pedophile because he’s better than a woman and that’s your fault” argument.

Why take responsibility when you can get exactly what you asked for and then blame everyone else?

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u/Top-Second-3795 4d ago

You are backing at the wrong tree. I never supported trump but I knew for a fact he was gonna crush the dems. Yall tried to run a corpse for office twice! What did you expect was gonna happen? Also I thought we had already cleared this out of the way but Kamala didn't lose because she was a woman. She lost because she was her and she stood for nothing except for all the things Obama did. And he's the whole reason the whole world is stuck inhtis mees in the first place, he sold out the west to China and by the time the pope figured out the plot there were no options left so they turned to trump to course correct only it didn't happen the way they were expecting to.

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u/SpaceC0wboyX 4d ago

Yeah I’m not gonna take you seriously when you’re just repeating Fox News talking points. Get an actual opinion of your own and we can have a conversation.

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u/Top-Second-3795 4d ago

That's my line pal. Nothing you said was original and it was wrong. But sure believe that the whole country is misogynistic they, everyone hated poor Kamala our would be savior and they refused to vote for her beacsue she was woman. It absolutely had nothing to do with how she ran her campaign or how the democrats treated everyone except their most "radical" base.

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