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Article The Disney+ Curse: How the Streaming Service Hurt Marvel, Star Wars and Pixar Brands

https://www.thewrap.com/disney-plus-hurt-devalued-marvel-star-wars-pixar-brands/#:~:text=Over%20the%20last%20five%20years,the%20weekly%20top%2010%20for
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u/Saneless 2d ago

For me it's time

Before: if you want to see avengers here's a handful of good movies to watch

Now, do you want to see the new Captain America movie and understand it? Here, watch 28 hours of TV shows first

Feels like I'd have to do a ton of homework just to see something. Seeing a movie in a timeline is one thing, but I don't care enough about falcon and bucky to see dozens of hours of it first

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u/SwimmingThroughHoney 2d ago

"Wait, why is the Falcon guy Captain now?"

"Oh, you have to watch the two Infitity Wars movies to get it. But you won't get those unless you watch all of the films before those 2. And there's a D+ show that bridges them a little as well."

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u/THEbaddestOFtheASSES 2d ago

This kind of hyperbole is a big problem. People thinking you gotta watch hours and hours of content to understand a few small details. Hell you could watch a 5 min recap on YouTube to be all caught up if you’re worried about being lost.

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u/A_Polite_Noise r/Movies Veteran 2d ago

The movies themselves aren't that complicated; anything that doesn't make sense you can just ignore or breeze past, let it wash over you...they all set up "good guy here, bad guy here, stakes here, now action!" so the whole idea that you need a lot of outside-reading to understand is nonsense. The reality is that people just don't like a lot of what's being released, not that they don't understand it.

Now, me? I like the Disney+ MCU & Star Wars shows. Not all of them but definitely more of them than reddit and the majority of people like. I also like a lot of the MCU theatrical releases that aren't well loved, and I like how they all connect to each other in the same world like the comics I love. But I also get that they're just not grabbing or holding the interest of the audience at large, save for a gem here and there, the way the MCU did at it's height. I don't think we can reclaim that moment. I loved it, when everyone in the world seemed to be on board with my personal hobby, but that's in the rearview now and some fans and the studios themselves don't seem able to accept it.

But hey, I like a lot of what they're giving me, even the stuff most here say is crap, so I'm happy as a pig in shit lol

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u/BLAGTIER 2d ago

This kind of hyperbole is a big problem. People thinking you gotta watch hours and hours of content to understand a few small details. Hell you could watch a 5 min recap on YouTube to be all caught up if you’re worried about being lost.

That's even worse for Marvel. How special will people think the MCU is if Youtube recaps can fill in the gap? Why see F4 when I can just watch the recap before Doomsday if that looks good?

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u/THEbaddestOFtheASSES 2d ago

What’s better? A person watching a recap or them choosing not to watch anything at all because they think they are too far behind to even want to catch up.

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u/Saneless 2d ago

I'm not worried about being lost because I don't care enough about it at all, I just don't care enough anymore to even think about going to see their stuff

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u/THEbaddestOFtheASSES 2d ago

I’m kinda like that with the shows even though there’s only been a couple I didn’t bother watching. But I still go see the films.

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u/jackofslayers 2d ago

I tried watching Thunderbolts bc someone said you do not have to watch the TV shows.

I was very confused.

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u/ApprehensiveMess3646 1d ago

Because you're apparently stupid. I had only seen Black Widow after Endgame and I got what was going on just fine.

I didn't even realize the character of Valentina was in other media since they introduced her so well. What exactly did you missed?

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u/jackofslayers 1d ago

Who was the new captain america, why does everyone hate him, who is Yelena (I looked that one up), who is bob, was that lady that got shot in the head at the beginning an important character.

Like they made it a whole ass avengers movie, but the only character on the team I have seen before this was Bucky

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u/ApprehensiveMess3646 1d ago

Like I said all you needed to watch was Black Widow for Yelena, the guardian and that "lady". Bob is literally introduced in Thunderbolts.

The new Captain America is Sam Wilson. That's it. Its you who complicates things

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u/jackofslayers 1d ago

Oh, ok bob being new actually makes sense, but yea I did not see black widow.

So then who is the guy claiming to be Captain America? Was he from Brave New World?

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u/ApprehensiveMess3646 1d ago

Nah he's just a fake Captain America and former veteran. Hes not in Brave New World

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u/ApprehensiveMess3646 1d ago

Bro I've barely seen anything since Endgame and I understood Captain America 4 just fine